Patron Power question


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Originally Posted by _Pine_ View Post
Can some one clue me into why Sharks are more used in PvP than Soul Storm?

Sharks:
Rech: 32
Cast: 1.87
Damage: 168.6

Soul Storm:
Rech: 32
Cast: 2.17
Damage: 180.5

For a regen. I would have to say having Shadow meld has really helped me live longer in PvP.
Well, for starters, you're looking at the wrong power. You're looking at Spirit Shark Jaws, which is the hold at level 44. You should be looking at Spirit Shark, which is the blast at level 41.

Spirit Shark, base level 50 damage: 154.56 + 4 ticks of 5.56 (over 3.2 sec). Critical for 154.56 from hidden. 6 second recharge. Total damage of 309.12 + 22.24 DoT (over 3.2 sec).

Soul Storm, base level 50 damage: 11 ticks of 16.41 damage (over 10 sec). No critical. Total damage of 180.46.

Which one of these would you use when you were trying to kill someone in a hurry?

Also, Spirit Shark opens up Hibernate - not that this is much of an advantage, since you need Stealth and probably want Invisibility anyway (just because it doesn't suppress when you're hit).


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So, Shark Jaws and Soul storm does not Crit like other DoTs do when you use it from hide?

I'm just confused why some Patron Powers will crit from hide, while others don't.

I know on my DM/Nin Midnight Grasp's DoT is part of the Crit.



Your character does not have capped defense. Depending on your AT the cap is between 175% - 225%. Your defense is not teal in the combat window, it can go higher. STOP SAYING IT IS CAPPED! The correct term is Soft Cap.
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Originally Posted by _Pine_ View Post
So, Shark Jaws and Soul storm does not Crit like other DoTs do when you use it from hide?

I'm just confused why some Patron Powers will crit from hide, while others don't.

I know on my DM/Nin Midnight Grasp's DoT is part of the Crit.
That's one I can't answer for you, since I'd just be guessing. I just wanted to point out that you were looking at the wrong power when you were comparing the holds for PvP stats.

For comparison's sake, the base numbers for a Psi Blaster's attacks in PvP are:
Psi Dart: 96.92
TK Blast: 115.39
Mental Blast: 145.31
Will Domination: 151.54

A single Spirit Shark critical will hit harder than both Will Domination and Mental Blast - not accounting for procs (which the blaster will have an advantage on).


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Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison View Post
I'm going to throw my questions into this thread, since it pertains to the same topic.

I've never gotten a villain high enough to have a patron pet (I have a mastermind, but ... yeah), so I don't know anything about them.

How good are they? Which one generally the best? What is each one good at?

It looks to me that brutes/VEATs get the "minion," stalkers/corruptors get the "LT," and dominators get the "boss." Is that right? Do the health points for the pets scale accordingly?
I have the night widow on my claw/da stalker and the blood widow on my night widow. The night widow pet given to stalkers rock and can hold her own. You gotta watch the blood widows back because if you turn around for one second, she will be dead. Kinda sad, really.


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So, does Spirt Shark Jaws Crit? How about Soul Storm.



Your character does not have capped defense. Depending on your AT the cap is between 175% - 225%. Your defense is not teal in the combat window, it can go higher. STOP SAYING IT IS CAPPED! The correct term is Soft Cap.
I enjoy playing in Mids. I specialize in Melee Characters, other AT's usually bore me.

 

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Siolfir already answered that Soul Storm doesn't crit. No idea on the hold, but I'd be surprised if it did.


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Siolfir already answered that Soul Storm doesn't crit. No idea on the hold, but I'd be surprised if it did.
Spirit Shark Jaws doesn't, either. Which seems a bit silly, since the Corruptor versions of each can Scourge.


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on a side note, is one of the patron arcs more stalker friendly? for soloing?


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Mad, I did Ghost Widow Patron Arc solo with my stalker, Energy/Ninjitsu. Didn't have any problems, but my build was soft capped already when I tackled it.


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on a side note, is one of the patron arcs more stalker friendly? for soloing?
I say mako. The hero you fight to open the PPP is a push over. And you can pretty much walk right over to him and stab him in the face. Not to mention you are given one of the best temp powers in the game.

That mako is such a nice guy. Giving you tools that will make it easier for you to beat the snot of him for... well, you'll find out.


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If all you're looking to do is get the patron powers (i.e. finish the first arc), Mako's is certainly the easiest. Let the first mission time out (75 minutes), complete two relatively painless defeat-alls, drop the bomb mission, and then kill the EB in the final one. Takes maybe 45 minutes to an hour.


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ty all or your replies


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