I wanted Aid Self...but I couldnt seem to come close to cap on defense without maneuvers
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I'd say your power picks are ok, but you've gone awry in a few places, barring you being a multibillionaire.
the paneca proc and the pvp 3% def are very, very expensive. replace the pvp 3% def with the steadfast protection 3% def. maybe you have the pvp version already; in that case, work in the steadfast as well.
I would drop either SJ or SS, maneuvers, and another power (darkest night?), and pick up tough and weave. The extra s/l resist is good, and you'll get a few more points of def out of weave than you would maneuvers.
Figure out how to get 2 extra slots into punch, and kick that kinetic combat to the curb. Replace it with a mako's or ToD.
Otherwise, nothing i see as too glaring; any extra endo would probably be good. Edit: finding more places for lotg 7.5% recharges is a good way to crank your recharge up a few notches, too.
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Yes, it's not easy to soft cap defense without maneuvers nor weave. If you're ok to lose hasten, then you can take a look at the build below.|
Originally Posted by maxtsorm
I wanted Aid Self...but I couldnt seem to come close to cap on defense without maneuvers
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Villain Plan by Mids' Villain Designer 1.707
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Level 50 Science Brute
Primary Power Set: Super Strength
Secondary Power Set: Shield Defense
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Medicine
Ancillary Pool: Soul Mastery
Villain Profile:
Level 1: Punch -- Mako-Acc/Dmg(A), Mako-Dmg/EndRdx(9), Mako-Dmg/Rchg(11), Mako-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(11), Mako-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(13), Mako-Dam%(13)
Level 1: Deflection -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(3), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(3), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(5), ResDam-I(9), ResDam-I(46)
Level 2: Battle Agility -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(5), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(7), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(7)
Level 4: Haymaker -- Mako-Acc/Dmg(A), Mako-Dmg/EndRdx(15), Mako-Dmg/Rchg(15), Mako-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(17), Mako-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(17), Mako-Dam%(33)
Level 6: Combat Jumping -- DefBuff-I(A)
Level 8: Knockout Blow -- Mako-Acc/Dmg(A), Mako-Dmg/EndRdx(33), Mako-Dmg/Rchg(33), Mako-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(34), Mako-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(34), Mako-Dam%(34)
Level 10: Active Defense -- HO:Membr(A), HO:Membr(40)
Level 12: Swift -- Run-I(A)
Level 14: Health -- Mrcl-Rcvry+(A), Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(50)
Level 16: Boxing -- RzDz-Acc/Rchg(A), RzDz-EndRdx/Stun(40), RzDz-Acc/EndRdx(48), RzDz-Stun/Rng(48), RzDz-Acc/Stun/Rchg(50), RzDz-Immob%(50)
Level 18: Rage -- GSFC-ToHit(A), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg(19), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx(19), GSFC-Rchg/EndRdx(21), GSFC-ToHit/EndRdx(21), GSFC-Build%(23)
Level 20: Stamina -- P'Shift-End%(A), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc(23), P'Shift-EndMod(31), P'Shift-EndMod/Rchg(31)
Level 22: Phalanx Fighting -- DefBuff-I(A)
Level 24: Tough -- Aegis-ResDam(A), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx(25), Aegis-ResDam/Rchg(25), Aegis-EndRdx/Rchg(29), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(31)
Level 26: Weave -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(27), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(27), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(29)
Level 28: Grant Cover -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 30: True Grit -- S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), Heal-I(43), Heal-I(43)
Level 32: Foot Stomp -- Sciroc-Acc/Dmg(A), Sciroc-Dmg/EndRdx(37), Sciroc-Dmg/Rchg(39), Sciroc-Acc/Rchg(39), Sciroc-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(39), FrcFbk-Rchg/EndRdx(40)
Level 35: Shield Charge -- Oblit-Dmg(A), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(36), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(36), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(36), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(37), Oblit-%Dam(37)
Level 38: Stimulant -- Empty(A)
Level 41: Aid Self -- IntRdx-I(A), Mrcl-Heal/EndRdx(42), Mrcl-EndRdx/Rchg(42), Mrcl-Heal/Rchg(42), Mrcl-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(43), Mrcl-Heal(48)
Level 44: Soul Tentacles -- Enf'dOp-Acc/Rchg(A), Enf'dOp-EndRdx/Immob(45), Enf'dOp-Acc/EndRdx(45), Enf'dOp-Immob/Rng(45), Enf'dOp-Acc/Immob/Rchg(46), Enf'dOp-Acc/Immob(46)
Level 47: Super Jump -- Jump-I(A)
Level 49: Against All Odds -- EndRdx-I(A)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Fury
Level 6: Ninja Run
Imma help you out...Your end recov isnt insufficient, your end drain is gonna be a real killer, drop that +3 def pvp proc asap! have fun even trying to find one for sale and then getting it for under 2 billion! Drop that panacea proc. not needed...Lists go on and on and on and on....too much to even mention....scratch all that...start over or just look at this build...hehe
And btw, never put rech IO's in Active Defense, u will begin to hate pausing so much to activate it, and you need to lower the end drain in it, if you cant afford/find the hami's i have in mine(which btw really buff the Def Debuff Resistance) then just look at my alt slotting for it, its just 2 end IO's.Cheap way of slotting it.
Glad you went with dark patron, its very good, another aoe with dark obliteration is awesome. Darkest night isnt needed with all the mitigation your gonna get with footstomp and shield charge and the added -tohit from dark obliteration. If it gets hairy then pop that T9 and the crash is easily overcomed by a couple small blues ins.
Hope this helps and any suggestions/changes/comments on mine is appreciated.
Villain Plan by Mids' Villain Designer 1.707
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Level 50 Magic Brute
Primary Power Set: Super Strength
Secondary Power Set: Shield Defense
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leaping
Ancillary Pool: Soul Mastery
Villain Profile:
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Level 1: Punch
(A) Kinetic Combat - Accuracy/Damage: Level 35
(3) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance: Level 35
(3) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Recharge: Level 35
(5) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance/Recharge: Level 35
Level 1: Deflection
(A) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/Endurance: Level 30
(7) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3%: Level 30
(9) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed: Level 50
(9) Luck of the Gambler - Defense: Level 50
Level 2: Battle Agility
(A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed: Level 50
(5) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance: Level 50
(11) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
(13) Luck of the Gambler - Defense: Level 50
Level 4: True Grit
(A) Regenerative Tissue - +Regeneration: Level 30
(7) Miracle - Heal: Level 40
(11) Miracle - Heal/Endurance: Level 40
(13) Numina's Convalescence - +Regeneration/+Recovery: Level 50
(15) Numina's Convalescence - Heal: Level 50
(17) Numina's Convalescence - Heal/Endurance: Level 50
Level 6: Haymaker
(A) Touch of Death - Accuracy/Damage: Level 40
(17) Touch of Death - Damage/Endurance: Level 40
(19) Touch of Death - Damage/Recharge: Level 40
(19) Touch of Death - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance: Level 40
(21) Touch of Death - Damage/Endurance/Recharge: Level 40
(21) Touch of Death - Chance of Damage(Negative): Level 40
Level 8: Knockout Blow
(A) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Damage: Level 50
(23) Mako's Bite - Damage/Endurance: Level 50
(23) Mako's Bite - Damage/Recharge: Level 50
(25) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
(25) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
(27) Mako's Bite - Chance of Damage(Lethal): Level 50
Level 10: Active Defense
(A) HamiO:Enzyme Exposure
(46) HamiO:Enzyme Exposure
Level 12: Hurdle
(A) Jumping IO: Level 50
Level 14: Hasten
(A) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
(15) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
Level 16: Health
(A) Miracle - +Recovery: Level 40
(29) Miracle - Heal: Level 40
Level 18: Rage
(A) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff: Level 50
(31) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Recharge: Level 50
(31) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Recharge/Endurance: Level 50
(33) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Recharge/Endurance: Level 50
(33) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Endurance: Level 50
(33) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Chance for Build Up: Level 50
Level 20: Stamina
(A) Performance Shifter - EndMod: Level 50
(27) Performance Shifter - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50
(29) Performance Shifter - EndMod/Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50
(34) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End: Level 50
(34) Performance Shifter - EndMod/Accuracy: Level 50
(34) Performance Shifter - EndMod/Recharge: Level 50
Level 22: Against All Odds
(A) Endurance Reduction IO: Level 50
Level 24: Phalanx Fighting
(A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed: Level 50
Level 26: Super Speed
(A) Blessing of the Zephyr - Knockback Reduction (4 points): Level 50
(50) Blessing of the Zephyr - Run Speed, Jump, Flight Speed, Range: Level 50
(50) Blessing of the Zephyr - Run Speed, Jump, Flight Speed, Range/Endurance: Level 50
Level 28: Boxing
(A) Damage Increase IO: Level 50
Level 30: Combat Jumping
(A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed: Level 50
(31) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Recharge: Level 50
(36) Luck of the Gambler - Defense: Level 50
(50) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
Level 32: Foot Stomp
(A) Eradication - Damage: Level 30
(36) Eradication - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge: Level 30
(36) Eradication - Damage/Recharge: Level 30
(37) Eradication - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 30
(37) Endurance Reduction IO: Level 50
(37) Force Feedback - Chance for +Recharge: Level 50
Level 35: Shield Charge
(A) Obliteration - Damage: Level 50
(39) Obliteration - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50
(39) Obliteration - Damage/Recharge: Level 50
(39) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 50
(40) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
(40) Obliteration - Chance for Smashing Damage: Level 50
Level 38: Tough
(A) Aegis - Resistance: Level 50
(40) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance: Level 50
(42) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
Level 41: Gloom
(A) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage: Level 50
(42) Thunderstrike - Damage/Endurance: Level 50
(42) Thunderstrike - Damage/Recharge: Level 50
(43) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 50
(43) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance: Level 50
(43) Thunderstrike - Damage/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
Level 44: Dark Obliteration
(A) Siphon Insight - ToHit Debuff: Level 50
(45) Siphon Insight - Accuracy/ToHit Debuff: Level 50
(45) Siphon Insight - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50
(45) Siphon Insight - ToHit Debuff/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
(46) Siphon Insight - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
(46) Siphon Insight - Chance for +ToHit: Level 50
Level 47: Weave
(A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed: Level 50
(48) Luck of the Gambler - Defense: Level 50
(48) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance: Level 50
(48) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
Level 49: One with the Shield
(A) Resist Damage IO: Level 50
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Level 1: Brawl
(A) Empty
Level 1: Sprint
(A) Empty
Level 2: Rest
(A) Empty
Level 1: Fury
Level 0: Ninja Run
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Edit* your end recov IS* insufficient....sry was tired and typing way too fast.
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While you're levelling, put in enough that it recharges before it wears out, plus a little extra to CYA if you're debuffed. Once you hit 50 and do your final build respec, take out any slots you put in it, and put an End Reduction in the default slot. My SS/SR brute went from 10 End every 66 seconds to 7.4 End every 97 seconds when I made that change to Practiced Brawler. That's a change from 0.15 End/sec to 0.076 End/sec, and it's very rare that you need PB or AD double-stacked. Romulus's rez in the ITF is usually the only time I need it doubled up.
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Originally Posted by PBaRmy
And btw, never put rech IO's in Active Defense
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@Roderick
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On both my shield characters I put 2 Memberanes in Active Defense. I think getting extra DDR from stacking it is great, especially if you skip Grant Cover like you did.
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Originally Posted by PBaRmy
And btw, never put rech IO's in Active Defense
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[U][URL="http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=251594"][/URL][/U]
I was playing around with different combos in AD earlier and noticed something worth mentioning. If you have enough global recharge (mine is at about 50% without hasten on), instead of using 2 Membrane Exposures you could just put one, and then put an Enzyme Exposure in the other slot. This brings the recharge up to 109.9 instead of 92.9 (on mine, yours might be different), but it reduces the end cost from 10.4 to 7.8, and increases the DDR from 24.2% to 26.5%. If endurance is indeed a problem, then this would definitely help since it won't be firing off as frequently and will cost less endurance each time. Of course, you need enough global recharge to pull it off but shields leave you plenty of room for LoTG +Rech IOs. Just a thought, although I guess for a lot of people it's really a matter of preference.
OK,
I made this toon...thought it was a neat concept...worked a build. Havnt dont a build in a very long time (nor played)
Tell me what you think...be gentle...
haha
Villain Plan by Mids' Villain Designer 1.707
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Level 50 Natural Brute
Primary Power Set: Super Strength
Secondary Power Set: Shield Defense
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Soul Mastery
Villain Profile:
Level 1: Punch -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(43), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(43), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(46)
Level 1: Deflection -- GA-3defTpProc(A), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(3), LkGmblr-Def/Rchg(3), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(29), LkGmblr-Def(50)
Level 2: Haymaker -- T'Death-Dam%(A), T'Death-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(13), T'Death-Dmg/Rchg(17), T'Death-Dmg/EndRdx(27), T'Death-Acc/Dmg(27), T'Death-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(48)
Level 4: True Grit -- Numna-Heal/Rchg(A), Numna-EndRdx/Rchg(5), Numna-Heal/EndRdx(5), Numna-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(21), Numna-Heal(40), Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(40)
Level 6: Combat Jumping -- Zephyr-Travel(A), Zephyr-Travel/EndRdx(7), Zephyr-ResKB(7)
Level 8: Knockout Blow -- Mako-Dam%(A), Mako-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(9), Mako-Acc/Dmg(9), Mako-Dmg/EndRdx(11), Mako-Dmg/Rchg(11), Mako-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(17)
Level 10: Active Defense -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(13)
Level 12: Swift -- Flight-I(A)
Level 14: Battle Agility -- S'dpty-Def/EndRdx(A), S'dpty-Def(15), S'dpty-EndRdx(15), S'dpty-Def/Rchg(40), S'dpty-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(46)
Level 16: Against All Odds -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 18: Rage -- GSFC-Build%(A), GSFC-ToHit/EndRdx(19), GSFC-ToHit(19), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg(21), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx(29), GSFC-Rchg/EndRdx(31)
Level 20: Health -- Mrcl-Rcvry+(A), Panac-Heal/+End(31)
Level 22: Stamina -- P'Shift-End%(A), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc(23), P'Shift-EndMod(23), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc/Rchg(34), P'Shift-EndMod/Rchg(37), P'Shift-Acc/Rchg(39)
Level 24: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(25), RechRdx-I(25)
Level 26: Maneuvers -- GftotA-Def(A), GftotA-Def/EndRdx(31), GftotA-Def/Rchg(50)
Level 28: Grant Cover -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 30: Super Jump -- Zephyr-Travel(A), Zephyr-Travel/EndRdx(48), Zephyr-ResKB(48)
Level 32: Foot Stomp -- Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(A), Oblit-Dmg(33), Oblit-%Dam(33), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(33), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(34), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(34)
Level 35: Shield Charge -- Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(A), Oblit-%Dam(36), Oblit-Dmg(36), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(36), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(37), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(37)
Level 38: Super Speed -- Zephyr-Travel(A), Zephyr-Travel/EndRdx(39), Zephyr-ResKB(39)
Level 41: Gloom -- Thundr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(A), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(42), Thundr-Acc/Dmg(42), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx(42), Thundr-Dmg/Rchg(43), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(50)
Level 44: Dark Obliteration -- Det'tn-Acc/Dmg(A), Det'tn-Dmg/EndRdx(45), Det'tn-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(45), Det'tn-Dmg/Rchg(45), Det'tn-Dmg/EndRdx/Rng(46)
Level 47: Darkest Night -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 49: Phalanx Fighting -- DefBuff-I(A)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Clrty-Stlth(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Fury
Level 6: Ninja Run