Combat Attributes oddity


Aggelakis

 

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I don't often open my main Combat Attributes window, so I don't know how long this bug has existed, but I opened the window today, and the list went nuts, getting longer and shorter, seemingly at random. When I could clearly see them, the totals were staying constant, but the breakdown below them were fluctuating. After a while, the list "settled down", and remained the same length, but was still longer than it should have been. The bonuses were not stacked, or in some cases, were only partially stacked.

This is purely a guess, but I think that when I opened the window, it listed all the bonuses individually and unstacked. It them tried to stack them as they should have been, and unstacked them, and repeated this, until it ended with all the 5% recharge from Crushing Impact in one stack, the 5% recharge from Efficacy Adapter in another, and so on. Regardless, the lists are longer than they should be, and are impossible to read until they stop changing.


@Roderick

 

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I noticed this exact same behavior yesterday as well and bugged it.

I know it wasn't doing this prior to the I17 release, but I'm not sure if it was I17 itself, or one of the couple of maintenance patches since then that caused it to show up.


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Definitely having this. Looks like some lines of text describing bonuses are appearing and disappearing rapidly, bumping the rest of the text up and down when they do.

Even if it's "su[[psed" to happen (for example, because the bonuses really are adding in and vanishing quickly, and it accurately reflects that) it still makes most of the display unreadable as it jumps around.


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The bonuses aren't disappearing.

Pre-I17, same bonuses combined, for instance with 5 Recovery bonuses of 0.05% each (which I believe is Large) would combine, so in the Combat Attributes you would see one line that says "Large Recovery increase: 0.25%. I don't know if this was an intentional change, but after I17 this changed so that each bonus is displayed separately, so instead you see 5 lines that say "Large Recovery bonus: 0.05%".

The problem: some of these lines are randomly combining, so for a second you get something like:
Large Recovery bonus: 0.05%
Large Recovery bonus: 0.05%
Large Recovery bonus: 0.10%
Large Recovery bonus: 0.05%

Note that your actual total recovery never changes while this is happening.

I bugged this in-game a while ago. It's not a major bug since the final totals aren't affected, but it is confusing to look at if you're not sure what's happening.


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Originally Posted by DarkGob View Post
I bugged this in-game a while ago. It's not a major bug since the final totals aren't affected, but it is confusing to look at if you're not sure what's happening.
It's also annoying if you're trying to monitor items from your attributes window when things keep jumping around. Can't tell you how many times I've had to delete a wrong item from my monitor window and try again.

I don't like the slash command (which I can never remember off the top of my head, anyway), which in any case, doesn't even recognize every option within combat attributes.


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Originally Posted by DarkGob View Post
The bonuses aren't disappearing.
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Note that your actual total recovery never changes while this is happening.
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When I could clearly see them, the totals were staying constant, but the breakdown below them were fluctuating.
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some lines of text describing bonuses are appearing and disappearing rapidly
Nobody ever claimed that the bonuses were wrong, just that a text error was occuring.

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It's not a major bug since the final totals aren't affected, but it is confusing to look at if you're not sure what's happening.
It is a major bug, even if it doesn't affect gameplay, because it renders the entire Combat Attributes feature unusable once you've got a couple bonuses that should stack, but can't decide if they're going to or not. As I said in the OP, the numbers are right, when they stop moving long enough that you can actualy read them, and as Agge mentioned, it's all but impossible to click one to monitor it.


@Roderick

 

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I never noticed this window o.o


 

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Originally Posted by Roderick View Post
It is a major bug, even if it doesn't affect gameplay, because it renders the entire Combat Attributes feature unusable once you've got a couple bonuses that should stack, but can't decide if they're going to or not. As I said in the OP, the numbers are right, when they stop moving long enough that you can actualy read them, and as Agge mentioned, it's all but impossible to click one to monitor it.
You exaggerate. Although it is extremely annoying, once you know what's going on it's not "impossible" or "unusable".


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Originally Posted by DarkGob View Post
You exaggerate. Although it is extremely annoying, once you know what's going on it's not "impossible" or "unusable".
No I'm not exaggerating. I cannot click on the moving items quickly enough to select one to monitor, nor can my eyes focus on the moving text. Therefore, using the Combat Attributes window is impossible for me on any character with more than a couple set bonuses.


@Roderick

 

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I've had the same thing. It didn't start until recently for me, but it does it on all of my toons that have any set bonuses that normally would be stacked. It didn't settle down even for a moment on either of my mains (which have the largest number of set bonuses) making it pretty much impossible to read or click anything, even after leaving the window open for several minutes. Even static things like amount of Inf is moving so much and so quickly that it is impossible to read it.


 

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Originally Posted by DarkGob View Post
You exaggerate. Although it is extremely annoying, once you know what's going on it's not "impossible" or "unusable".
Well, today I joined a ITF team and me and some other people had Leadership auras. And my character was fully IOed. The lines in the Combat Attribute window were jumping so fast and so extreme that I couldn't read anything nor could I switch to another section. Just wasn't able to hit the correct space with my mouse. (No team member was moving when I tried to check the combat attributes.)


 

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*shrug* I can still use it just fine. Of course, that point is irrelevant, as it still needs to be fixed.


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