Castle Speaks - Heroes and Villians Can Swap Epic Powers
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Adeon Hawkwood,
Posted on: 2010-04-26 08:28 in Archetypes and Powers General Discussion
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Originally Posted by Bill Z Bubba
So you're saying why not create the new pools but allow the primary side to have access to both the current pool as well as the new pool but then if you switch sides you only get access to the new pool?
Which would be quite the buff for "those that remain true to their side." Which would piss off those that lose access the moment they become vigilante/rogue. Unless you only lose access if you cross all the way over. I don't think they're going to allow a brute to choose a PPP pool if they've gone blueside. That would kill the story portion of the PPPs. But then they will have to add PPP pools for each hero AT. Hell, I dunno. I'm expecting a cluster#*&$. |
That last sentence deserves a rep boost all on it's own.
The more people I meet, the more I'm beginning to root for the zombies.
I hope they tweak the ancillary and patron powers a bit.
More choices would be cool.
I always felt, lets say, scrappers ancillary are a bit poor. I only find fire awesome.
Power custom to this powers would be amazing, because sometimes the original power color dont fit on all characters, thought they say this isnt coming yet, they already say theres more features for GR still secret.
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I think the high end costs of those two powers completely balances them out no matter what accompanies them... exception being if conserve power comes along with them.
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Originally Posted by HelinCarnate
What do you mean accidental overpowered combos. You could not mean a spine/fire scrapper with access to ball lightning, and electric fences without having to take any other patron powers could you?
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I got the impression that they weren't planning on aligning each villain AT with a particular hero AT for APP powers (or vice versa). I figured they'd construct a new APP for each Villain AT and a new Patron Pool for each Hero AT. They wouldn't need to make new powers -- just use existing powers to fill the holes in the sets.
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Originally Posted by milehigh77
What I get from reading Castle's words is APPs & PPPs will not change. The Q that isn't answered is how the devs plan to line the ATs up with respect to changing alignment.
I think the only pairing we can say is 100% correct would be Dominator=Controller. The other 4 may or may not be so easy to answer. Especially for nubs like me. In my nub brain, the other 4 pairings are as such:
So in a nutshell, it looks like epic pools will not change with respect to powers available. The Q, in my mind at least, is how the devs view each ATs counterpart. |
[SIZE=1][COLOR=Yellow][U]Virtue Heroes (Serenity's Children):[/U] [B]@Eek a Mouse, The Devil's Mark, Outlaw Sniper, Gas-Soaked Rag Man, Amazon Prime, Friday's Child, Hot Blooded,[/B][B]Flower of the Moon[/B], [B]Rouge Demon Hunter[/B], Stimulated Emission, Animatronic Wench, [B]Lennie Small[/B]
[U]Virtue Villains (Serenity's Orphans):[/U][/COLOR][/SIZE][SIZE=1][COLOR=Yellow] [/COLOR][/SIZE] [SIZE=1][COLOR=Yellow] [B]Eek a Rat[/B], [B]Bomb Blondeshell[/B], Babe Brute, Jeanne Dark, Fallen Angle[/COLOR][/SIZE]
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I think it is the other way around as far as what is intuitively obvious. The dominator=controller is the question mark for me. That being said, I think it should be:|
Originally Posted by milehigh77
What I get from reading Castle's words is APPs & PPPs will not change. The Q that isn't answered is how the devs plan to line the ATs up with respect to changing alignment.
I think the only pairing we can say is 100% correct would be Dominator=Controller. The other 4 may or may not be so easy to answer. Especially for nubs like me. In my nub brain, the other 4 pairings are as such:
So in a nutshell, it looks like epic pools will not change with respect to powers available. The Q, in my mind at least, is how the devs view each ATs counterpart. |
defender=MM
tank=brute
scrapper=stalker
dominator=blaster
controller=corruptor
Dark Bard, Zoobait, Debacle
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chucknorriss
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I agree with Eek a Mouse that I dont think the sets will be swapped in any direct way as you are suggesting. If they were to do this, who made the pairings would make a BIG difference. If you ask ten people to make the pairings you would get atleast five different pairings. I would say:|
Originally Posted by Necromatic
I think it is the other way around as far as what is intuitively obvious. The dominator=controller is the question mark for me. That being said, I think it should be:
defender=MM tank=brute scrapper=stalker dominator=blaster controller=corruptor |
tank=brute
scrapper=stalker
blaster=corruptor
controller=dominator
but there still is a problem because
defenders and masterminds have NO pairing even remotely similar.
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I think defender and MM swap easily as they share almost half the powers in the epics. However, thinking back, controller=corruptor is not so good as controller epics are damage heavy (ranged and melee single target). Given that, they would probably not be swappable with dominators (more AOE and utility). So, is it MM=controller and corruptor=defender?|
Originally Posted by dragonslay
I agree with Eek a Mouse that I dont think the sets will be swapped in any direct way as you are suggesting. If they were to do this, who made the pairings would make a BIG difference. If you ask ten people to make the pairings you would get atleast five different pairings. I would say:
tank=brute scrapper=stalker blaster=corruptor controller=dominator but there still is a problem because defenders and masterminds have NO pairing even remotely similar. |
One thing is for certain, I now can choose from a set that does NOT have a pet (villain AT's). The flip side being a fire/kin controller with another pet (maybe), hmmm.
Dark Bard, Zoobait, Debacle
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chucknorriss
speak american godamnit
I'd much prefer to see new, AT tailored APP/PPPs.
For several reasons really.
It will (hopefully) cut down on accidental overpowered combos, allow ATs to retain some level of uniqueness and will also not pigeonhole ATs into the roles of their so-called "counterparts".