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Many people are unhappy with the changes made to Hami Raiding - thought many people are ok with it. Many people have complained about it, but at this time, I don't believe the devs have even offered to LOOK at it again.
Meaning that bringing up that you don't like the raids is potentially a long term solution, but does little to address the immediate problem. Whatever happens... the problem will not be solved in time for us to get villains into the hive in a couple weeks.
So... I do apologize if I seemed to be rude or dismissive - it was not my intent. I - personally - did not find the comment that you don't like the new raid to be especially helpful to this particular discussion.
I was making a more general statement in that its not something that everyone finds fun. If a large number of people don't find it fun them maybe it does need to be changed. I could be in the minority in thinking that it is not a fun way to spend my in game time. The risk vs reward was more about the fact you get almost no xp if you are playing a non 50(the debt in itself isn't a big deal other then the fact you have to die to complete it). So your only real reward for doing it is either merits or an HO and red side I'd much rather run a LRSF then a Hami raid to get an HO.
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Thank you for restating your point Mortal, I happen to agree with several of your observations. If I may, a good way to approach someone who feels, like you, the risk and time are just not worth the reward, might be to point out the feeling that comes from pulling off one of the toughest challenges ingame, or the sense of teamwork and community of participating in an event such as this.
I'm offering suggestions as to how to spark interest for raiding within our fellow players, not necessarily talking directly to Mortal. The raids are hard and that has an appeal all itself. You might bump into someone you haven't seen in ages or someone you've only met in the forums previously. Heck, I was on an LRSF run by Kidengineer when I met Vega, someone whom I had developed a good deal of respect for from conversations held in the forums. In short, some of the reasons or objections people give for not attending raids can be overcome with a little imagination and a positive attitude.
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I was making a more general statement in that its not something that everyone finds fun. If a large number of people don't find it fun them maybe it does need to be changed. I could be in the minority in thinking that it is not a fun way to spend my in game time. The risk vs reward was more about the fact you get almost no xp if you are playing a non 50(the debt in itself isn't a big deal other then the fact you have to die to complete it). So your only real reward for doing it is either merits or an HO and red side I'd much rather run a LRSF then a Hami raid to get an HO.
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In fact, I don't think it's so much killing the monster that we're so keen about, it's knowing that we're able to coordinate so many disparate players to do it, utilizing resources and tactics that aren't available to the other side. It's a lot of people, who are friends, getting together to accomplish a difficult task.
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I'm being so critical of the "Getting the word out" issue because I'm in the same boat that others have mentioned, I usually don't know about a raid until just before it's going to happen (and I DO visit the forums regularly). This last one, I was barely able to prepare in time.
I'm also sore about how "We got the word out" was "spamming channels as the raid was starting." Suddenly, I'm seeing "We tried everything we could, then after some debate, we decided to forego the Redside Hamidon..."
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I don't remember this debate, and I play fairly regularly. Heck, this thread is the FIRST we've ever started talking about it, and it's happening AFTER a decision was made to abandon it (which has inspired a new lively debate). I didn't hear anything about it until this past Sunday, where the news was passed by people who may not be exactly "in charge," but they sure as Hell are listened to very closely.
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So... We don't like Redside, apparently.
Why?
What is so wrong about Redside? It's got interesting challenges, interesting archetypes (about the only one I don't like is the Dominator, but there are players who SWEAR by them), and more than a few decent stories.
Some players complain of it being a strain on their machines. Yeah, that happened to me, too. Hard. So hard it kept me from getting a 50 villain until RWZ was installed (because RWZ uses less resources than Grandville for whatever reason).
So... My only recommendation is to rectify that situation. You have a game, you have a HUGE portion of it available to you... But you're shying away from it because you feel your machine is a toaster. Well, here's a headline, it's not going to get any better for your machine as Ultra Mode comes down the pipe and starts working at turning your video card into Swiss cheese. All the stuff after Ultra Mode? It's very likely going to be optimized for Ultra Mode.
Save your money to improve your machine. Spare change, savings fund, whatever... I got my latest video card (NVidia 9800GT) for $150 (from a store, not out of the back of somebody's car), and it's been fantastic, even handles Ultra Mode on Test. If you can't save $150 in a month, something's got to give.
Don't like the story? Learn to roleplay. Learn to write. IMAGINE! The Rogue Isles don't need to be a home for villains alone. Your character can easily be a renegade, a mercenary, a person in a bad situation, or what-have-you. Lunatics and monsters need not apply. And if you're not at all into roleplay, then what the Hell is the problem with the story, anyway? You can ignore that just as easily.
Do we have to encourage more teaming on Redside? Is that all it is? I will GLADLY start running Redside teams. I LIKE watching what those archetypes can do together. It's a really good synergy.
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Or maybe we need to work out new suggestions on how to engage in a Redside Hamidon. Maybe new times, or a different day.
How about Fridays at 9 P.M. Eastern, 6 Pacific (Edited, thanks, Ice9). It's a Friday, people often duck out early on Fridays, giving them time to get prepared. Hell, we can do it at 10 P.M. Eastern. Where the Hell do you have to be the next day, anyway?
Is that not good enough? Too bad, nobody else is suggesting anything. Suggest something good for you. Let's get some brainstorming going, let's start working this out! If we just sit here, pointing fingers at each other, we're not going to get anything done.
And now, I leave with a parting rant:
IF YOU CAN MAKE TIME FOR A BLUE SIDE RAID, YOU CAN MAKE TIME FOR A RED SIDE RAID!
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Oh, I can't wait to see how this comes back to bite me in the butt.
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From my Reputation on this post... Get in touch with reality. it IS hard to save $150 a month if you have other things to worry about...you know, like mortgages, rent, heat, power, food, diapers, etc. |
As somebody who's hovering above the poverty line, somebody who's better off than me telling me that they can't save $150 is bull-crap. Find a luxury and cut it for a while. It's not like you need to see another lame MTV special on another celebrity's messed-up take on life.
There is only ONE person who I wouldn't be saying any of this to: Zekiran. She's let us in on some of the craziness in her life, and I would agree that she's just not able to catch a break. I'm probably going to find myself in her shoes someday, too. Maybe then I'd understand. But that's her, not the rest of you with your kids, your houses, and your regular jobs.
As it stands, however, I have my own struggles, and I was still able to fix my situation. The "Graphics Problem" is only going to get worse, for the entire game. Wise up and start your saving.
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Look at that. A full-grown woman pulling off pigtails. Her crazy is off the charts.
let me blunt:
Since Hami raids are usually lead by the same core group both Hero and Villian, and since no-one else was and or is willing to step up and assume the mantle of raid leader, and since the last couple of Villian Hamidon raids we barely got enough people in the hive to take down Hami, I can see why Kid and crew would want to not waste thier time trying to not only organize but lead the Villian raids......at least for a while.
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For every single raid be it Hero or Villian I have always known in advance when it was going to be, and yet for the Villian raids whenever I showed up we would end up standing around with our thumbs up our butts, playing tiddly winks (sp) waiting, shooting out last minute tells, BC's, spamming channels looking for more people, just so we could start.| I'm being so critical of the "Getting the word out" issue because I'm in the same boat that others have mentioned, I usually don't know about a raid until just before it's going to happen (and I DO visit the forums regularly). This last one, I was barely able to prepare in time. |
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Or maybe we need to work out new suggestions on how to engage in a Redside Hamidon. Maybe new times, or a different day. How about Fridays at 9 P.M. Eastern, 5 Pacific. It's a Friday, people often duck out early on Fridays, giving them time to get prepared. Hell, we can do it at 10 P.M. Eastern. Where the Hell do you have to be the next day, anyway? Is that not good enough? Too bad, nobody else is suggesting anything. Suggest something good for you. Let's get some brainstorming going, let's start working this out! If we just sit here, pointing fingers at each other, we're not going to get anything done. |
You can't make people attend, so all you can do is present them with the opportunity and hope they do.
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So... My only recommendation is to rectify that situation. You have a game, you have a HUGE portion of it available to you... But you're shying away from it because you feel your machine is a toaster. Well, here's a headline, it's not going to get any better for your machine as Ultra Mode comes down the pipe and starts working at turning your video card into Swiss cheese. All the stuff after Ultra Mode? It's very likely going to be optimized for Ultra Mode.
Save your money to improve your machine. Spare change, savings fund, whatever... I got my latest video card (NVidia 9800GT) for $150 (from a store, not out of the back of somebody's car), and it's been fantastic, even handles Ultra Mode on Test. If you can't save $150 in a month, something's got to give. |
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Don't like the story? Learn to roleplay. Learn to write. IMAGINE! The Rogue Isles don't need to be a home for villains alone. Your character can easily be a renegade, a mercenary, a person in a bad situation, or what-have-you. Lunatics and monsters need not apply. And if you're not at all into roleplay, then what the Hell is the problem with the story, anyway? You can ignore that just as easily.
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How about Fridays at 9 P.M. Eastern, 5 Pacific. It's a Friday, people often duck out early on Fridays, giving them time to get prepared. Hell, we can do it at 10 P.M. Eastern. Where the Hell do you have to be the next day, anyway?
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Is that not good enough? Too bad, nobody else is suggesting anything.
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Anyone, and everyone, interested in seeing successful raids regularly occur on both red and blue side should make it their responsibility to show up on time, be familiar with the tactics used, and do their best to bring interested friends along. I suspect these three things would go a very long way to bolstering the successes of red side raids.
Or...
If you know someone who goes to blue raids but not red ones, someone who doesn't read the forums, someone who thinks playing red side will make them "dirty"... encourage them to come with you, to try it out. Educate them about how Hami Raids work, and why. Then, show up, ready to listen and do your best. Who knows, with a bit of luck and little server lag, you just might win.
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I've noticed that no one has mentioned the fact that some people (myself included) do not find Hami raids all that fun. Plus the fact that the risk vs reward really doesn't make it worth it as well.
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I'm being so critical of the "Getting the word out" issue because I'm in the same boat that others have mentioned, I usually don't know about a raid until just before it's going to happen (and I DO visit the forums regularly). This last one, I was barely able to prepare in time. I'm also sore about how "We got the word out" was "spamming channels as the raid was starting." Suddenly, I'm seeing "We tried everything we could, then after some debate, we decided to forego the Redside Hamidon..." ... I don't remember this debate, and I play fairly regularly. Heck, this thread is the FIRST we've ever started talking about it, and it's happening AFTER a decision was made to abandon it (which has inspired a new lively debate). I didn't hear anything about it until this past Sunday, where the news was passed by people who may not be exactly "in charge," but they sure as Hell are listened to very closely. |
that was the second time it was discussed.
this was the first
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http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=211443
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http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showp...5&postcount=19
What happened was, we would raid hero side, and have a decent turn out. The next week the turn out would suck. Over the next few raids, villain side participation dwindled, and the turning point was the weekend that I lost power.
"Sorry bucko, but CoH and CoV are the same game." -BackAlleyBrawler
"Silly villain, CoX is for Heroes!" -Saicho
All I'm saying is that we need about 40 people in The Abyss on time for villain raids to happen again.
40 People. Really, just 40.
Is our villain population so low that the people that can dual box are having to bring 25% of the raid? If so, how can that be corrected?
(*cough* Hero Side too)
I appreciate that there are people that do not like Hami raids. Heck, I know someone that doesn't but has still been showing up to help out. I appreciate that too.
Getting the word out. Perhaps we should we ask to have a Hami Raid post stickied and use that only. That way it can stay on page one. That's the only thing that I can think of as far as that goes.
I doubt the raid will be changed. For those that don't like it, I will say that it's a thing of beauty with high rewards (53 merits *more than RSF* or HO) and can be done very fast. Faster than the RSF actually, with no zoning.
"Sorry bucko, but CoH and CoV are the same game." -BackAlleyBrawler
"Silly villain, CoX is for Heroes!" -Saicho
Well. I'm sorry, then.
I was trying to light a fire under everybody's butts, maybe get them fired up to try one last Villain-side raid, really organize one and try to throw as many players as we had at it. Who knows, maybe we could have reinvigorated the Redside, too. I apparently bit off more than I could chew on such a thing, and I'm sorry for ticking so many people off with my attempt.
I guess I'll drop it, then.
I had a lot to say, but after seeing the tags applied to this thread, I realized I'd overdone it. I'd pushed too hard. Whatever good I could provide to my side of the debate had been overshadowed by my overaggressive attitude.
I'm sorry for insulting the people who were insulted by what I had to say.
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I appreciate the sentiment, but if Hami were such a waste of time, I don't believe we'd be having this emotional back-and-forth.
 Eh don't feel bad. Hami is a waste of time.
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Look at that. A full-grown woman pulling off pigtails. Her crazy is off the charts.
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I have to ask those of you that don't find Hamidon fun... Thank you for pointing out that some people don't find it fun. So why read/participate in this thread? One of the strengths of this game is that there's a bit of something for everybody. Some people like to change their costume every day, some people enjoy watching their base expand into an elaborate network of rooms and corridors. Do you see people going into base building threads or role playing threads and start thread crapping? We know there are people who won't go to raids. We're also seeing that there are some who do. They could be there because it's fun for them. They could be there hoping for ribosomes or microfilaments so they can turn around and sell them on the market. Or maybe, just maybe they're there to support the community.|
I'm being so critical of the "Getting the word out" issue because I'm in the same boat that others have mentioned, I usually don't know about a raid until just before it's going to happen (and I DO visit the forums regularly). This last one, I was barely able to prepare in time. I'm also sore about how "We got the word out" was "spamming channels as the raid was starting." Suddenly, I'm seeing "We tried everything we could, then after some debate, we decided to forego the Redside Hamidon..." ... I don't remember this debate, and I play fairly regularly. Heck, this thread is the FIRST we've ever started talking about it, and it's happening AFTER a decision was made to abandon it (which has inspired a new lively debate). I didn't hear anything about it until this past Sunday, where the news was passed by people who may not be exactly "in charge," but they sure as Hell are listened to very closely. |
And Grey: You don't have to be a part of a debate for it to have happened. As Vega pointed out, this isn't the first time we've had this discussion on the forums. And even before that, there's been discussions within the core leadership group about how to cope with the attendance issue. The consensus is for us to hold off on villain raids until we can find a solution, in the meantime, focus on what we CAN do, and that is to keep the hero raids coming. Since this thread started, I've seen nothing but criticism from you with phrases such as... "chosen few" and "The wheat is starting to rot..." And then there's the assertion about the MOTD of a channel you've never been in and the assertion that this is the first time this topic is being discussed. If you have a problem with me or any member of the raid leadership, please bring it up with me and/or the person in question, be it here, in tells, in PMs, to give us an opportunity to resolve it.
I would like to ask everyone at this point to keep their criticisms constructive and informed. Vega brought up a problem and we're working together to find a solution, preferably without flame or drama. Thank you.
If somebody you're arguing with goes off the deep end, don't follow.
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Well. I'm sorry, then.
I was trying to light a fire under everybody's butts, maybe get them fired up to try one last Villain-side raid, really organize one and try to throw as many players as we had at it. Who knows, maybe we could have reinvigorated the Redside, too. I apparently bit off more than I could chew on such a thing, and I'm sorry for ticking so many people off with my attempt. I guess I'll drop it, then. |
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I have to ask those of you that don't find Hamidon fun... Thank you for pointing out that some people don't find it fun. So why read/participate in this thread? One of the strengths of this game is that there's a bit of something for everybody. Some people like to change their costume every day, some people enjoy watching their base expand into an elaborate network of rooms and corridors. Do you see people going into base building threads or role playing threads and start thread crapping? We know there are people who won't go to raids. We're also seeing that there are some who do. They could be there because it's fun for them. They could be there hoping for ribosomes or microfilaments so they can turn around and sell them on the market. Or maybe, just maybe they're there to support the community.
And Grey: You don't have to be a part of a debate for it to have happened. As Vega pointed out, this isn't the first time we've had this discussion on the forums. And even before that, there's been discussions within the core leadership group about how to cope with the attendance issue. The consensus is for us to hold off on villain raids until we can find a solution, in the meantime, focus on what we CAN do, and that is to keep the hero raids coming. Since this thread started, I've seen nothing but criticism from you with phrases such as... "chosen few" and "The wheat is starting to rot..." And then there's the assertion about the MOTD of a channel you've never been in and the assertion that this is the first time this topic is being discussed. If you have a problem with me or any member of the raid leadership, please bring it up with me and/or the person in question, be it here, in tells, in PMs, to give us an opportunity to resolve it. I would like to ask everyone at this point to keep their criticisms constructive and informed. Vega brought up a problem and we're working together to find a solution, preferably without flame or drama. Thank you. |
I think he fails to see how difficult it can be to organize these events, getting 40 to 50 people in one place at a designated time and then trying to get those 40 "hoping for 50"
to pay attention long enough for you and the other raid leaders to explain what needs to be done for a successfull raid.
I'm sure no disrespect was intended.
We can ***** & moan about it all day here on the forums, we can try to analyze 100 different ways from Tuesday why there is less a turnout Red then Blue, and we can all come up with hundreds of ideas on how we can improve turnout for redside raids......but
like I said earlier, we can't make them come, we just hope they do.
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I don't know what set me off so badly. It just seemed to me that the typical organizers of these events dropped it without asking if anybody else wanted to try to help. This meshed with some other problems I've been having with the server and channels (J.S. especially), and I blew my top.
I was obviously mistaken, though. So, I'm standing down.
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Look at that. A full-grown woman pulling off pigtails. Her crazy is off the charts.
Ok time for my 2 cents on the issue.... I am not sure that not getting the word out is necessarily the full problem. We were alternating red/blue same time every other week so it was pretty much a no-brainer for me that there was a raid on Protector every Sat. I am only an occasional reader of the forums and do not frequent JS, etc. so I just show up at 5 EST on saturdays. For me the raids are not only about what I get, I enjoy seeing people I do not regularly see and team with. It is more a social event. I appreciate everything the leaders do to get these things up and off the ground. I would do more to assist, but have limited knowledge of how the raid actually works- except for on brutes/tank (lol) I would be more than willing to roll a new toon redside however as of late it has been a wasteland and I cannot see leveling a MM solo. I have tried for the past several weeks to put together tf/sf and/or teams and to no avail. I was discluded from an ITF recently based on who I have teamed with in the past, which I thought was horrifying. Seems the server has gotten a bit cliquey (if that is a word) of late. I always considered myself pretty impartial and will team with anyone and try as best as I can to better the Protector server but that was a direct slap in the face. I would love to see Protector be the friendly loving little server that I once knew and loved.
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Wow. We used to have someone like that on server before, thankfully he's gone though. Sorry that happened to you, Yeti, that sucks.
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"Sorry bucko, but CoH and CoV are the same game." -BackAlleyBrawler
"Silly villain, CoX is for Heroes!" -Saicho
Yes, it was absolutely horrifying for me- as you all know I love me an ITF 
. Stood around waiting for an invite only to be told that I could not be invited as I teamed with x,y,z and a member of the TF would quit if I joined, I must say the leader was very apologetic but it still sucked. I promptly left Cim and don't think I have returned. I made some toons on Virtue and said to hell with it. But I love Protector and love my Yetis and know 1 experience should not ruin my entire playing history but it did have an impact. I do not belong to any group or clique and think I have teamed with everyone at least once and will team with anyone anytime for almost anything! Regardless of that experience I still attend the Protector raids and plan on returning once I-17 hits next week. I guess my whole point is that the server seems to be a bit weird at present.
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Yes, it was absolutely horrifying for me- as you all know I love me an ITF
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That absolutely sucks, Yeti. There are people on Protector that I don't like either, and sometimes, I end up on teams with them. It's a TF though, so it's not like it's a lifetime commitment we're talking about. When it happens, I just grin and bear it for 2 hours or so, then walk away. I can't imagine getting painted guilty by association though. That just sucks.
Kid I didn't mean to bring down the thread I just wanted to point out that while everyone is looking at reasons why you don't get enough people to do it red side that it might be that there is not enough people who like to run it red side. That is the only reason I posted what I did. I didn't mean to upset anyone by bringing it up.
If the enjoyment of it is part of the reason why can't get enough people then imo there isn't a short term or immediate change that can be made to get people to do it. It would require the dev's to look at it again. Because it wouldn't matter how you advertise to get people there(and I think Kid and everyone does a good job getting the word out when they are happening). Also when it is ran would not matter as well.
Let me state this I understand why people run it and can understand why people enjoy it. I am in no means saying don't run it.
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That sucks Yeti, I'd not let you on my team simply because I am prejudice against all Yeti's in general 
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I understand what mortal prey is saying, as I stated earlier, I didn't find Hami fun either, but it was based on what it was, not what it is now.
That's me.
I go now, not for the HO (which I never use) or the merits (which I so far have yet to even use or care what they are even used for). I go simply to be apart of a giant team tackling a huge boss.
I am impressed with the sense of teamwork that happens on both Hami and RWZ raids. Yes I could think of better use of my time on Sat, or Wed nights both in game and out of game, yet if I'm not doing anything I'll hop on down. This helps promote the server and newer players in seeing all there is in game.
On another note related to the Hami. Is it my imagination or do I recall when one of the Dev's stated that they were going to change Hamidon every now and then to keep it fresh and new.
From Issue 9
"Moving forward, we also want to periodically re-examine the state of Hamidon. Since Hamidon is an incredibly powerful, sentient being, it only makes sense that it (he?) should evolve from time to time. If players discover a critical flaw that makes raids too simple or monotonous, expect to see Hamidon evolve again."
I knew I had read it somewhere. Course I didn't run with any raids from at least issue 5 thourgh 15 so don't know if he has involved any since i9.
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"Moving forward, we also want to periodically re-examine the state of Hamidon. Since Hamidon is an incredibly powerful, sentient being, it only makes sense that it (he?) should evolve from time to time. If players discover a critical flaw that makes raids too simple or monotonous, expect to see Hamidon evolve again." |
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They will only change Hami when players trivialize it.
"Sorry bucko, but CoH and CoV are the same game." -BackAlleyBrawler
"Silly villain, CoX is for Heroes!" -Saicho
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Players have to have some of the responsibility here. Despite the fact that some want everything spoon fed to them, it's just not possible. It's a community, which means everyone has to participate. I didn't come to the forums for years, until I figured out I was missing stuff. Doh!| But that doesn't change the fact that advertisement practice for the channels is "A few times the prior day and throughout the actual day of the event." |
Protector was my first home in this game. I still consider it "HOME", even tho I play elsewhere. Now pay attention... I spend the majority of my time on other servers now... BUT I STILL KNOW WHEN THERE IS GOING TO BE A RAID ON PROTECTOR. And so do most of the people I play with.
So... advertising isnt' the problem.
Speaking ONLY FOR MYSELF, I stopped doing hami raids after trying the new one once or twice. FOR ME, they are no longer fun. I don't give a crap about the reward.. it was the old one's sense of fun I enjoyed. To use a southern term, "it was the visitin' I enjoyed". So, therefore I don't do them, anywhere. Lots of people love them. I CAN say this FOR MYSELF (I always feel the need to stress that I'm only speaking for me)... if it were back the old way, I'd be there on time every time to participate, either side. *nod nod*
Kid and all the others that put in the time and effort to lead these raids...
.... *APPLAUSE*
It's a thankless job, and there's always someone to criticize. Usually, someone who does nothing. I applaud your efforts and thank you for doing it.
(Assuming that BrokenPrey is correct, below, that you're observation was stated to draw Dev attention to the issue. And no, I'm not being sarcastic.)
What he is talking about why it might be hard to get this done because some people don't like it. It has everything to do with the topic.
Once again, it comes down to what can the community at large do to increase interest and participation in red side Hami raids? I addressed this question specifically here.