Non-Mini ladder interest thread


Borderline Boss

 

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8v8 ladder, 15-20 man rosters, more or less same rules otherwise as current league. Who'd be interested?


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1. dUmb
2. CHS
3. Used to be Used to be Good


Infinity and Victory mostly
dUmb, etc.
lolz PvP anymore, Market PvP for fun and profit

 

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Yes.


 

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Signed.


 

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Originally Posted by Slax View Post
1. dUmb
2. CHS
3. Used to be Used to be Good
Are any of you recruiting yet?!


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I'm down...but need a team.




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Originally Posted by Borderline Boss View Post
Ur lucky day CHS is now CHSB
Are you a bank?


Infinity and Victory mostly
dUmb, etc.
lolz PvP anymore, Market PvP for fun and profit

 

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Oh, the joys of leapfrogging hehehe.

That aside, here are some concerns:

Length of Season:

With summer approaching, we might not want to have a long season. In a ladder, the games pretty much take care of themselves so that shouldn't be much of an issue. As much as I've had a love-hate with the current D8/D6 league, it's just too drawn out. After we've done our...8 or 10 week season we'll have another two to three weeks of playoffs? More than that if we need to do a home and home for each playoff series? So that's around 15-16 weeks...that's a crazy amount of time to commit to PvP with patios opening, BBQs getting dusted off and whatnot.

Prizes:

Of course, you need a reason to play. We're not going to get prizes from PvPEC if they're not involved, but I'm sure we could gather enough inf/stuff to make it worthwhile for people if they wanted them. I remember the old ladder gave titles at the end/start of every month to the top team? We won't get the titles but maybe an inf purse or something, or just Merit rolls shouldn't be too hard to get.

Structure:

So if we do a ladder, we'll need to have a ranking tourney. Easy enough. Then you'll need to do a challenge system. The old ladder let you challenge two rungs above and below and worked fairly well, though it was pretty funny when OS challenged the entire ladder when things died down.
We probably want to avoid having teams challenging each other over and over only to leapfrog endlessly. Perhaps setting a delay on a challenge to another team would be nice.

Line-ups:


Going to need some policy on having teams loaded in on time and present as well has a "once you're in, you're in" to prevent DCs and replacements by something else because your opponent brought something. Additionally, there should be some discussion on whether certain ATs/Powersets should be limited...

External factors:

Would be nice to have a break after the current D8 thing is done, it's gone on a long time.
Power changes or any PvP changes coming with Going Rogue might impact line-ups.


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Let's all make teams and compete in who has more psi/ems with procs...oh wait. Legaue is a joke enough, i really don't see how ladder would be much different.
Kara, there will be no pvp changes in GR or i17 except minor fixes for dual pistols. Woking on pvp is not profitable.


 

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Originally Posted by Neuronia View Post
Prizes:

Of course, you need a reason to play. We're not going to get prizes from PvPEC if they're not involved, but I'm sure we could gather enough inf/stuff to make it worthwhile for people if they wanted them. I remember the old ladder gave titles at the end/start of every month to the top team? We won't get the titles but maybe an inf purse or something, or just Merit rolls shouldn't be too hard to get.
o.0

Not sure why you said that but anyone can get NCSoft prize support it just takes putting the effort forward to do it. Send Mod8 a p.m. with a link to the event thread and a specific list of prizes/titles wanted. If he doesn't answer, send it again. The only benefit the PVPEC or PERC has over the average gamer is more points of contact to be able to get a hold of them quicker/easier and that they seem to recognize our names so we don't get lost in the paper shuffle as easily. Other than that prize requests are prize requests.


 

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Kat, it wasn't meant to ruffle as you know I have no issues with you or PvPEC!

I said that because I thought we needed to be PvPEC sponsored to get baubles and so on. Sorry there was a misunderstanding!

Rei: Agreed, looking forward to the pretty Mental Blasts flying around for the next three months.


Questions about the game, either side? /t @Neuronia or @Neuronium, with your queries!
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Originally Posted by Neuronia View Post
Kat, it wasn't meant to ruffle as you know I have no issues with you or PvPEC!

I said that because I thought we needed to be PvPEC sponsored to get baubles and so on. Sorry there was a misunderstanding!

Rei: Agreed, looking forward to the pretty Mental Blasts flying around for the next three months.
No ruffles. Was just passing on information I thought you already knew being a PERC rep. :-)


 

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Originally Posted by EnD_Reitanna View Post
Let's all make teams and compete in who has more psi/ems with procs...oh wait. Legaue is a joke enough, i really don't see how ladder would be much different.
Kara, there will be no pvp changes in GR or i17 except minor fixes for dual pistols. Woking on pvp is not profitable.
Stop QQing about it and beat it. You probably should have but you let morti kill you while you were on stalker.


Slax I think SMD would be interested but I dont think I want to lead a team so nothing definite yet.


 

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Originally Posted by Neuronia View Post
Oh, the joys of leapfrogging hehehe.

That aside, here are some concerns:

Length of Season:

With summer approaching, we might not want to have a long season. In a ladder, the games pretty much take care of themselves so that shouldn't be much of an issue. As much as I've had a love-hate with the current D8/D6 league, it's just too drawn out. After we've done our...8 or 10 week season we'll have another two to three weeks of playoffs? More than that if we need to do a home and home for each playoff series? So that's around 15-16 weeks...that's a crazy amount of time to commit to PvP with patios opening, BBQs getting dusted off and whatnot.

Prizes:

Of course, you need a reason to play. We're not going to get prizes from PvPEC if they're not involved, but I'm sure we could gather enough inf/stuff to make it worthwhile for people if they wanted them. I remember the old ladder gave titles at the end/start of every month to the top team? We won't get the titles but maybe an inf purse or something, or just Merit rolls shouldn't be too hard to get.

Structure:

So if we do a ladder, we'll need to have a ranking tourney. Easy enough. Then you'll need to do a challenge system. The old ladder let you challenge two rungs above and below and worked fairly well, though it was pretty funny when OS challenged the entire ladder when things died down.
We probably want to avoid having teams challenging each other over and over only to leapfrog endlessly. Perhaps setting a delay on a challenge to another team would be nice.

Line-ups:


Going to need some policy on having teams loaded in on time and present as well has a "once you're in, you're in" to prevent DCs and replacements by something else because your opponent brought something. Additionally, there should be some discussion on whether certain ATs/Powersets should be limited...

External factors:

Would be nice to have a break after the current D8 thing is done, it's gone on a long time.
Power changes or any PvP changes coming with Going Rogue might impact line-ups.
No.

There are no seasons on a ladder, need for prizes or a tourney.


Infinity and Victory mostly
dUmb, etc.
lolz PvP anymore, Market PvP for fun and profit

 

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I'd like to be a part of it.


 

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Strawman rules:

1. Matches are 8v8, double-blind lineup submissions, best of 3.

2. A council of Captains will run the ladder, similar to the pre-i13 ladders.

3. Captains will vote on banned powers, currently dom poisonous ray, stalker thunderstike, defender tk and corruptor LR are the "broken" powers.

4. A team will need 12 on its roster to sign up, rosters are capped at 20.

5. Teams enter at the bottom and challenge up. Challengers within 2 must be accepted, similar to old ladder rules. If you defeat a team above your team, your team moves up 1.

6. Challenged team picks first map, challenger 2nd. 3rd round, if needed will be random, resetting on caves, office or cage.

7. Ties will be replayed on same map. Up to 1 DC per team within (90 seconds) will be replayed on same map.

8. Captains will vote on whether or not to limit stalkers as in current league.

Prelim ranking will be based on sign up order.

A casual, fun spirit should be in place, DB DQs should not be the norm.


Infinity and Victory mostly
dUmb, etc.
lolz PvP anymore, Market PvP for fun and profit

 

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would this be on test like the old one? I think that would be better since you can have a lot more ios and builds avail - just my 2 cents.


 

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Originally Posted by Borderline Boss View Post
What if you tie repeadetly? Serious question.
I think it was GMW and Renegades who tied like 4 times in a row on a third match for #1? They just kept playing till someone won.

(I think Jal and Velocity had one where they tied a few times too or VR and Velocity, the old forums are gone so I cannot see..)

I would think if you are going to do the double blind line up thing then the chances of a tie are much less.


 

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Originally Posted by Borderline Boss View Post
What if you tie repeadetly? Serious question.
The double-blind lineup should prevent a lot of repeated ties, but I assume you'd just keep running matches until someone wins.


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Originally Posted by macskull View Post
The double-blind lineup should prevent a lot of repeated ties, but I assume you'd just keep running matches until someone wins.
Map stays the same but lineups can change, so hopeful this won't get too bad.


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dUmb, etc.
lolz PvP anymore, Market PvP for fun and profit

 

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Originally Posted by Jaso View Post
would this be on test like the old one? I think that would be better since you can have a lot more ios and builds avail - just my 2 cents.
This will be on Freedom. Test server is unreliable and folks get locked out for betas and stuff.


Infinity and Victory mostly
dUmb, etc.
lolz PvP anymore, Market PvP for fun and profit