Pillbox & Damage Taken badges - Same question!


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Hi Guys,

am working on what are virtually my last obtainable blue side badges (vet badges excluded) and just want to clarify the task so I can get on with it.

Do the badge series as in thread title accumulate, or are they additional eg Damage badge Nigh Indestructable is awarded at 25 million points of damage and Invulnerable at 50 million. Do I need to earn an extra 25 million or 50 million to get from Nigh Indestructable to Invulnerable?

Same for Invulnerable to Immortal and the last two Pillbox badges?

I hope they are cumulative but if not and I am aware, then I can suck it up and keep going

Thanks


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I'm pretty sure they are cumulative, so it's only another 25 million. It's how the rest of the badges work.


 

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Once you reach the 25million badge, your progress bar for the 50million badge will appear at 50% already, leaving you with only 25million more.

Same for the pillboxes. You (or your team) only need to take 100 of them to get all 3 badges.


 

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Hi Guys,

thank you for the very useful responses

So now only 40 hours for the 3rd damage and then another 68 hours for the 4th and then only another 135 hours for the last (Immortal!) lol

Thank goodness the Dev's do not believe in excessive struggles for badges anymore

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Be glad the last one isn't 10,000,000,000 any more... I sure am.


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Originally Posted by Master-Blade View Post
Once you reach the 25million badge, your progress bar for the 50million badge will appear at 50% already, leaving you with only 25million more.

Same for the pillboxes. You (or your team) only need to take 100 of them to get all 3 badges.
This is correct, I'm finishing up the damage taken badges now.

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So now only 40 hours for the 3rd damage and then another 68 hours for the 4th and then only another 135 hours for the last (Immortal!) lol
I've only a few million for the Invulnerable badge, and about 5-7 days for the Immortal.

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Thank goodness the Dev's do not believe in excessive struggles for badges anymore
My thoughts exactly.

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Be glad the last one isn't 1,000,000,000 any more... I sure am.
But this is also true, after the corrected amount (1 billion). I seriously think that the developers truly have no clue as to how much damage a character takes, especially support. I can say that even just resting in front of a CoT Guide while in rest takes around 3 weeks, and I started around 7 million damage taken after 5 years.




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This is correct, I'm finishing up the damage taken badges now.


I've only a few million for the Invulnerable badge, and about 5-7 days for the Immortal.


My thoughts exactly.


But this is also true, after the corrected amount (1 billion). I seriously think that the developers truly have no clue as to how much damage a character takes, especially support. I can say that even just resting in front of a CoT Guide while in rest takes around 3 weeks, and I started around 7 million damage taken after 5 years.
When I hit my 33 month vet badge on my badger, a lvl 50 Claws/SR scrappie that I still take into battle every day, and still only had 7.3 million points of damage taken, I had to make the decision that even with the reduced targets I would only ever achieve these badges through "Farming".
It was not until I actually started this process and quantified the amount of time this would take that I realised just how out of sync this series of badges still are!
It would be more in line with the new badge earning culture if the Dev's had taken 2 zeroes off the totals making the last badge award at 10 million.
This as a target is still high enough to make it a journey but at the same time achievable in "normal" play. I have posted this in the suggestions forum.
What on earth were they think about when the original 1 Billion target was set, the mind explodes

Thank you all for the info and am currently at 21.4 million total and counting


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Another part of the problem for damage taken badges is that only damage that takes you below your base HP counts. So if you have a bunch of +hp accolades and IO sets or use WP with the bonus HP or invuln or regen with Dull pain up for most of the time you will not add to the damage badge even though you may have taken millions of points of damage.


 

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Originally Posted by Snow Globe View Post
But this is also true, after the corrected amount (1 billion). I seriously think that the developers truly have no clue as to how much damage a character takes, especially support. I can say that even just resting in front of a CoT Guide while in rest takes around 3 weeks, and I started around 7 million damage taken after 5 years.
Same here: just finished my troller the other week and working away at my corr now. After 57 months, the troller was up to 7M and the corr was up to 9M. The previous goals were set too darn high.

Thanks for the correction SG. Got a little enthusiastic with the 0 there.


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am currently at 21.4 million total and counting
As of this post I'm at 50.43 million. I can indeed verify that the Immortal placeholder starts with 50% progress.




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Same here: just finished my troller the other week and working away at my corr now. After 57 months, the troller was up to 7M and the corr was up to 9M. The previous goals were set too darn high.

Thanks for the correction SG. Got a little enthusiastic with the 0 there.
No problem.

I'm getting around 1,100 per hit from a +2 CoT Guide every 10 seconds while in rest. Considering that I've got 1,312 max hp, I'm sure I'm losing progress from the "bonus xp". This works out to around 6,600 per minute, but let's round down to an even 5k/minute due to misses (streak breaker). That is 10,000 minutes or 166.67 hours or 7 days of 24/7 damage farms for 50 million damage. This means it would take an optimal amount of 336 hours to get the Immortal badge from scratch on a support toon.

Sigh.




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Hi Guys,

SG, big grats on your "Invulnerable", only one to go

I too am resting in front of a +2 Guide and my figures are as near as D**n it the same as yours. My HP is 1429 and hourly hit points approx 370,000.

I am using the flashback Castro Kadell arc at lvl 39 as the Guides are just inside the mish door and with a portal just down the corridor no chance of a stray patrol.

My expected resting hours are approx:

for 15 million - 42 hours plus
for 25 million - 70 hours plus
for 50 million - 140 hours

Total 252 hours or 10 and a bit days at 24/7.

This is reaching "Papillion" on Devil's Island solitary confinement levels and he survived, so blows dust off the xbox 360 and hunts for Riddick disc!

Cheers

Edit: To add - and when I was collecting the Day Job badges the toon was out of commision but I could still play ingame, these current damage badges targets mean the toon is tied up for a very significant amount of time and so the whole account is on hold as well.


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Originally Posted by Snow Globe View Post
But this is also true, after the corrected amount (1 billion). I seriously think that the developers truly have no clue as to how much damage a character takes, especially support. I can say that even just resting in front of a CoT Guide while in rest takes around 3 weeks, and I started around 7 million damage taken after 5 years.
I agree that 1 billion was set too high and I was among those who tried to argue with the devs to lower it to a more reasonable number - all we got was "working as intended". Still I managed to get Immortal on my badge hunter (a Defender) and it was painful. So when it was lowered after all those years I was miffled because it took something away from me that I had earned the hard way and I wasn't sure if I liked the change that I wanted in the beginning, after all the effort I had to put into getting the badge because it wasn't changed earlier.


 

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I agree that 1 billion was set too high and I was among those who tried to argue with the devs to lower it to a more reasonable number - all we got was "working as intended". Still I managed to get Immortal on my badge hunter (a Defender) and it was painful. So when it was lowered after all those years I was miffled because it took something away from me that I had earned the hard way and I wasn't sure if I liked the change that I wanted in the beginning, after all the effort I had to put into getting the badge because it wasn't changed earlier.
...how did it take that away from you? You still did it when it was difficult to do, them changing the badge requirements now does nothing to remove that effort.


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...how did it take that away from you? You still did it when it was difficult to do, them changing the badge requirements now does nothing to remove that effort.
I think you could say it was some kind of specialness. Immortal was insanely hard to get and that made it very very rare. However, I'm not saying that the adjustment was wrong, quite the opposite. It's just that the adjustment should have occurred a long long time ago.


 

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I am using the flashback Castro Kadell arc at lvl 39 as the Guides are just inside the mish door and with a portal just down the corridor no chance of a stray patrol.
I'm using the Origin of power arc's last (and only) door mission. The critters don't wander, strangely enough. The setup isn't that hard, as I just had to talk to the contacts once (actually a few times as I interrupted myself to get the MoKahn badge). The CoT Guide in question is level 52.




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It's just that the adjustment should have occurred a long long time ago.
The adjustment to all the "epics" should have happened in Issue 5, along with the change to the mentoring badges.




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Hello everybody,

as an aside, is there a reason why the "damage taken" series of badges has a run of seven when all the others have a run of six?

And just for my curiousity Myriad (apart from my open jawed respects to you for your version of Immortal), did you get it "in combat" or did you do an epic version of the "resting farm" as we are doing?

At my rate, to get a Billion points, would take 2703 hours, or approx 113 days at 24/7, ie nearly 4 months farming Arghhhh...............

Cheers


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And just for my curiousity Myriad (apart from my open jawed respects to you for your version of Immortal), did you get it "in combat" or did you do an epic version of the "resting farm" as we are doing?
At my rate, to get a Billion points, would take 2703 hours, or approx 113 days at 24/7, ie nearly 4 months farming Arghhhh...............
I farmed it, just like the rest of us. I used to set it up each morning, before I went to work. However, the ISP I had then, resetted the connection every 6 hours or so. And I coudn't run it over night because my computer was just too loud. I think I farmed damage for nearly two years ... that's what I meant when I said it was painful.


 

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At my rate, to get a Billion points, would take 2703 hours, or approx 113 days at 24/7, ie nearly 4 months farming Arghhhh...............

Cheers
I got 1 billion on my scrapper back in the day when we could use lvl 53 Rikti Bosses to "1-shot" us down to 1hp. We regen to full health just before he attacks again. Since the Boss I was using had 2 different damage types, both of them counted for the full hp on every swing.

Using this method, even the bonus hp counted because it's an "all or nothing" type of thing. Burst damage that leaves you below your base hp value will count for full points. DoT or multiple damage types that are less than your bonus hp does not.

Anyway, I also left it on when I went to work or went to sleep. I can't tell you how long it took because I would do it for a week straight and then not do it again for a while, then do it for another week. All I can say is that Including the AFK farming for the old Empath requirements as well, that ton has well over 3000 hours logged.

Anyway, that method is outdated because the AI has changed so that boss now uses 2 attacks and just kills you, so we are reduced to using the CoT again for less than half the credit per hour.