Launch COH with out useing the Updater. PLEASE!


Aggelakis

 

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I want to be able to launch COH with out having to run the updater.

I'm sure your wondering why.

Here we go, "My internet sucks." I'm puting that out there as a given. However in comparison to other MMO's I.E. EVE Online, Age Of Conan, Guild Wars, Star Wars Galaxies EMU. The COH updater SUCKS! In the above games I can start them up and be in game in 10 min at most, COH tho? An HOUR IF I'm lucky and that's useing the only workaround I know of. (That being opening about 30/35 insistence's of the updater I can open about 150 before I run out of memory but that just slows down my internet more.)

As I understand it and please corect me if I'm wrong, but all its doing when you launch it is checking for an update. First for the updater itself, then the game. It will also verify the integrity of all the files in case of a crash. (A utility that could be locally done with out an active connection). We know when a patch will hit its posted on the forums and on the server down time page for those like me who are living in the dark ages in the middle of nowhere being able to skip the updater would be a tremendous help.

Missalnous info I don't know where else to put.

Why can't I get a good conection? It's called "Ping" or "Latency" I have Satellite Internet when my computer asks the update server "Hea anything new man?" That mesage makes a 10,000 mile long round trip from my house in VA to the Satellite siting in orbit and then to Kentucky and then on there fiber-optic/T3/whatever line back to the east cost prolby NYC to the Freedom server the server says "na man go on throu" Or if I had crashed it says "How long have you had these droids?" No wate that's not what it ... any way it checks you papers and then sends the message back... to Kentucky back up to space and then back down to my house in VA. It takes to long, literally the speed of light is to slow. For what ever reason this action is timed and if your computer takes to long it doesn't connect.


Well I don't have this problem I don't think the dev's should wast there time on this. Yea your right I just thought I'd put it out here and try to drawl some attention to the fact that the COH updater is showing its age.

I don't expect this to ever happen. I can dream tho. As I sit here watching the connecting #'s go up, I dream of a better future.


All of them better futures...


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you can already do this by creating another short cut and adding -project coh(i think that is the right way) to the end of the .exe file. you will have to run the updater for any new downloads though.


 

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Originally Posted by Bronze Knight View Post
I want to be able to launch COH with out having to run the updater.

I'm sure your wondering why.

Here we go, "My internet sucks." I'm puting that out there as a given. However in comparison to other MMO's I.E. EVE Online, Age Of Conan, Guild Wars, Star Wars Galaxies EMU. The COH updater SUCKS! In the above games I can start them up and be in game in 10 min at most, COH tho? An HOUR IF I'm lucky and that's useing the only workaround I know of. (That being opening about 30/35 insistence's of the updater I can open about 150 before I run out of memory but that just slows down my internet more.)

As I understand it and please corect me if I'm wrong, but all its doing when you launch it is checking for an update. First for the updater itself, then the game. It will also verify the integrity of all the files in case of a crash. (A utility that could be locally done with out an active connection). We know when a patch will hit its posted on the forums and on the server down time page for those like me who are living in the dark ages in the middle of nowhere being able to skip the updater would be a tremendous help.

Missalnous info I don't know where else to put.

Why can't I get a good conection? It's called "Ping" or "Latency" I have Satellite Internet when my computer asks the update server "Hea anything new man?" That mesage makes a 10,000 mile long round trip from my house in VA to the Satellite siting in orbit and then to Kentucky and then on there fiber-optic/T3/whatever line back to the east cost prolby NYC to the Freedom server the server says "na man go on throu" Or if I had crashed it says "How long have you had these droids?" No wate that's not what it ... any way it checks you papers and then sends the message back... to Kentucky back up to space and then back down to my house in VA. It takes to long, literally the speed of light is to slow. For what ever reason this action is timed and if your computer takes to long it doesn't connect.


Well I don't have this problem I don't think the dev's should wast there time on this. Yea your right I just thought I'd put it out here and try to drawl some attention to the fact that the COH updater is showing its age.

I don't expect this to ever happen. I can dream tho. As I sit here watching the connecting #'s go up, I dream of a better future.


All of them better futures...

Just an FYI, your numbers are off. The satellites you are referring to are 22,223 miles above the earth. They have to be that high to achieve geosynchronus orbit. So a round trip would be 44,446 miles.


 

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Yes, this feature is already available. CityOfHeroes.exe -project "coh" will skip the updater, and launch with the hero skin. Of course, you must run the updater if there's an update (you can't get in if your client is the wrong version), but if there's no update this will work fine.


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Originally Posted by Sharker_Quint View Post
you can already do this by creating another short cut and adding -project coh(i think that is the right way) to the end of the .exe file. you will have to run the updater for any new downloads though.
Thats not working but I looked it up on the wiki and shure enough Its there but its still not working

The shortcut is set to.

"C:\Program Files (x86)\City of Heroes\cohupdater.exe" -project "coh" -renderthread 1

Its still checking for the server however it just got a conection after only reaching 10 that's a improvement over the average of 65/80

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Just an FYI, your numbers are off. The satellites you are referring to are 22,223 miles above the earth. They have to be that high to achieve geosynchronus orbit. So a round trip would be 44,446 miles.
... I did NOT need to know this its not helping my depression at all.


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Originally Posted by Bronze Knight View Post
Thats not working but I looked it up on the wiki and shure enough Its there but its still not working

The shortcut is set to.

"C:\Program Files (x86)\City of Heroes\cohupdater.exe" -project "coh" -renderthread 1

Its still checking for the server however it just got a conection after only reaching 10 that's a improvement over the average of 65/80



... I did NOT need to know this its not helping my depression at all.
take out the -renderthread 1 off of the end and it will work.


 

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Click on start -> Run and then just put this in it:

"C:\Program Files (x86)\City of Heroes\CityOfHeroes.exe" -project Coh -renderthread 1

That should work...


For me (on XP) for test I use:

"C:\Program Files\CohTest\CityOfHeroes.exe" -project CohTest

and works fine.


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he shouldn't need the -renderedthread 1 at the end. i have never used it and it works fine for me.


 

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The renderthread was for when Coh didn't take advantage of dual core processors IIRC, you don't need this anymore.

My shortcut for CoH with no updater is:

"C:\Program Files\City of Heroes\CityOfHeroes.exe" -project coh

That's copied and pasted from the 'Properties' window of my COH shortcut. Basically I just created another shortcut to CityofHeroes.exe and added -project coh at the end.


 

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Originally Posted by Sharker_Quint View Post
he shouldn't need the -renderedthread 1 at the end. i have never used it and it works fine for me.
I'm running 64bit Vista until today I thought the same thing. I read the article about Vista on the wiki tried it and found my lode times are now 3-5 seks instead of 15-30ish seks this is what happens when you know nothing about computers and switch from one 7 years old to a custom made gaming rig. My expectations were so low I was simply floored by how much I could do to start but now that its useing my duel core what little graphic lag I had should now be gone. I feel like such a moron for not looking into this sooner.

In short yes it worked fine with out it, now its working really well.

Any one know If COH is useing SLI right? I have 2 Nivida GeForce 8800 GTS SLI'ed tougher COH is useing both right?


Also the path

"C:\Program Files (x86)\City of Heroes\cohupdater.exe" -project Coh -renderthread 1

Still isn't instantly connecting (or rather skiping the conecting process) its up to 9 and seams to be going slower than before.


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Originally Posted by Bronze Knight View Post
Also the path

"C:\Program Files (x86)\City of Heroes\cohupdater.exe" -project Coh -renderthread 1

Still isn't instantly connecting (or rather skiping the conecting process) its up to 9 and seams to be going slower than before.
That's because you're using the wrong path. As has been stated multiple times in this thread, the correct format for you would be:

"C:\Program Files (x86)\City of Heroes\CityOfHeroes.exe" -project coh

(I removed -renderthread 1... the game does this now by default.)


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Originally Posted by Bronze Knight View Post
I'm running 64bit Vista until today I thought the same thing. I read the article about Vista on the wiki tried it and found my lode times are now 3-5 seks instead of 15-30ish seks this is what happens when you know nothing about computers and switch from one 7 years old to a custom made gaming rig. My expectations were so low I was simply floored by how much I could do to start but now that its useing my duel core what little graphic lag I had should now be gone. I feel like such a moron for not looking into this sooner.

In short yes it worked fine with out it, now its working really well.

Any one know If COH is useing SLI right? I have 2 Nivida GeForce 8800 GTS SLI'ed tougher COH is useing both right?


Also the path

"C:\Program Files (x86)\City of Heroes\cohupdater.exe" -project Coh -renderthread 1

Still isn't instantly connecting (or rather skiping the conecting process) its up to 9 and seams to be going slower than before.
read the responses from kioshi and i, you DO NOT need the quotes around coh or the -renderedthread 1. and yes, what aggle said, you are using the wrong path which was my fault because you need to copy(make a short cut for) the game file, not updater file and add -project coh at the end in properties. that is all.


 

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Originally Posted by Aggelakis View Post
That's because you're using the wrong path. As has been stated multiple times in this thread, the correct format for you would be:

"C:\Program Files (x86)\City of Heroes\CityOfHeroes.exe" -project coh

(I removed -renderthread 1... the game does this now by default.)

Yes your right I was that is fixed now WOOT! At last! I no longer have to fear rebooting! I can even use Quit to desktop now!

On the -renderthread 1 I'm telling you It was NOT enabled or what ever after I put that on it boots the game up faster, zones are loading faster, I'll need to test it more tomaro night, with and with out but I swear its working better now.


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Originally Posted by Bronze Knight View Post
Yes your right I was that is fixed now WOOT! At last! I no longer have to fear rebooting! I can even use Quit to desktop now!
Please note, as stated before, you will still need to run the updater on patch days, otherwise you will get a "wrong version" error which will not let you log into the game.

EDIT: Also note that City does not support SLI, so your secondary graphics card is basically just keeping your primary card company.


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Originally Posted by Dispari View Post
I don't know why Dink thinks she's not as sexy as Jay was. In 5 posts she's already upstaged his entire career.