Elementalist concept


Adeon Hawkwood

 

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ok Im wanting to make a controller that can use 3 dif natural elements. I need help on picking the power sets that would fit this concept BUT , still be able to solo as well and do decently on teams. Im open to all sugestions. I plan on taking flight as a travel power and i am only a 3 month vet( if that helps). Note i am not SUPER imaginative so work with me lol


 

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Storm is pretty good for encapsulating Air and Water.

Fire or Earth as a primary...

Earth will be a slow solo-er - Animated Stone, Tronado and Lightning Storm in the 30's will all help, but you won't hit your stride till level 40 this way. The 12 month vet power Sands of Mu helps big time with earth, but you don't have that yet.

Fire on the other hand will be a great soloer out of the box pretty much. Hot Feet, Flashfire and Freezing Rain will let you chew up big spawns solo really easily. Fire/Storm will be endurance intensive, so slot Hot Feet with end reduction and damage equally, and dont forget to turn off Sprint when you're fighting!

Fire/Storm should fit your concept and be a lot of fun.

Try this for starters:

1 Char
1 Gale
2 Ring of Fire
4 Fire Cages
6 Hover
8 Hot Feet
10 Swift
12 Flashfire
14 Fly
16 Freezing Rain
18 Health
20 Stamina
22 Steamy Mist


 

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Fire/Storm/Stone or Fire/Storm/Ice come to mind. Fire Control and Storm go together well and both the Stone epic and Ice epic eventually have a longish recharge healing option (which Storm does not). A Fire/Storm will have enough damage to solo. Hotfeet early, then the Imps, then Tornado/Lightning Storm later.


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Originally Posted by DrMike2000 View Post
Storm is pretty good for encapsulating Air and Water.

Fire or Earth as a primary...

Earth will be a slow solo-er - Animated Stone, Tronado and Lightning Storm in the 30's will all help, but you won't hit your stride till level 40 this way. The 12 month vet power Sands of Mu helps big time with earth, but you don't have that yet.

Fire on the other hand will be a great soloer out of the box pretty much. Hot Feet, Flashfire and Freezing Rain will let you chew up big spawns solo really easily. Fire/Storm will be endurance intensive, so slot Hot Feet with end reduction and damage equally, and dont forget to turn off Sprint when you're fighting!

Fire/Storm should fit your concept and be a lot of fun.

Try this for starters:

1 Char
1 Gale
2 Ring of Fire
4 Fire Cages
6 Hover
8 Hot Feet
10 Swift
12 Flashfire
14 Fly
16 Freezing Rain
18 Health
20 Stamina
22 Steamy Mist
Earth/Storm is a great team controller, but is very slow to solo until the upper levels. Another low damage option that might fit the concept is Ice/Thermal/Stone or Earth/Thermal/Fire -- just color the Thermal powers to look like flame. Or Earth/Cold/Fire. I would agree that Fire/Storm would fit the request best since it would have the best ability to solo. Another option not mentioned would be Fire/Cold/Stone. However, beware that Fire/Storm will drain your blue bar like no other combo -- you had better plan on getting lots and lots of Recovery bonuses from IO sets.

Of the build above, I think it is pretty good. I would suggest considering taking Air Superiority over Hover, however. Air Sup is a nice melee attack with knockdown . . . and while the foe is getting up, you have time to hit him with Char. And even if you don't hit him with Char, he's taking damage from Hot Feet.

Another option for travel power is Hasten/Super Speed. Super Speed has a built-in Stealth. Add that to the Stealth in Steamy Mist, and you get full Invisibility. Plus, Super Speed gives you great maneuverability for running around with Hot Feet, Hurricane, leading Imps into a fight, getting in just the right position to make Gale useful, or getting in position for using Lightning Storm. However, some people just don't like Super Speed -- that depends on your likes and dislikes. It takes some practice to be effective with Super Speed, and you will rely upon little "extras" like the Raptor Pack to get the vertical movement you occasionally need.

Just a bit of a warning. Storm is not the easiest secondary to play well. If you use your various knockback powers at the wrong times, you will be likely to frustrate teammates. Of course if you are solo, knockback is great mitigation and a form of control.


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Hmm how well does /cold work with fire and soloing? im prolly going to go with fire/cold or fire/storm

thx for the replies btw


 

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I've got experience with earth/cold, so some measure of caution is needed about what follows ...

/cold is a very solid controller secondary and it seems reasonable to believe that it would be a very nice fit with fire control.

Fire control is potentially very good for crowds, but sometimes the imps have difficulty staying alive against tough single enemies. The buffs on imps (shields, frostworks, and -recharge/slow resistance from arctic fog) and the powerful debuffs (infrigidate, benumb, sleet, heat loss) in /cold make difficult single mobs much easier to take down, and help keep the imps upright and swinging away. Fire control can be a major endurance hog, and heat loss helps greatly for managing that.

Its hard to go wrong, either way. Storm is very powerful, especially at upper levels.

If you want to solo AVs at some point, /cold will probably help you more than storm because /cold has a strong -regen power in benumb. In case that matters to you, which it may well not.


 

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Hmm how well does /cold work with fire and soloing? im prolly going to go with fire/cold or fire/storm
Both are good. Fire/Storm matures sooner for solo work; Freezing Rain at 16, instead of Sleet at 35 being a prime reason.


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I went with Earth/Storm, and I took the Fire Epic. That basically gives you Earth, Air, Water, and Fire.

Now that we have Thermal and Cold as secondaries, there are lots more options.

Lewis


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ok thx guys, im trying out fire/storm atm. I would love to try earth/cold/fire ( earth's graphics look epic) but as stated earths damage is just too low for me :P


 

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You won't regret fire/storm; it's a great combo......be ready to be sucking wind on the endurance though. Try and get as many +recovery and +end bonuses you can.


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Cold and Storm are similar, they share three powers.

Storm the chaotic solo-friendly version that heaps extra damage and knockback into the mix, and provides mitigation from a player-based debuff- Hurricane. It protects you too, but can annoy teammates if you play badly (or they're prejudiced against knockback)

Cold is the team version - mitigation comes from ally-only shields and it packs some awesome debuffs that shine when taking on AVs and other things that are too big to solo.

And yeah, Air Superiority is probably better than Hover. Hover and Hot Feet don't work so well together.


 

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I went with Earth/Storm, and I took the Fire Epic. That basically gives you Earth, Air, Water, and Fire.

Now that we have Thermal and Cold as secondaries, there are lots more options.

Lewis
If you add in the "Aid Other" power you will have covered the element of "Heart" and thus be able to summon the ever powerful Captian Planet!


 

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I went with Earth/Storm, and I took the Fire Epic. That basically gives you Earth, Air, Water, and Fire.
I did this as well. I also used the Lava theme for most of the earth powers and colored them so that it looks like a mix of Earth and Fire.


 

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If you add in the "Aid Other" power you will have covered the element of "Heart" and thus be able to summon the ever powerful Captian Planet!
Well, I have O2 Boost, so I'm covered.

Lewis


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How can you do an environmental concept without Plant powers?!?!

My best friend's 'Dirty Hippie' toon is a Plant/Storm who is taking Earth as an APP.

Go with the man-eating plants!


 

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How can you do an environmental concept without Plant powers?!?!
He was talking about Elemental control, not Environmental


 

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Originally Posted by Adeon Hawkwood View Post
He was talking about Elemental control, not Environmental
Doh!


 

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Originally Posted by MaxLongstreet View Post
How can you do an environmental concept without Plant powers?!?!

My best friend's 'Dirty Hippie' toon is a Plant/Storm who is taking Earth as an APP.

Go with the man-eating plants!
I have a Hippy-ish concept for my Plant/Rad. He was cultivating his favorite "Herb" in the swamps behind his house, not knowing that Crey was dumping Radioactive Waste into the swamp. From making use of his personal crop, he found that he could control the plants as they grew. He's got long hair and a big Peace symbol on his chest. His name? "Pot Holder"

I love bad puns.


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Is his arch nemesis a bar of soap?

I apologize for the above bad hippie stereotype joke, but it had to be done.