well regen would be wp.
tho fire can do a nice heal n pbaoe.
primary im not 100% tbh tht can be compared to spines. sorry. its just a matter of seeing what powers do aoes etc.
a large majority of brutes usually are meant to be built like tanks
the most scrapper-like set a brute has is prolly super reflexes
willpower, fire, and maybe dark armor are other possibilities that could be build like a scrapper if thats what your looking for
yeah, for primary i dont know of a powerset that equates to spines (spines is one of those very unique sets)
Thanks for the replies, but I'm not really looking for a set which scrappers possess, nor a set which equates to Regen in terms of efficacy or function; I'm looking for a set which plays like a Regen i.e. requires a lot of attention. SR, for instance, requires no attention, it's just a case of hitting softcap and then totally ignoring it, the same for WP (although in that case it's not softcap, but +HP).
Thanks for the suggestions so far though!
Fire armor and dark armor are probably the sets that will require you to pay the most attention to your health bar and end bar.
As far as the primary goes, brutes do not have anything that compares on the AoE side to spines. The one closest to spines in the type of attacks that it offeres is Claws. Eviserate and Ripper share the same animation. Both get a decent AoE attack early and both have a decent ranged and ranged cone attack. So far however, no brute primary gets to have fun with a damage aura. However if you mix claws with either dark, fire, or elec you still get to have one.
Elec is probably the only primary that will have you hitting more than one target on most of your attacks. The trade off is that the secondary targets end up taking less damage most of the time.
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Perfect answer, thank you. I'll get to Mids-ing those sets and see which turns out best.
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Originally Posted by HelinCarnate
Fire armor and dark armor are probably the sets that will require you to pay the most attention to your health bar and end bar.
As far as the primary goes, brutes do not have anything that compares on the AoE side to spines. The one closest to spines in the type of attacks that it offeres is Claws. Eviserate and Ripper share the same animation. Both get a decent AoE attack early and both have a decent ranged and ranged cone attack. So far however, no brute primary gets to have fun with a damage aura. However if you mix claws with either dark, fire, or elec you still get to have one. Elec is probably the only primary that will have you hitting more than one target on most of your attacks. The trade off is that the secondary targets end up taking less damage most of the time. |
Hey guys! Thought I'd be kind in response to your aid and post my Claws/Fire build. It's built for +recharge so that I can get that gorgeous heal up ASAP.
This gives 4s off Perma Hasten and a 12s recharge on the sexy 49% heal.
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It's accessible through Mids Hero Designer. Just do a Google on it if you don't already have it.
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Saw a few problems and some things that made me chuckle. You don't need 24 points of kb protection so a lot of wasted slots on some IOs that are costly. (better saved for your purples)
I see a major endurance issue so I changed a few things around. Made a couple of other changes, overall build is still mostly what you had. I would consider dropping a travel power unless you intend on this toon being pvp. Which this build would be hurt by DR in pvp IMHO. Let me know what you think
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Conceptually speaking, Claws/WP is the closest thing to Spines/Regen.
I think Claws/Fire is what you're looking for, though, so carry on. 
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Originally Posted by Atonement_EU
Sure I couldn't take on half of what my SR friends could handle (even when I finally achieved perma Dull Pain), but playing a Regen actually requires attention. However, obviously, neither of these sets are available for we Brute players. So what do you lot suggest I roll as an approximation of that play style?
I'm not looking for a character that will be 'oh ma gosh wowzorz' strong at endgame, just one that feels like a Spines/Regen i.e. requires a lot of player input. The closest secondary I can see is /fire, but what gives the same joyous AoE carnage as Spines? Cheers for the help! |
Secondary, in terms of what you're looking for, I think /FA is a good choice.
I also like /Electric Armor.
I'm not convinced on Claws though, for what you're intending - not because Claws isn't awesome (which it most certainly is) but because I don't personally see much synergy between the two sets.
Rather than look to only the Primary for AoE damage, you might look for a primary with 1 or 2 solid AoEs and then add Mu PPP for Electric Fences and Ball Lightning.
SS/FA/Mu would give you a ton of large radius AoE, as well as better survivability from having knockdown. Rage also bolsters all of your TAoEs as well as Blazing Aura and Burn - increasing their ability to hit and their damage as well. FA gives you consume, which will help offset the considerable END costs of Superstrength and the PPP TAoEs.
Footstomp, Blazing Aura, Burn, Electric Fences, Ball Lightning.
That should be plenty of AoE.
Elec/Fire/Mu would probably fit what you are looking for. It has a lot of AoE which comes early in the build and fire armor requires a lot of attention.
AoE attacks: Jacobs Ladder, Thunder Strike, Chain Induction, Lightning Rod, Blazing Aura, Burn, Electrifying Fences, and Ball Lightning
I have one of these and it does kill things very fast, but you have to pay attention.
I'd say an /Elec Brute, personally. I like Electric Armor better than Fiery Aura. It has Knockback protection, Lightning Reflexes, and Surge of Power to help keep you going, as well as Energize to heal, boost regeneration, and reduce endurance consumption.
As for the primary, nothing in Brutes matches Spines very well, and a Spines brute would be insane and ridiculous...So expect it once the game starts lose subscribers after the bump it will get after Going Rogue releases. Until then, Fire Melee, Claws, or Electrical Melee are probably your best bets.
Fire Melee has big damage, but no debuffs. The added DoT really helps is kill things off quickly. If you go for Fire Melee, you might want to pick Fiery Aura for the secondary. Fiery Embrace is a very good damage buff.
Claws gains Fury quickly, has a sweet PBAoE, A ranged ST attack, a ranged Cone attack, and a melee cone attack, plus Follow Up, which is a weak attack that has a damage and ToHit buff which you can stack, kind of like a permanent build up. Its powers are actually pretty similiar to spines, only instead of Quils you get Spin, and instead of the added debuffs you get reduced recharge time and endurance cost.
Electrical Melee has plenty of AoEs and Lightning Rod, which is a really fun power to use.
Too many alts to list.
Indeed what the above posters have already stated...and You have to go with the MU as your Patron. That adds SO much more to your AOE.
Hi guys!
You've always been knowledgeable on this forum (I lurk the Brute section constantly; it's my favourite Arch Type) so I was hoping that you lot could help me out here. My first ever 50 (back on the EU server) was a Spines/Regen Scrapper. I loved the fact that he had some serious AoE going for him with the yummy -rech and toxic DoT secondary damagers. I also loved the fact that Regen required twitch play to keep alive. Sure I couldn't take on half of what my SR friends could handle (even when I finally achieved perma Dull Pain), but playing a Regen actually requires attention. However, obviously, neither of these sets are available for we Brute players. So what do you lot suggest I roll as an approximation of that play style?
I'm not looking for a character that will be 'oh ma gosh wowzorz' strong at endgame, just one that feels like a Spines/Regen i.e. requires a lot of player input. The closest secondary I can see is /fire, but what gives the same joyous AoE carnage as Spines?
Cheers for the help!