THE Hamidon Thread


Casual_Player

 

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Ok, so let's hope we can keep it down to one thread this time ;P

So, everyone who frequents the Infinity boards knows I've been trying to get our community interested in a little thing called Hamidon raiding once again. My previous thread had mixed opinions about raiding, a number of people eager to participate, but not quite enough to determine a sufficient amount of interest. This past double XP weekend had me teaming more than usual, with more random teams. With each different team, there was one or two people asking when I was gonna get it back up and running again. From what I've seen in the forums and in-game, I believe there's a definite desire from the community to see this come back, so, here's my official "recruitment drive."

One of the biggest risks in having a failed raid is not having proper planning, so I'm going to try to do this right every step of the way. Before I can schedule a raid, we need to line up all our team leads. We need solid commitments from leads above all and have them sufficiently prepped on their teams role in the raid. If I've said it once, I've said it.... well, at least a couple times, you DON'T have to be Hami experts to lead a team, that's my job. The only thing needed to lead a team for this is to have good leadership abilities and be able to follow a "battle plan" (or whatever the hell you wanna call it) that I will provide for you, even if you have never participated in a raid. I had to recruit and prep two fill-in leads on the spot during my last raid, that had no experience raiding, and still came out of it successful, it just took way too long to set up. That's why I'm trying to get people lined up to lead that WILL show up. Now, I know real life gets in the way for everyone at some point in time, so I'm also looking for back-up leads. If you really want to be involved and step up to a team lead, but not quite sure you're ready, then this may be the perfect way to start. You'll still get the prep before the raid, but will get to learn by doing, and getting a little experience to make it easier for when you feel you're ready. It would also be nice to get the community more involved in the process so leading never becomes a chore for anyone.

I hope to get these scheduled for Saturday and/or Thursday nights, whatever is best for those leading teams. After we get a number of successful raids under our belt, I definitely want to try bringing the raids redside regularly, and possibly, even working on new strategies to bring him down faster.

So, this is how we start that ball rolling. If you're interested in leading a team, you can reply here, private message me here on the forums, or send a tell in-game to @Cremzen. Whether you want to lead a team or not, whether you want to leave a reply here, or talk to me personally, either way, leave a message here, so we can get this interest up, and get raiding back to our server!!


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The Advocates of Fate sg is most def down. Count me in as a team leader.


Join the Advocates of Fate on Infinity today!

@Inconclusive

 

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You're up early. I'll volunteer as back up lead, since my life will be totally devoid of anything and then I have to schedule time to breath without warning.


 

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Can I Volunteer as possible part-time backup team leader? LOL!

I'd love to do raids any chance I get but you know my crappy work schedule.

I'll ask off for as many as I can but ultimately I'm at the mercy of my boss.

*Whispers*
"I think she's the reincarnation of Ghost Widow."

*Looks around franticly*

Take Care.


 

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Not quite a hero;Not yet a villain

 

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I'd be game to be a team lead. I can run a brute, MM, corr, or dom. So just let me know where you want me to fill the spot. The last time I did a hami raid, I was on the MM team to distract the electrolytes. But I'd be happy and comfortable on any team. Just let me know what day and time your wanting to do this when your ready.

And if this is Blue side, I have ice/em and da/elec tankers, psi/em blaster, and an earth/storm troller.


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@Sabre Blade

 

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After two weeks of so few responses, I was starting to have doubt we'd get on track for this, BUT with tonight's ship raid, I had a good conversation with a couple of people that pretty much reinvigorated me to continue to pursue getting this together. For their participation, Saturdays are out, so I'm thinking of a weeknight, not too late, though.

We still need a couple more team leads before we can get this rolling again, and especially, a good stone tank to take care of Hami aggro for us. And I definitely want to line up several more back up leads, so if you want to get involved in active Hami raiding, LET ME KNOW!!!

For those that have left a reply already, I haven't forgotten about you, and will be getting back to you when I have sufficient leads/back ups lined up to determine your best fit.

Again, if you want to participate in raiding, even if you don't want to lead a team, leave a message here and be counted!


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I have a hami tank, if not I can lead/follow in just about any team. Well maybe not scrapper team (i'm a really bad scrapper).
Cheers!


 

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Cremzen, I'll be able to do the hami raid, only if it doesn't A) land this week; and B) is on a saturday. As far as anything else, I'd be glad to lead the controller team again. I just redid my Illusion Control/Empathy controller, gives off some nice numbers now. Just let me know and that would be great.

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Infinity server
Heroes:
IllusionXIII: Illusion Control/Empathy/Primal Mastery Controller, level 50
Axyl: Electrical Melee/Shield Defense/Body Mastery Scrapper, level 50
Diagonies: Warshade, level 49
Villains:
XIII Mastermind: Robotics/Poison/Mace Mastery Mastermind, level 50
Opax: Stone Melee/Super Refexes/Soul Mastery Brute, level 50
XII-I: Crab Spider Soldier/Soul Mastery Crab Soldier, level 50
Aethix: Ice Blast/Traps/Soul Mastery Corruptor, level 50
Vincenzi: Super Strength/Invulnerability/Soul Mastery Brute, level 50


 

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I would be much more likely to be able to make a weeknight raid than a weekend one. Granted, that means the chance of my participation is only about 50%, but that's so much more likely than the 5% it'd be on a Saturday.

I can tank or scrap as needed, but I haven't been on a hami raid since before they were changed. This means I am rather emphatically volunteering to NOT be any kind of team lead!


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Also: Six years of casual play begins to look an awful lot like one year of hardcore play.

 

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Good to see more people jumping on board! Right now, we really need to see who in the community wants to see this come back.

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I would be much more likely to be able to make a weeknight raid than a weekend one. Granted, that means the chance of my participation is only about 50%, but that's so much more likely than the 5% it'd be on a Saturday.

I can tank or scrap as needed, but I haven't been on a hami raid since before they were changed. This means I am rather emphatically volunteering to NOT be any kind of team lead!
This thread isn't JUST about recruiting team leads, it's also about getting people to voice their desire to have raiding come back. So, please, feel free to leave a response if you want raiding back.


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We still need a couple more team leads before we can get this rolling again, and especially, a good stone tank to take care of Hami aggro for us. And I definitely want to line up several more back up leads, so if you want to get involved in active Hami raiding, LET ME KNOW!!!
First, why stone? In the old raids, any tank was okay (as long as they had built-in knockback resistance) and I did lead taunt on my invuln.

Second, I'm interested in giving it a try, to see the new format if for no other reason. Whether I can make it depends on what night it ends up on.


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First, why stone? In the old raids, any tank was okay (as long as they had built-in knockback resistance) and I did lead taunt on my invuln.

Second, I'm interested in giving it a try, to see the new format if for no other reason. Whether I can make it depends on what night it ends up on.
Well, stone is the preferred choice. If none is available, then invuln is next. At first glance, all tank primaries look the same due to the fact that no resists or defenses in any set works against Hami, due to his untyped damage. EoE's cap resistance to Hami's damage type, so the main thing aside from the EoE's to focus on is regen. I've never been one of the number guys, but I have it on good advice that stone can reach higher hit point numbers, and with all the the regen buffs he'll have on him, that means higher amounts of hit points regenerated per second, which is key to taunting Hami. Earth's Embrace and Dull Pain go a long way towards maxing that hp. With all the -regen and -heal debuffs he'll have on him, squeezing out every last bit we can goes a long way.

The method I'll be using in the raids is based on the tried and true methods that have been used successfully for quite a long time on Infinity. IF we can make raiding a regular event here, and more of the community gets a bit more comfortable with the process, I want to rotate out of my usual scrapper team lead, and try all the other positions in the raid. One of my greatest hopes is that we can come together and formulate new strategies to vary the raid, but mostly, to bring those times down and build on the foundation of what so many have laid for us.


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EoE's cap resistance to Hami's damage type, so the main thing aside from the EoE's to focus on is regen. I've never been one of the number guys, but I have it on good advice that stone can reach higher hit point numbers, and with all the the regen buffs he'll have on him, that means higher amounts of hit points regenerated per second, which is key to taunting Hami. Earth's Embrace and Dull Pain go a long way towards maxing that hp. With all the -regen and -heal debuffs he'll have on him, squeezing out every last bit we can goes a long way.
Er...but wouldn't that make Invuln just the same as Stone Armor, since Earth's Embrace is functionally the same as Dull Pain? Or did you mean Earth's Embrace and Rooted?

I'm not really a tank person, but was just curious on the reasoning.

And I am free except for Tuesdays and Thursdays so far, just for scheduling purposes.


 

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Er...but wouldn't that make Invuln just the same as Stone Armor, since Earth's Embrace is functionally the same as Dull Pain? Or did you mean Earth's Embrace and Rooted?

I'm not really a tank person, but was just curious on the reasoning.

And I am free except for Tuesdays and Thursdays so far, just for scheduling purposes.
Don't you love it when your posts get dissected?

*Glares at Tiny Bolt*

Nah, just kidding. We need people to look at the raid from different view points so maybe we can find a way to make it better.

But, yeah, it basically comes down to the EE and Rooted one, two punch. When I first started trying to get some strats and prep done, it was mainly to help LG run a few raids. I honestly never intended to run any until Miss Illuzion conned me into it (just kidding). So, I took what I knew and looked to her and the OSHA's for some advice, and one thing that came to my mind, from the Hami taunt aspect, was that regen plays a strong role in survivability, so I intially thought, "What about Willpower tanks?" Yeah, dumb thought. When it comes down to it, a higher regen rate doesn't always mean more hp/sec. And I was really upset with myself that I didn't realize that from the beginning instead of being told that. Basically, stone has invul beat simply for the extra regen boost. If not for that, they would be virtually identical from the regen standpoint, not including slotting, of course.


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Don't you love it when your posts get dissected?

*Glares at Tiny Bolt*

Nah, just kidding. We need people to look at the raid from different view points so maybe we can find a way to make it better.
Eye no, rite, it's AWFUL.

And alrighty. I really was just checking. I had the initial thought of willpower tanks as well, but I had rooted explained to me and such.

Sounds solid to me. As someone who has never ever even shown up at one.


 

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Basically, stone has invul beat simply for the extra regen boost. If not for that, they would be virtually identical from the regen standpoint, not including slotting, of course.
If I'm reading Red Tomax's site correctly, Rooted is +100% regen. My invuln is at +300%.

Group Fly used to be useful in the old raids. Is it still?


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If I'm reading Red Tomax's site correctly, Rooted is +100% regen. My invuln is at +300%.

Group Fly used to be useful in the old raids. Is it still?
I'm assuming your +300% regen includes slotting and/or pool/ancillary power choices. Last time I checked, and by no means am I an expert...at anything, there's no power within the invuln set that gives any boost to regen. You would have to go outside your primary, or compensate with set bonuses, to get the additional regen, unless I'm missing something. I was referring to the additional regen boost you would recieve from Rooted before you count slotting, applying any set bonuses, or factoring in pool/ancillary powers like Health and Physical Perfection.

Having said that, if we're talking about after the build is completed, I have a Mid's build for a stone/war mace I've slowly been leveling that once complete will have 567% regen. It was by no means designed to chase as many regen bonuses as possible, seeing as it still manages to have near capped resistances, and being pretty much soft capped defense to all damage types besides psionic, and is still not complete. It does need a bit of tweaking, because it's all on paper at this point.

I am not trying to say that invul is an inferior set to stone, just that stone is the preference for this situation. It's no different then me saying that the best scrapper to bring to the raids is a regen. It's not that I believe all other sets pale in comparison to it, but seeing as how Hami's damage is unresisted and not defendable by anything we have, outside of EoE's of course, regen would be the prime choice seing as how it's nothing but heals. Nor does it mean I would ask someone to leave the raid for bringing a Dark Armor char, there's a place for everyone.

Anywho, yeah, group fly can be very useful, but everyone planning to attend should take a whole 5 seconds to buy a raptor pack just inside the entrance to Firebase Zulu before coming. It's just so much easier since very few people take group fly anymore.


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This thread isn't JUST about recruiting team leads, it's also about getting people to voice their desire to have raiding come back. So, please, feel free to leave a response if you want raiding back.
Oh I'd do a raid, I just don't really care to lead or target. I mean I *can* but I don't care to.

Actually don't try to recruit me for targeting... I've done it without complaint, but it takes me a bit longer, since I'm colourblind and have to tab to see if something is a green or yellow >_>

OH! I could tank, though. Regin and all.


 

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Anywho, yeah, group fly can be very useful, but everyone planning to attend should take a whole 5 seconds to buy a raptor pack just inside the entrance to Firebase Zulu before coming. It's just so much easier since very few people take group fly anymore.
I asked because I have two characters with Group Fly.


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Raid Anytme, Anyday! I can lead blue team if needed.

Sincerely;

Night Ranger Isis & Night Ranger Sheba


Whaddya mean, we aint got no booze?!

 

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Looks like we might be doing a raid very soon on a sunday night and possibly a ship raid immediately following. I think we might be close to having the leads we need, but I have to confirm a few people's availabilities, but we could really use a few back-ups just in case. LET'S GET THIS DONE ALREADY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Not quite a hero;Not yet a villain

 

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Oh, nuts! Did I miss this? I just saw this thread, I'm sorry!

If you want to do it again on some other day, let me know, and I'll try to help out. I don't know that I'd be very good at leading any teams, but I'm really good at teleporting everyone around and helping with healing and stuff. Just let me know when you want me to come and what you want me to do!


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..........Sundays?

damn.

I work every Sunday. LOL!

Oh well, Take Care


 

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As I said before, weekdays are better for me, BUT!

Evvvvvery so often I can make a Sunday night. If we've got enough folks already running around due to ship raiding, that's a plus. I'll do what I can to make the next one.

CP


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Also: Six years of casual play begins to look an awful lot like one year of hardcore play.