Kinetic Combat: drop rate bugged?

The KC acc/dam button is supposed to be an uncommon pool A drop.

The KC dam/rech button is supposed to be a rare pool B drop.

(Kinetic Combat)

Why is it that there seem to be so many more dam/rech available than acc/dam? I can understand why the Chance for Knockdown is the one people would prefer to skip, though it does have its charms, and you are to some extent sacrificing effectiveness in a melee attack by slotting KC at all. But my unscientific impression is that there are a lot more dam/rech available than acc/dam, and the blueside market prices seem to bear this out.

Is the acc/dam that much more valued than the dam/rech, that they're snapped up as soon as they become available? This seems unlikely, especially given that those who want one KC usually want four, and for many the least valuable one is the proc.

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some of the "minor" sets don't drop that often. Decimation and Entropic Chaos from the ranged damage sets also don't drop that much. I can pretty much count on one hand the number of times I've seen these recipes on wild drops.

Pool B drops seem to be a sight more common than rare pool As. In other words, you're a lot more likely to get a particular pool B drop at the end of a given mission than you are to get any particular pool A drop from defeating a mob. I can go months without seeing a particular pool A, but I am usually swimming in pool Bs of all sorts.

The Devs should never have coloured the Pool A 'Rare' the same as Pool B and Pool C (and in the old days Pool D).

'Rarity' only matters in Pool A. The others are attained through other means.

(When you have 100% chance of a pool C drop via a merit roll, rare is just the wrong term to use)

At 10% nominal chance per person per door mission, Pool Bs are pretty common drops, and unlike Pool A drops, they scale with team size. (Though more on the team often means longer to finish a given mission).

Yeah, there's really not a major loss if you slot 4 KC and 2 other enhancers, chosen to cover what the 4 KC leave lacking.

And then there are those of us on the other end of the spectrum who, if we receive a Kin Combat, are going to be getting the acc/dam. And nothing else.

Here I was thinking you were going to say for the dmg/end piece not the acc/dmg.

In bronze rolls I usually end up with a pile of the acc/dmg's and a few dmg/ends. Unfortunately over the about 100k tickets haven't seen any Dmg/Ends just a pile of KB procs.

(Of course I needed 4 for a build, so now that I have them slotted I"m sure I'll start rolling them again)

Random things are random would be my thought.

Zombie Man said:

Yes, several betas ago Synapse told us that they were weighting the pools so that recipes that fit into many powers would come up more often than those that fit in few powers. So, for example, a melee damage set would drop more than a tohit debuff set.

The Rare Recipe Weight Project seems to have confirmed this.

Thread.
http://paragonwiki.com/wiki/Random_R...es#Level_10-14

For Pool C, definitely. But Pool A?

What I would wonder is are we sure Pool A isn't weighted in the wild? Especially if it is found to be from ticket rolls; why work off separate drop tables?

Ahh - that helps. I didn't remember all the facts and the timing (I knew for instance that Pool C and Pool D had been combined post-merits, but I didn't know that the weighing was put in at the same time they were combined). Forgot about the dual nature of the Rare As too.

I had data compiled on the old boards.

Bronze Rolls are deifnately weighted. Just a quick sample of the sheet I have.

Uncommon

Offense	30-34	Drops	A	B	C
Melee	21	90	0.08	0.14	1.84
PBAOE	10	34	0.04	0.05	1.46
Ranged	21	72	0.08	0.11	1.47
TAOE	10	33	0.04	0.05	1.42
Sniper	10	7	0.04	0.01	0.30
Pet 	18	18	0.07	0.03	0.43