I actually have a lowbie SD/DM tanker. Level 11 or so. Maybe I'll re-make her as DM/SD. I already have plenty of tankers for times when I want to tank.
Yeah I just need to make 8 new scrappers (Fire/SD, Fire/SR, DM/SR, SM/SD, Elec/SD, MA/SR, MA/SD, Broadsword/SD) and I'll be all set. 
Lewis
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Heh, I have a lowbie SD/DM Tanker too, I think level 20 or so. I don't have ANY Tanks at 50, so it's kind of tempting to go for it. My intent was to make a DPS Tank so that I'd have a point of comparison with my survivability Scrappers.|
Originally Posted by UnicyclePeon
I actually have a lowbie SD/DM tanker. Level 11 or so. Maybe I'll re-make her as DM/SD. I already have plenty of tankers for times when I want to tank.
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But a pure damage Fire/Shield Scrapper is calling to me. I also don't have any high-end damage Scrappers, so there's that. Right now, the Scrapper is winning. Scrappers usually win in my brain.
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An SM/SD Scrapper? I'm not sure you'll ever be set so |
Originally Posted by UnicyclePeon
I actually have a lowbie SD/DM tanker. Level 11 or so. Maybe I'll re-make her as DM/SD. I already have plenty of tankers for times when I want to tank.
Yeah I just need to make 8 new scrappers (Fire/SD, Fire/SR, DM/SR, SM/SD, Elec/SD, MA/SR, MA/SD, Broadsword/SD) and I'll be all set. Lewis |
I meant DM/SD.
I think I'll try to show a little willpower and keep my SD/DM as a Tanker. I would like to have a Shield Defense Tanker on each of my accounts. I dunno. My active character I'm working on now is Dual Blades / SR anyway. So I'll just enjoy that for a while. But after that, either Elec/Shield or Fire/Shield or both. I should really leave the other stuff alone for now.
The weird thing is that I'm a controller at heart, but controlling got me into tanking, and my love for punching/slashing things in the face as a tank has got me into scrappers recently. But I have to say scrappers are pretty entertaining. Its great for me too coming from the controller background because I'm used to low damage. That lets me enjoy low recharge scrappers simply because they still crush my controllers in terms of damage. Being able to enjoy low recharge builds and not caring about hp and regen and whatnot, that really keeps my costs down. Keeping costs down is important for an altaholic.
Lewis
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Dark/Shield Build Thread
Well, I was kinda regretting not taking Fire melee on my BS/SD Scrapper, but, having seen just how many there are out there already, I'm kinda glad I went for BS. (Not saying there aren't an equal number of BS/SD out there) The Gladius coupled with a round sield looks awesome on my toon, really enjoying getting stuck in when previously I preferred ranged combat!
Working on SD/SS tanker myself. Looking at Rage double stacked with max out AAO... ohhhh just can't wait. 22 more levels to go. A word of caution... Be sure to see a doctor for any heart problems before rolling a fire/sd/fire ... 
I know its unpopular, but I just don't want to take the Fire epic. It'd be cool, but I actually want to take most of my primary and secondary, AND I want super speed, stamina, Tough, Weave and Combat Jumping.
So there isnt any room for the fire epic at all unless I drop Grant Cover and Fire Breath and maybe one other attacks from the primary.
So I'm just planning on Fire/SD/(none). I know I'm crazy. I still expect elation.
Lewis
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Actually I didnt take the fire epic on mines either and fine without it,everything dies fast anyways.
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On a Fire/Shield, I wouldn't take Blaze. It already has awesome AoE with FSC. Not to mention you'd be significantly more resilient with 95% DDR and a boat load of regeneration and recovery.
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Originally Posted by UnicyclePeon
I know its unpopular, but I just don't want to take the Fire epic. It'd be cool, but I actually want to take most of my primary and secondary, AND I want super speed, stamina, Tough, Weave and Combat Jumping.
So there isnt any room for the fire epic at all unless I drop Grant Cover and Fire Breath and maybe one other attacks from the primary. So I'm just planning on Fire/SD/(none). I know I'm crazy. I still expect elation. Lewis |
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Dark/Shield Build Thread
now, for me to decide between bs/sd or fire/sd (both of which I have are lvl 30+) >.> grrrr
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I'm waiting for brutes to come blue side and roll SS/shield. I haven't done either and I've got 3 50s and working on a Fire/kin willing to help fund it.
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My wife and I just made our first redside toons, and I convinced her to make a SS/SD brute. She is already very happy with it at level 24. I told her she hasn't seen anything yet. I can imagine that AAO + Rage + Footstomp + Shield Charge will be a beautiful thing to behold. |
Originally Posted by Amy_Amp
I'm waiting for brutes to come blue side and roll SS/shield. I haven't done either and I've got 3 50s and working on a Fire/kin willing to help fund it.
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As to the OP...yes. I have a 50 Fire/SR IO'd to the teeth, and after rolling a DM/SD, sitting at 39, I wish I had made a Fire/Shield. I will likely re-roll her once my DM/SD is finished.
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FSC + AAO is a thing of beauty. Just as I was getting bored of Fires lack of tricks and variety a smeg-load of orange numbers comes along to cheer me up. And I haven't even slotted FSC up yet or gotten Build-Up.
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Originally Posted by Santorican
On a Fire/Shield, I wouldn't take Blaze. It already has awesome AoE with FSC. Not to mention you'd be significantly more resilient with 95% DDR and a boat load of regeneration and recovery.
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I made 1 of these also it's at lvl 41 Im just a bit poor on redside to get the Io's into I want.Fun toon nonetheless with rage+aao and throw fury on top of that damage is just crazy.Very good mitigation with footstomp and shield charge.I actually made it to bring over to blueside when gr hits
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Originally Posted by Amy_Amp
I'm waiting for brutes to come blue side and roll SS/shield. I haven't done either and I've got 3 50s and working on a Fire/kin willing to help fund it.
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I've got my fingers crossed that GR will allow rogue Heroes/Villains to "swap" Epics; i.e., Scrappers can choose Patrons, Brutes can choose Epics. It makes 0 sense thematically to not allow this option, but I can see balance concerns.
If they do let us, then I definitely want to check out a SS/SD/Body Brute.
I can't bring myself to take any secondary other than shield on a scrapper. Luckily, I can't bring myself to make scrappers due to corruptors, so it's a moot point 
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I think for balance concerns they wont do it,but if they did That would be perfect.Now on the other hand if they dont how will they handle respecs when we go to change our patrons/epics.
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Originally Posted by StormDevil
I've got my fingers crossed that GR will allow rogue Heroes/Villains to "swap" Epics; i.e., Scrappers can choose Patrons, Brutes can choose Epics. It makes 0 sense thematically to not allow this option, but I can see balance concerns.
If they do let us, then I definitely want to check out a SS/SD/Body Brute. |
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Was thinking of going Brute on ss/sd, but didn't really want to spend a boat load of cash just to get my end bar under control. Plus I haven't played a tank since WP came out, so I figured its time for another one.|
Originally Posted by Amy_Amp
I'm waiting for brutes to come blue side and roll SS/shield. I haven't done either and I've got 3 50s and working on a Fire/kin willing to help fund it.
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Ohhhhh and 29% defense with just cj and the shields toggles on is nice, though it takes me an hour to kill an ant... price I gotta pay I guess
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I might have to turn in my scrapper card if this happens |
Originally Posted by StormDevil
I've got my fingers crossed that GR will allow rogue Heroes/Villains to "swap" Epics; i.e., Scrappers can choose Patrons, Brutes can choose Epics. It makes 0 sense thematically to not allow this option, but I can see balance concerns.
If they do let us, then I definitely want to check out a SS/SD/Body Brute. |
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Yeah, double-stacked Rage+AAO+Fury+Shield Charge/Footstomp sounds kinda fun, y'know? I know you can do it now on Redside, but I can't suss out a way to both softcap it and negate End problems.
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Originally Posted by Iggy_Kamakaze
I might have to turn in my scrapper card if this happens
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Bah! I hate it when a name I manage to get implies one of the powers I decided not to take due to min-maxing.
I got Dragon Disciple, and I'm gonna run with it, but I'm not planning to take Breath of Fire on my Fire/SD. Irritating. Maybe I'll make a Fire/SR named Dragon Disciple since its so much easier to soft cap. I could take Breath of Fire as a thematic choice. Then I could also make a Fire/SD and make it something else entirely.
Nah. And again, BAH!
Lewis
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All,
OK sorry to keep posting stuff in here, but I have a few questions related to my Fire/SD temptations and frustrations, so I'm just going to use this thread for now.
I created a Fire/SD scrapper, and I was all happy. Until I realized that the name I managed to snag, Dragon Disciple, kinda "requires" that I have Breath of Fire in my build. I mentioned that in my previous post. With some plinking around in Mids I made a character that I have some questions about.
(1) I managed to get a Fire/SD character with only 44% melee defense, but 47% to ranged and 46% to AOE. However, it does allow me to have the various concept attacks I feel obligated to have. Are those numbers sufficient, considering I have Grant Cover and all the other stuff in my build that can at least sorta keep my defense debuff resistance up?
(2) Is it sufficient to have these attacks (3 single, 4 AOE)? Fire Sword, Greater Fire Sword, Fire Blast, Breath of Fire, Fire Sword Circle, Shield Charge, Fireball? I do realize exemplaring will suck, but I'll probably have a leveling build and an endgame build, and keep both so I can use the leveling build to exemplar.
(3) Is it OK to have True Grit unslotted except for my Steadfast res/def? I just wasnt able to come up with slots.
I'll post the build here for your perusal. Keep in mind that this isnt the order I'll take the powers. They are just wherever I put them.
Thanks!
Lewis
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ZZZ TEMP: Level 50 Magic Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Fiery Melee
Secondary Power Set: Shield Defense
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fitness
Ancillary Pool: Blaze Mastery
Hero Profile:
Level 1: Fire Sword -- Acc/Dmg(A), Dmg/EndRdx(3), Dmg/Rchg(3), Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(5), Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(5), Dam%(7)
Level 1: Deflection -- Def/EndRdx(A), Def(7), Def(15), ResDam/EndRdx(15), ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(40), ResDam(43)
Level 2: Battle Agility -- Def/EndRdx(A), Def(17), Def/EndRdx(17), Def/EndRdx/Rchg(25)
Level 4: True Grit -- ResDam/Def+(A)
Level 6: Build Up -- ToHit(A), ToHit/Rchg(9), ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx(9), Rchg/EndRdx(37), ToHit/EndRdx(40), Build%(40)
Level 8: Boxing -- Acc-I(A)
Level 10: Active Defense -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(11), RechRdx-I(11)
Level 12: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(13), RechRdx-I(13)
Level 14: Super Speed -- Travel(A), Travel/EndRdx(50), ResKB(50)
Level 16: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 18: Fire Sword Circle -- Dmg(A), Acc/Rchg(19), Dmg/Rchg(19), Acc/Dmg/Rchg(21), Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(21), %Dam(25)
Level 20: Health -- Rcvry+(A)
Level 22: Stamina -- EndMod(A), EndMod/Acc(23), EndMod-I(23)
Level 24: Against All Odds -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 26: Breath of Fire -- Acc/Dmg(A), Dmg/EndRdx(27), Dmg/Rchg(27), Dmg/Rng(29), Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(29), Range-I(31)
Level 28: Phalanx Fighting -- DefBuff-I(A)
Level 30: Tough -- ResDam/EndRdx(A), ResDam/Rchg(31), EndRdx/Rchg(31), ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(34), ResDam(46)
Level 32: Greater Fire Sword -- Acc/Dmg(A), Dmg/EndRdx(33), Dmg/Rchg(33), Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(33), Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(34), Dam%(34)
Level 35: Shield Charge -- Dmg(A), Acc/Rchg(36), Dmg/Rchg(36), Acc/Dmg/Rchg(36), Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(37), %Dam(37)
Level 38: Weave -- Def/EndRdx(A), Def(39), Def/EndRdx(39), Def/EndRdx/Rchg(39)
Level 41: Char -- Acc/Hold(A), Acc/Rchg(42), Rchg/Hold(42), EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(42), Acc/EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(43), %Hold(43)
Level 44: Fire Blast -- Acc/Dmg(A), Dmg/EndRdx(45), Dmg/Rchg(45), Acc/Dmg/Rchg(45), Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(46), Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(46)
Level 47: Fire Ball -- Acc/Dmg(A), Dmg/EndRdx(48), Dmg/Rchg(48), Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(48), Dmg/EndRdx/Rng(50)
Level 49: Grant Cover -- EndRdx-I(A)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Acc-I(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Stlth(A)
Level 2: Rest -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 1: Critical Hit
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Random AT Generation!
"I remember... the Alamo." -- Pee-wee Herman
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"Telescopes are time machines." -- Carl Sagan
Mids doesn't seem to take into account the def buff for Phalanx fighting. If you got these numbers in Mids you actually need to add 3.75% (from memory) to all positions.
OOPS just checked and it does, sure it never used to !
When designing my DM/Shields I was working on the fact that Phalanx fighting def buff wasn't in Mids, on the basis that it is Shields is incredibly hard to softcap.
I'm getting numbers similar to Uni and in order to do that I need to drop the Hami's used for DDR.
I'm seen various people saying that their /Shield has soft cap to all positions and DDR capped and others quoting capped Def and perma Hasten.
Based on what I can get out of Mids soft capping is hard enough let alone DDR or having room for LoTG +Recharge etc.
Has anyone got a build with capped def and DDR with Hamis?
L50s: Tanks: Cryofission - Ice/EM - Dr Celsius - Fire/Ice - Saint George - SD/SS | Controllers: Psichosis - Ill/Kin - Major Chaos - Ill/Stm | Scrappers - Neutron Crusader - DM/SR
Currently Levelling: Angelic Blade - BS/WP Scrapper | Seeds of Destruction - Plant/Kin Controller
Stop it Soul Drain & Against All Odds. Leave me in peace.
Started a DM/SD today.
L50s: Tanks: Cryofission - Ice/EM - Dr Celsius - Fire/Ice - Saint George - SD/SS | Controllers: Psichosis - Ill/Kin - Major Chaos - Ill/Stm | Scrappers - Neutron Crusader - DM/SR
Currently Levelling: Angelic Blade - BS/WP Scrapper | Seeds of Destruction - Plant/Kin Controller