We don't get them because those are unique costume parts. You don't want to be a copycat, do you?
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It seems to be an unfortunate rule in MMO's that all the really cool stuff is limited to NPCs..
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Originally Posted by Primantiss
It seems to be an unfortunate rule in MMO's that all the really cool stuff is limited to NPCs..
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I support this suggestion.
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Demand? And when your demands aren't met? No offense but who are you to be making demands? Someone who pays to play this game like everyone else? Well, I pay the same as you, can I demand that my toon can kill Manticore and then take his place? He'd be a shape shifter, so no one would ever know, but then I could run around Paragon as Manticore all I wanted.|
Originally Posted by Mr_Wuffles
But I DEMAND we get those capes accessible, they're just too cool to let go to waste!
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OK, I'm done picking on you now, and going to actually address this suggestion.
Are the capes cool? Absolutely! Of course that's subjective, but I agree with you on that point. Also on the point that I've love to be able to use those style of capes. BUT, those capes are signatures of those NPCs. Like BAB's gloves, Manticore's headgear, Black Scorion's Tail... hell his whole armor, and Lord Recluse's spider arms.
The devs know we want these things, and for some of them, they give us something close to, but not quite the same. For Statesman's cape, we get the 'Over the shoulder' model, that can be used on any character who has unlocked capes at or after lvl 20. For Recluse's spider arms, VEAT Soldier's who choose Crab Spider get the crab spider backpack.
This is so those items on the signature characters stay unique to them, so they are definitely not going to waste.
While I won't it will never happen, since I'm not a dev, but I wouldn't hold my breath for it either.
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Nothing of the sort. We have plenty of cool items that NPCs don't use, but because we have them, we take them for granted. This is kind of like the tale of the goose that laid the golden eggs. We have many cool costume pieces to use, but we ant THEIRS for no reason other than because we can't have them.
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Originally Posted by Primantiss
It seems to be an unfortunate rule in MMO's that all the really cool stuff is limited to NPCs..
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Originally Posted by Arcanaville
Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.
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It would hardly be much of a copy just to have the same type of cape, it's not like the costumes would look identicle :P|
Originally Posted by CapnGeist
We don't get them because those are unique costume parts. You don't want to be a copycat, do you?
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Personally I find those NPCs aren't great enough to deserve their own unique cape style. Sure Statesman is the face of CoH, but I've always found him to be dull and not exactly a unique hero in any way. Same goes for Imperious, I've seen that guy get floored on an ITF more times than I can count! And the Honoree.... okay I'll give the devs that one, he's cool.
Honestly i don't -like- Statesman. There's no reason to like him. He's the most popular hero because he's the most popular hero. That's all there is to it. It's written into the Canon, ergo it must be true.
As for taking the Unique Costume pieces from the Signature Characters: No thank you.
I like Statesman's Cape and Hero-1's cape is -fantastic-. Libby's belt is sweet and everything on Mirror Spirit is gorgeous. But they're signature pieces to make those heroes unique in all the world. Why? So that players cannot impersonate them completely.
Mind you, I can make a really good Liberty or Psyche. I can even do a fairly decent Swan, if I've the mind to do so. But I can't perfectly emulate them. It's the idea that our heroes are unique. We aren't -really- as someone could make a costume identical to our own at any give n time. But with the number of costume pieces and people's varied tastes it's incredibly unlikely to happen.
Making a perfect copy of Statesman on the other hand... Well among other things you've got the Grief issue. A player pretends to be Positron and goes out cursing, sending lewd tells, and performing other nasty and rude acts in his name. Now the Developer is likely going to get into a spot of trouble for this, whether he did it or not. And even if it comes out that he DIDN'T do it some portion of the playerbase that heard the first story by word of mouth without going to the forums and learning it was faked will, forever, believe that Positron cursed out some 6 year old girl and should be on the next "To Catch a Predator" Chris Hansen tosses out.
So let's -Not- release all the unique NPC costume parts, HMmm?
-Rachel-
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Said nothing about ALL the unique parts, just those capes =P
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Originally Posted by Steampunkette
Honestly i don't -like- Statesman. There's no reason to like him. He's the most popular hero because he's the most popular hero. That's all there is to it. It's written into the Canon, ergo it must be true.
As for taking the Unique Costume pieces from the Signature Characters: No thank you. I like Statesman's Cape and Hero-1's cape is -fantastic-. Libby's belt is sweet and everything on Mirror Spirit is gorgeous. But they're signature pieces to make those heroes unique in all the world. Why? So that players cannot impersonate them completely. Mind you, I can make a really good Liberty or Psyche. I can even do a fairly decent Swan, if I've the mind to do so. But I can't perfectly emulate them. It's the idea that our heroes are unique. We aren't -really- as someone could make a costume identical to our own at any give n time. But with the number of costume pieces and people's varied tastes it's incredibly unlikely to happen. Making a perfect copy of Statesman on the other hand... Well among other things you've got the Grief issue. A player pretends to be Positron and goes out cursing, sending lewd tells, and performing other nasty and rude acts in his name. Now the Developer is likely going to get into a spot of trouble for this, whether he did it or not. And even if it comes out that he DIDN'T do it some portion of the playerbase that heard the first story by word of mouth without going to the forums and learning it was faked will, forever, believe that Positron cursed out some 6 year old girl and should be on the next "To Catch a Predator" Chris Hansen tosses out. So let's -Not- release all the unique NPC costume parts, HMmm? -Rachel- |
Should I go "Slippery Slope" or not...?
Naaaaaaaaaaaah!
-Rachel-
They are called Signature Characters for a reason, and that includes their costume pieces.
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Yes, but if you get to ask for those capes, someone else can ask for the other unique parts. And if you get what you want, why can't they? Try to look beyond getting just what you want, and see how it will affect the entire game.
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Originally Posted by Mr_Wuffles
Said nothing about ALL the unique parts, just those capes =P
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Originally Posted by Steampunkette
Honestly i don't -like- Statesman. There's no reason to like him. He's the most popular hero because he's the most popular hero. That's all there is to it. It's written into the Canon, ergo it must be true.
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To be fair, none of the heroes really get fleshed out in game play except maybe Ms. Liberty. I admit that I don't actively like Statesman either, but I also don't dislike him because the canon we see is of a Statesman who does nothing but get kidnapped (once by Tyrant, once by Recluse) and fight as part of the full team. Oh, and he'll send you off to do his dirty work and stop Lord Recluse while doing nothing to help. At least Imperious joins you in the charge, and most of the Phalanx and Vindicators show up as Heroes in random redside missions.
Statesman barely exists in-game, and that's just not cool.
I hear in DCUO Superman will fly around and respond to trouble whenever a crime is committed. That should be cool. Maybe Statesman needs to stop sitting around and Patrol Peregrine Island, smashing whatever villains he finds.
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As a D.C. Universe fan, it's considered a big no no when comparing Superman with another super titan hero like Statesman.. |
Originally Posted by CapnGeist
To be fair, none of the heroes really get fleshed out in game play except maybe Ms. Liberty. I admit that I don't actively like Statesman either, but I also don't dislike him because the canon we see is of a Statesman who does nothing but get kidnapped (once by Tyrant, once by Recluse) and fight as part of the full team. Oh, and he'll send you off to do his dirty work and stop Lord Recluse while doing nothing to help. At least Imperious joins you in the charge, and most of the Phalanx and Vindicators show up as Heroes in random redside missions.
Statesman barely exists in-game, and that's just not cool. I hear in DCUO Superman will fly around and respond to trouble whenever a crime is committed. That should be cool. Maybe Statesman needs to stop sitting around and Patrol Peregrine Island, smashing whatever villains he finds. |
Mainly because one Superman would pwn States in a second.. and two States is busy getting people to do his dirty work, or rescue his stupid self everytime he get's caught by Tyrant.. or he has people go to Grandville and take care of Recluse for him.
~sighs~
Although I would love to have some of the pieces, like GW's gloves.. those are unique and yet most of the widows have those gloves, so it's not really limited to just one type of character or npc, it's basically limited..
although during Hero con or Comic Con when ever you go there and see the CoH Booth, they'll have special code cards to allow you to get certain npc's, like for example: Hero-Corps hard suit, Freakshow Tanker, and a Carnie.
And plus for those who is on the Veteran program can get signature chest emblems.
So I would say that being able to have these things would be awesome [I really would like to have those robes that the Oracle's wear] but I don't think those goodies would come to us anytime soon.
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Originally Posted by WindsOfFate
Well the Devs identify so strongly with their particular heroes, they want to keep em special. I for one think we are far more special than those Freedom Phalanx chumps.
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Originally Posted by Mr_Wuffles
But I DEMAND
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I think the reason States isn't featured in the game more is because he was associated with Jack Emmert, and ol' Jack is persona non grata around here nowadays.
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Originally Posted by CapnGeist
To be fair, none of the heroes really get fleshed out in game play except maybe Ms. Liberty. I admit that I don't actively like Statesman either, but I also don't dislike him because the canon we see is of a Statesman who does nothing but get kidnapped (once by Tyrant, once by Recluse) and fight as part of the full team. Oh, and he'll send you off to do his dirty work and stop Lord Recluse while doing nothing to help. At least Imperious joins you in the charge, and most of the Phalanx and Vindicators show up as Heroes in random redside missions.
Statesman barely exists in-game, and that's just not cool. I hear in DCUO Superman will fly around and respond to trouble whenever a crime is committed. That should be cool. Maybe Statesman needs to stop sitting around and Patrol Peregrine Island, smashing whatever villains he finds. |
http://paragonwiki.com/wiki/Super_Booster_II:_Magic
http://paragonwiki.com/wiki/Valkyrie_Costume_Pieces
There. Cool capes.
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We will honor the past, and fight to the last, it will be a good way to die...
Slightly off topic but, since someone mentioned Mirror Spirit;
Go and take a look at her.
I meant really take a look at her.
Notice the level of detail. Notice the more realistic face. Notice the...well, the sheer incredible attention to detail in that model
Statesman and the rest make me shrug. Mirror Spirit? Envious; I has it.
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Originally Posted by Zwillinger
GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.
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Originally Posted by Captain_Photon
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I've said it a thousand times to anyone who'll listen and I'll say it again! The Honoree, Imperious and Statesman have FAR cooler capes than the ones we get! Why on earth can't we unlock their style of cape? It could be done as a mission at level 50, the sign of true awesomeness or whatever. But I DEMAND we get those capes accessible, they're just too cool to let go to waste!