Is Dark Pit + Oppressive Gloom any good?


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Both are a mag 2 disorient, so if I use Dark Pit and stay in melee range it should stun most if not all lieutenants and minions, right?

Also, how much does Power Build Up increase holds? Will it raise EM Pulse from a mag 3 to 4, or 6, or what?


 

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I can't answer your second question as I've never used it.

However, I have both Dark Pit and Oppressive Gloom on my D3 and I love them to bits. You'll need to slot Dark Pit up to make it effective (I six slotted mine) and maybe get some global accuracy in there, but it works. Firing off Dark Pit after the debuffs, then running into melee so that I can use Soul Drain, OG stacks with DP and keeps the aggro off of me while I drain the suckers of their life force. Then back out to blast them with normally a +100% damage buff.

On their own, they can be fairly 'meh' powers but together, they make a nice combination.


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I think Power Build Up increase duration but not magnitude. I may be mistaken about this though. My impression is it works like a turbo-sized version of set bonus IOS that provide minor boosts to mezz effectiveness.


 

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Both are a mag 2 disorient, so if I use Dark Pit and stay in melee range it should stun most if not all lieutenants and minions, right?
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Also, how much does Power Build Up increase holds? Will it raise EM Pulse from a mag 3 to 4, or 6, or what?
No. Nothing in the game increases the mag of mez. power build up/power boost simply increases the duration of whatever the mez is.


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Both are a mag 2 disorient, so if I use Dark Pit and stay in melee range it should stun most if not all lieutenants and minions, right?
And bosses. I use the combination on my TA/Dark/Dark when I'm facing particularly difficult bosses, or Rikti Mesmerists. Works quite well.

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Also, how much does Power Build Up increase holds? Will it raise EM Pulse from a mag 3 to 4, or 6, or what?
Power Build Up doesn't increase magnitude, it increases duration. A mag 3 Hold will be mag 3 even when boosted by PBU (or any similar power).


 

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Thanks for the answers. I just needed to know if EM Pulse would hold bosses after PBU but I don't really need it to anyway.

A mag 4 stun will stun bosses? That will be useful. I'm trying to get to the point where I can solo mobs on large teams, because I love just jumping into a mob and destroying it when my team is standing around for no apparent reason.


 

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I think everyone has pretty much answered your questions but one thing to consider is going Storm/Dark/Dark Defender. This has a rather nice combo of Dark Pit, Thunderclap and Oppressive Gloom. Dark Pit and Thunderclap will stun everything and Oppressive Gloom will keep them that way.


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No. Nothing in the game increases the mag of mez. power build up/power boost simply increases the duration of whatever the mez is.
Domination does increase the magnitude of mez, but you can only get Domination on a Dominator.


 

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I think everyone has pretty much answered your questions but one thing to consider is going Storm/Dark/Dark Defender. This has a rather nice combo of Dark Pit, Thunderclap and Oppressive Gloom. Dark Pit and Thunderclap will stun everything and Oppressive Gloom will keep them that way.
That does sound like it would be pretty awesome, but this isn't a build I'm planning, it's a character who's already level 44. And I asked instead of just trying it because I don't have Dark Pit.

But thanks for the tip.


 

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Domination does increase the magnitude of mez, but you can only get Domination on a Dominator.
Also the Controller 'Overpower' effect. Because, you know, having only one AT perk is for losers.


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Thanks for the answers. I just needed to know if EM Pulse would hold bosses after PBU but I don't really need it to anyway.
EMP has a 50% chance of holding a boss anyway, but PBU won't increase it. It will increase the duration of the hold (if it happens) and the Endurance lost though. I'm not sure if it's enough to completely drain a bosses End pool or not.


 

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Domination does increase the magnitude of mez, but you can only get Domination on a Dominator.
Actually it doesn't. It applies another copy of the exact same power for a shorter duration. It has the same net result, but it technically is not increasing the magnitude.

Overpower (the controller ability) does increase magnitude by 1. But it is not a reliable increase.

Also, in the case of Holds, the Lockdown proc will increase magnitude by 2, but it is a chance to, so also not reliable.


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Actually it doesn't. It applies another copy of the exact same power for a shorter duration. It has the same net result, but it technically is not increasing the magnitude.
Actually, if you want to get technical, the power itself checks for the domination tag on you and then applies a separate mez effect of a longer duration with the same mag (at least, that's what City of Data says, it might be out of date). It's still the single power (which is why the additional duration and damage can be enhanced) doing all of the work, just like Overpower is an ingrained part of Controller powers.