Life begins at 50?


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So I hit 50 for the first time last night. I've been playing since early 2005, but sadly there is no "services to altoholism" badge.

I was taken with the elegance of it; I was doing the last mission of "Upon the Psychic Plane", the last arc I hadn't finished, and exited the mission still 49th. Phoned it in, got the arc reward, and *pow*.

Now I can get down to some serious badging!

However, the question is this. I've been carefully bringing all my IOs up to 50th, but it struck me I'm likely to spend much of the rest of my time on this toon exemplared - I've no interest in grinding the ITF for purples until I have to pay someone to come by and dust me. Given the shallowness of the IO effectiveness curve, should I actually be targetting 40 or so (more, cheaper, sets available at 40, for one thing) to maintain more set bonuses when exemplared? I'm mostly Frankenslotted anyway, to be fair, which helps when exemplaring.

I know this is a bit of an "it depends" question but I'd still like to hear what people think.


 

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I like to go with level 35 IOs, really. That way, you can exemplar down pretty far, and still have set bonuses active.


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No, see, you go with as many purples as possible--that way you never lose those crazy set bonuses.


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It depends a lot on what you want to do, personally I would say that 33 is the "optimal" in terms of being better than SOs but keeping bonuses when exemplering down to a multiple of 5 (which most TFs do). If you run the Moofire TF a lot then 30/31s are better.

That being said the enhancement supply in the mid-levels tends to be pretty low so I'd recommend taking the 30-33 range when possible or the 34-38 range if you can't get it in 30-33.


 

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BTW, that was my poorly worded attempt at saying, "Purples aren't as expensive as you think."


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Originally Posted by DumpleBerry View Post
BTW, that was my poorly worded attempt at saying, "Purples aren't as expensive as you think."
I have had two drop so far. If I had sold them both (I used one), they would have fetched 190 million. Of course everything's cheaper to buy if you're patient, which I am, but even so... presently, if the other one hasn't sold yet, I've got about 160 million. I lack any inclination to grind them out at even a conservative 50 million a pop.

Looking at the Wiki, hm - the elbow in the IO effectiveness graph is at 26th! I remembered it being around 35th. Maybe I should be reworking myself around 33rd level IOs.

ETA: of course, I could look closely at which set bonuses I don't mind losing, like those 4% reduction in sleep duration (I'm a scrapper), and then keep some IOs at 50th for maximum effectiveness. I see a fresh page in the notebook looming...


 

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Originally Posted by Aett_Thorn View Post
I like to go with level 35 IOs, really. That way, you can exemplar down pretty far, and still have set bonuses active.
I like a mixture of purples, mid 30's level sets, some lvl 50 set, and as low as I can get them special proclike ones myself.


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I usually don't worry about set bonuses when exemped. I look at it like this: I didn't have them when I really WAS that level, why should I need them now?

As such, I shoot for max level IOs, because I lack the patience to potentially wait for WEEKS for a level 33 Touch of Death Chance for NE Damage to drop. (as an example)


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My advice to you is to spend LOTS of time in the Shadow Shard. Not running the missions, but exploring the shard itself and hunting enemies. Why? Because not only is the scenery beautiful and weird, but the enemies all have a chance to drop purples. And you don't have to exemplar and lose powers.


 

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Originally Posted by Thunderforce View Post
So I hit 50 for the first time last night. I've been playing since early 2005, but sadly there is no "services to altoholism" badge.

I was taken with the elegance of it; I was doing the last mission of "Upon the Psychic Plane", the last arc I hadn't finished, and exited the mission still 49th. Phoned it in, got the arc reward, and *pow*.

Now I can get down to some serious badging!

However, the question is this. I've been carefully bringing all my IOs up to 50th, but it struck me I'm likely to spend much of the rest of my time on this toon exemplared - I've no interest in grinding the ITF for purples until I have to pay someone to come by and dust me. Given the shallowness of the IO effectiveness curve, should I actually be targetting 40 or so (more, cheaper, sets available at 40, for one thing) to maintain more set bonuses when exemplared? I'm mostly Frankenslotted anyway, to be fair, which helps when exemplaring.

I know this is a bit of an "it depends" question but I'd still like to hear what people think.
First off Gratz its a long time since 2005 and glad i finnally dinged.


I suggest since u seem to run low level stuff a lot to slot your powers as yu get them to the appropriate levels.

example if you play below 40 mostly use a miracle in there and not a numinas set for the bonuses.

If for example you have resist sets dont use an aegis(also cause the bonuses are Ehh) use something lower than 40s or even into the 30s like the steadfast for te bonuses.


 

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Originally Posted by Westley View Post
My advice to you is to spend LOTS of time in the Shadow Shard. Not running the missions, but exploring the shard itself and hunting enemies. Why? Because not only is the scenery beautiful and weird, but the enemies all have a chance to drop purples. And you don't have to exemplar and lose powers.
I really mean it when I say I lack the temperament to grind purples. It took me a little while to figure out General Hammond was giving repeatable missions; for all that the SS is extremely pretty, I've street swept as many Rularuu as I ever want to. I'd like some real missions in the SS, but there aren't any.


 

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Originally Posted by ClawsandEffect View Post
I usually don't worry about set bonuses when exemped. I look at it like this: I didn't have them when I really WAS that level, why should I need them now?
I think it's more that I might as well have them. I've got two options to replace the existing mishmosh of forty-somethings; bid on everything at level 50 , or bid on some at 50 and some at 33. The latter isn't really more work.

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As such, I shoot for max level IOs, because I lack the patience to potentially wait for WEEKS for a level 33 Touch of Death Chance for NE Damage to drop. (as an example)
Well, again, I don't mind leaving bids lying around for a while - I realise this isn't so easy for everyone, depending on what other market activity they're doing - so I don't see this as a serious issue. Of course the supply is much better at 50, but from my experience on the way up, once you get down to 33, prices are pretty reasonable and demand isn't that high either. Most of my Mako's Bite: Chance For Wedgie are around 28-35 - I bid on a bunch and took whatever filled.


 

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I go with level 35 as my target for IOs to help exemplar down. Below that you're generally pretty buff enough without bonuses anyway.

However, I disagree with your original premise. I have a toon that, has well over 1000 hours of play time on him. He's level 50. He's purpled and PVP'd to the gills. I run ITFs and Kahns and LGTFs and STFs as frequently as my real life allows. I just enjoy playing that toon. If I see a sister psyche starting, and I have the time... I have 6-8 toons I could throw at that TF... but one does it better and more ejoyably then the others, so that's who I bring. It's actually quite fun to forget about leveling and aquiring influence and to just say, "what's going on tonight?" and go be Shred Monkey with whoever is willing to throw me the first invite.


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It's actually quite fun to forget about leveling and aquiring influence and to just say, "what's going on tonight?" and go be Shred Monkey with whoever is willing to throw me the first invite.
I never really mind too much about that anyway. Since running no-XP came in, I've run every TF no-XP, for example.


 

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Originally Posted by ClawsandEffect View Post
I usually don't worry about set bonuses when exemped. I look at it like this: I didn't have them when I really WAS that level, why should I need them now?

As such, I shoot for max level IOs, because I lack the patience to potentially wait for WEEKS for a level 33 Touch of Death Chance for NE Damage to drop. (as an example)
I had them when I was that level. And I still have them at 50. Works out great. The best thing about level 30-35 IOs is that you can get them really easy at level 30 to 35 by cashing in tickets and merits. Funny thing that.

Then not only do you get to use them all the way to 50, but after 50, when you exemplar back down, you still get to use them.

You should try it.


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Originally Posted by GavinRuneblade View Post
I had them when I was that level. And I still have them at 50. Works out great. The best thing about level 30-35 IOs is that you can get them really easy at level 30 to 35 by cashing in tickets and merits. Funny thing that.

Then not only do you get to use them all the way to 50, but after 50, when you exemplar back down, you still get to use them.

You should try it.
Why? I'm just fine without them. I'm not going to spend the time building up the cash to buy stuff at that level when I can spend it running missions instead.

I shoot for max level stuff because I usually don't have the money to buy anything useful until then.

Since I don't feel like I need set bonuses (aside form a KB prtection on a few characters) I'm not going out of my way to get them until I have the time to work on acquiring them. I buy level 35 IOs at level 32 and start saving up for the higher level set bonuses I want to get. It works just fine for me and I haven't seen any convincing reason to alter my approach.


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Why? I'm just fine without them. I'm not going to spend the time building up the cash to buy stuff at that level when I can spend it running missions instead.
I didn't find I had to - with even a little thought about sale prices, the money comes in faster than bidding on sensible IOs can use it up. And certainly I won't spend time to build up cash on any other toon - I'll transfer a chunk across and have done with it.