fire/regen or fire/fire scrap?

What one is better? I know regen is god of scrappers, but with /fire GFS + BU+ fiery embrace = 1000 dmg so? lol what one is better? already have a fire/regen lvl 25

I've never played /Fire so I wouldn't know how it plays but I love my fire/regen

Fire/regen is by far the better of the two. /fire can work, but regen is much better.

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ok goood I just spent alot of time on my fire/regen lol but I cant seem to find a build.. i dont really care for IOs yet cause im cheap an it will be awile so SOs till then but I am reallly having trouble with picking my powers that i want.. so does any1 have a good build?

fire/fire is the better squishy killer but for that 10% better offense you give up 50% survivability. You are also locked into phase with a fire/fire if you don't want to purp/pvp IO out. My fire/fire is my favorite toon but no scrap secondary can come close to regen.

Dimishing returns. Don't understand it? Welcome to the club.

PvErs love diminishing returns too.

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Back on topic
I have both a fire/regen and a fire fire scrapper at 50
Both have decent pvp build and a purples in GFS

The fire/fire does more damage
I will post numbers in next post ( not at home computer)
It is not a huge difference , but about 10% more

The big difference is in the DURATION of the damage boost
By alternating BU/FE/BU I can maintaine 40 sec of damage boost
FE does not Inc accuracy but the boost is bigger

/fire does have a heal hit it when less than 50% hit phase run away heal again in 15 sec, wait for FE to recharge go back at it
Fairly hard to kill unless ganged up on

The /regin has regen at 800% or 56 hp/ sec
And good rc too
So yeah near unkillable in 1 vs 1
And fire/ is good damage plus dot to keep the stalker on fire

Holy necro batman LOL.

But since its the pvp boards any bets on when it will get closed, I bet never.

Some people just don't look at original post dates....

Necro man here

I was looking for a Fire/Fire PVP build and my (weak) search fu brought this up
so I decided to do some voodoo and resurect it (mumbling,chanting,shakes rattle)

any I justflew in from RV with my Fire Fire scrapper (and boy are my arms tired)

here are some numbers (math we don't need no stinkin' math)

I picked a tarantula minion to test on (over and over again, bwahahaha)

GFS sloted with 5 hecacomb (change of neg) and CI a/d
it also has 5 x fire damge Dot I usualy get 2-4, so i went average of 3
obviously the more these are counted the larger the buff difference appears

the proc damage is not affected by BU or FE = 85.66

GFS =75.45+139.80+(19.41x3) = 273.48
GFS BU =97.58+178.43+(24.70x3) = 337.06 (17.6% boost)
GFS FE =97.58+186.13+(25.84x3) = 361.23 (24.3% boost)
GFS BU+FE=112.72+212+(29.44x3) = 409.04 (33% boost)

so BU+FE = nearly double the boost, not just a 10% better than BU alone

plus with a 30 sec recharge on BU,
BU(10 sec)>FE(10 sec boost all, 20sec to fire)>BU again gives 40 sec of constant boost

plain fire/ gets only 20 sec of boost during same period.

so if you believe damage rules survival drools,
then fire/fire is very nice burst (esp if proc and crit hit at same time) and sustained damge

of course other AT's have better burst , stalker, but they have to learn how to get off that AS, not all can do it, with that long interuptable period, from hide, etc

but I don't know stalkers, never played one past 16

arena PVP, I do not know well,
I also assume Regin would be better for long boring fite klub duel, but I have never done that either

You also didn't factor in any global resists that a player gets when entering a PvP zone or their resist armor(if they have one) etc....

Who do you think I am "Arcaniville in Rainbow spandex"?

I was just showing that by taking /fire you get a significant damage boost , esp if you take fire/

yes when I hit the Fire tarantula the damage was less than the plain tarantula, but the extra boost still made killing it quicker than without, and that is the point

I assume anyone who reads this (that would about 3 other people max) would assume fire resist would be part of the rock paper scissors of PVP

Survival in zone was not a problem since /fire with tough gets 50-63% resist including toxic and psi, whicj gives me time to hit the fast activating self heal, with phase is nice escape.

BTW Psyrene, I use one of your posted builds for my Psy/EM and it rocks, Thank you