One Time...and One Time Only! Bayani Meets Thor's Assassin
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Bayani,
Posted on: 2010-01-16 18:04 in Multi-Media Fan Creations
Wahahaahah! I'm sure TA will get a kick out of this!
Hey, he's not in a tutu for this one ^.^
Wow, that's just an awesome piece.
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Hahaha, classic!
**wonders aloud what the knee pads and soda cans might be used for in combat** 
@Wassy I'm thinking the jokes on Bayani more than on TA in this one... like this is Bayani if TA had his way about it.
Spidey 611 for those who haven't seen it yet.
I love the 'WTF' look on Bayani's face. And the soda cans!
LOL
Priceless.
One small thing Bayani...
the flap of material at the peak of TA's hood is on the side of his head...
it should be on the back of his head or the hood looks crooked.
/end nitpick
LOLS!...makes me think of what Bayani would look like if Rob Liefeld got a hold of him. (this is somewhat of an inside joke, but for those of you that don't know Rob...he was HUGE in the early to mid-90's and more or less fell out of favor as fast as he rose...and he was notorious for "gadgets and excessive gear" for all his costumes. The most funny being gun designs that look like vacuum cleaners or mysterious gun stocks popping out from behind the shoulders with no guns attached...lols. He did establish the look for Cable from the X-Men, but that's not Cable's fault. )
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Originally Posted by ChristopherRobin
One small thing Bayani...
the flap of material at the peak of TA's hood is on the side of his head... it should be on the back of his head or the hood looks crooked. /end nitpick |
CR shall no longer stand for Christopher Robin in my mind...it shall now stand for (overly) "Critical Replies"
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*pats JK on the head* Its not really an inside joke, dearie. The majority of people here are aware of Liefeld, and that is the point of the joke that this piece is an homage of. CR linked to it above there ^.^
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Originally Posted by Johnnykat
LOLS!...makes me think of what Bayani would look like if Rob Liefeld got a hold of him. (this is somewhat of an inside joke, but for those of you that don't know Rob...he was HUGE in the early to mid-90's and more or less fell out of favor as fast as he rose...and he was notorious for "gadgets and excessive gear" for all his costumes. The most funny being gun designs that look like vacuum cleaners or mysterious gun stocks popping out from behind the shoulders with no guns attached...lols. He did establish the look for Cable from the X-Men, but that's not Cable's fault.
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Originally Posted by Johnnykat
LOLS!...makes me think of what Bayani would look like if Rob Liefeld got a hold of him. (this is somewhat of an inside joke, but for those of you that don't know Rob...he was HUGE in the early to mid-90's and more or less fell out of favor as fast as he rose...and he was notorious for "gadgets and excessive gear" for all his costumes. The most funny being gun designs that look like vacuum cleaners or mysterious gun stocks popping out from behind the shoulders with no guns attached...lols. He did establish the look for Cable from the X-Men, but that's not Cable's fault.
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What a great piece Bayani! Grats!
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I've always figured that in a comic book world any two characters can interact easily enough, at least on a short term basis... Heck, some of the best teams ups are major powers with what are, at least technically, minor powers. Prime example may be superman and batman... Though bats can go up against anyone he technically is a minor in the power level category...
As for storylines, unless two inhabit totally different spheres, it would almost be inevitable for them to cross paths. Sure, maybe one is there to wipe out the whole evil lair and the other just wants to sneak in and grab evidence but almost any pairing can be worked out.
Anyway, as for the art... Nice stuff there! I'm not a huge fan of the "zoinks" brand of comedy art but used sparingly it can be real effective.
Though I do think instead of soda the cans should have been Red Bull or some other energy drink 
And the classic, "guns without perspective." Nice. :3
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Sure, given alcohol, time ,and pot, any writer could come up with a storyline that Michael Bay would turn into a movie (replete with panning shots of large, sophisticated military equipment to eat up time). |
Originally Posted by Caemgen
I've always figured that in a comic book world any two characters can interact easily enough, at least on a short term basis... Heck, some of the best teams ups are major powers with what are, at least technically, minor powers. Prime example may be superman and batman... Though bats can go up against anyone he technically is a minor in the power level category...
As for storylines, unless two inhabit totally different spheres, it would almost be inevitable for them to cross paths. Sure, maybe one is there to wipe out the whole evil lair and the other just wants to sneak in and grab evidence but almost any pairing can be worked out. |
The thing is, this version of Bayani I've worked on over the past five odd years is tailor-fitted to mesh into City of Heroes' canon. I think if you review Thor's Assassin's wiki you could consider him to be practically in a different sphere at this point. Batman/Superman are in the same universe (the DC one) with a (somewhat) consistent set of "rules" that apply to everyone. As the creator of Bayani, I didn't feel there was any way I could see/write/participate/approve of a story involving a "real" encounter between the two characters. This particular picture was more satirical than anything else and works for me because of that. The direction I've been trying to stick to with my gallery is to collect images that would build Bayani's story/universe.
Must admit, I've only skimmed TA's wiki... Keep meaning to tacle it but never gotten to it yet.
But ya, that's why I mentioned different spheres... He'll, even the Marvel/DC crossovers sucked.
Anyway, never meant to imply that I didn't get where your coming from... Just that if one tries hard enough (and indeed partakes of drink and sole liberally) one can make anything work. If they should or not is a different question...
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Lols...pats me on the head...um, ok kiddo. But, he simply pointed out a "homage" shot reference which itself was an homage shot that was not actually referenced. So ya, I didn't want to assume people knew (you know what they say about assumptions)...and it's scary to think about how many people here were not even able to read in 1990. |
Originally Posted by Wassy
*pats JK on the head* Its not really an inside joke, dearie. The majority of people here are aware of Liefeld, and that is the point of the joke that this piece is an homage of. CR linked to it above there ^.^
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There's always the "What If..." Marvel series that could theoretically justify this...I mean if Howard the Duck and the X-Men could team-up...just sayin'. |
Originally Posted by Bayani
Sure, given alcohol, time ,and pot, any writer could come up with a storyline that Michael Bay would turn into a movie (replete with panning shots of large, sophisticated military equipment to eat up time).
The thing is, this version of Bayani I've worked on over the past five odd years is tailor-fitted to mesh into City of Heroes' canon. I think if you review Thor's Assassin's wiki you could consider him to be practically in a different sphere at this point. Batman/Superman are in the same universe (the DC one) with a (somewhat) consistent set of "rules" that apply to everyone. As the creator of Bayani, I didn't feel there was any way I could see/write/participate/approve of a story involving a "real" encounter between the two characters. This particular picture was more satirical than anything else and works for me because of that. The direction I've been trying to stick to with my gallery is to collect images that would build Bayani's story/universe. |
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*pats JK on the head* Heh lol.... that is soooooooo not an inside joke around here. It comes up often and there are even entire threads devoted to the subject of RL. Seriously|
Originally Posted by Wassy
*pats JK on the head* Its not really an inside joke, dearie. The majority of people here are aware of Liefeld, and that is the point of the joke that this piece is an homage of. CR linked to it above there ^.^
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Originally Posted by Johnnykat
CR shall no longer stand for Christopher Robin in my mind...it shall now stand for (overly) "Critical Replies" |
...which by the way could just as easily stand for Obsessive Compulsive Responses...
or... Often Completely Right
All joking aside while I don't know Bayani personally that well yet I do know he wants nothing but the best for his gallery and if little things can be caught and corrected before he has to commission another (Swany?) artist to come back in and correct the mistakes the OA made, well, I think he might be ok with it.
Also if you actually look at the picture and what I'm saying about it (rather than the fact it's usually just me with the cojones to point this stuff out) I'm not wrong here.
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Originally Posted by Caemgen
Must admit, I've only skimmed TA's wiki... Keep meaning to tacle it but never gotten to it yet.
But ya, that's why I mentioned different spheres... He'll, even the Marvel/DC crossovers sucked. Anyway, never meant to imply that I didn't get where your coming from... Just that if one tries hard enough (and indeed partakes of drink and sole liberally) one can make anything work. If they should or not is a different question... |
I think one of the other ways Bayani and TA are in "different spheres" (but no one is coming out directly and saying it) is that Bayani truly is seeking to have the very best gallery... top flight works by the best people he can get his hands on... it's probably has a lot to do with why he kindly rebuffs any attempts at gift art or "surprises" that don't have his consent prior... that way he doesn't feel obligated to showcase something that is not the very best available (I'm guessing here, by all means correct me if I'm wrong Bayani).
While TA on the other hand will kindly let anyone try to draw his OC.
Really anyone at all (even if it lands him in the occasional tutu and nipple tassles) and he will be appreciative of all their works and proudly showcase and support their efforts no matter what.
Neither way is right or wrong... they are just two different ways of going about building a
to be proud of...Or maybe this is just me being OCR again.
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Originally Posted by ChristopherRobin
Or maybe this is just me being OCR again. |
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Heh, pretty much my sentiment. There's good fan fiction out there...and though it's usually the bad ones that get alot of attention. If I can't "see" a good story/premise for an encounter between my characters and someone else's...I'm not going to try to force the issue. There's plenty of other stuff (pr0n) to share over the net.|
Originally Posted by ChristopherRobin
The way I see it your pretty much on target buddy... some crossovers work, many totally suck... anything can be "made" to work... just because you can doesn't mean you should... etc *nods* |
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All joking aside while I don't know Bayani personally that well yet I do know he wants nothing but the best for his gallery and if little things can be caught and corrected before he has to commission another (Swany?) artist to come back in and correct the mistakes the OA made, well, I think he might be ok with it. |
This is true. That particular flaw in the art will be corrected when it's inked. This is still technically a WIP, I just wanted to share it before someone else gets the same idea to create a parody/homage to Skottie's pic.
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Originally Posted by ChristopherRobin
I think one of the other ways Bayani and TA are in "different spheres" (but no one is coming out directly and saying it) is that Bayani truly is seeking to have the very best gallery... top flight works by the best people he can get his hands on... it's probably has a lot to do with why he kindly rebuffs any attempts at gift art or "surprises" that don't have his consent prior... that way he doesn't feel obligated to showcase something that is not the very best available (I'm guessing here, by all means correct me if I'm wrong Bayani). While TA on the other hand will kindly let anyone try to draw his OC. Really anyone at all (even if it lands him in the occasional tutu and nipple tassles) and he will be appreciative of all their works and proudly showcase and support their efforts no matter what. |
TA the Collector is a nice guy, and yes there are *alot* of differences between the way we write, present, and collect art of our characters. For reference, I've included links to the characters' profiles below. Bayani's Profile | Thor's Assassin's Wiki Page
I think this particular commission points out pretty much all the differences between us and our characters succinctly, the contrasting character designs and the different approaches to collecting the creators have. Overall, it's got "swish", because yes, there is a bit of an added jab at Liefeld. ("swish" being the sweet sound of the extra free throw after a foul on a made three-point shot in basketball, for the sports-challenged folks.
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Double post...but I wanted to also point out that the penciler, Loston Wallace is amazingly talented. Just to get an idea of how good he is...he's a former City of Heroes player and he drew that Nemesis Staff from *memory". So yeah...l33t skillz there.
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Originally Posted by Planet_Girl
Maybe that stands for "Obvious Christopher Robin."
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Obvious to Christopher Robin...
"Well you may not see it but it's clearly OCR."
@Bayani: I think RL must have him tied up as I haven't heard anything out of
TA or Sassy in weeks now...surely the FArt starting up again would get his attention?
So I don't think he is avoiding this thread per say, he just isn't posting at all.
P.S. Hey Planet Girl I was meaning to ask you, I see you in several Bayani pics,
are you of the same mind that you don't want anyone drawing your character?
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Hey that ones not half bad
Obvious to Christopher Robin... "Well you may not see it but it's clearly OCR." |
You're welcome
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P.S. Hey Planet Girl I was meaning to ask you, I see you in several Bayani pics,
are you of the same mind that you don't want anyone drawing your character? |
Yes, for the most part. PG is not nearly as well known, and thus I do not have the same problems the better-known characters around here (and their toons
) have. That said, I can be pretty critical of pieces, and prefer to have editorial powers over the, er, "situations" that PG could be placed in. I think female creations tend to get placed in more adult-themed art than I really want for PG. Yes, she is aptly named.That said, I have had a few people ask beforehand if they could draw her, and I sometimes agree.
And I still think Bayani's "costume" could inspire an "I Spy"-themed game.
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Hehe...ok ok, but to nitpick the nitpick since this seems to be spiraling already...I did say "here" as in specifically the "Screenshots and Fan Creations"...you technically only referenced one RL thread from said section. So again, it would be reasonably feasible that not all in this particular thread would know the full extent of a RL reference. Nor does exacting criticism make for a "technically" good criticism or for that matter does writing a wall of text distilling down every line stroke translate to someone having the "cojones" to write their thoughts.|
Originally Posted by ChristopherRobin
*pats JK on the head* Heh lol.... that is soooooooo not an inside joke around here. It comes up often and there are even entire threads devoted to the subject of RL. Seriously
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In other words, some people just like to hear themselves talk. Or in this case...see their own banter written down to stir the pot. Which is, I hate to say in this case, seems to be the later...because CR, if you really were practicing what you preached, you would have fixed the tang glow orange around your avatar months ago on the lower lefthand side where a darken black smudge is (around the left ear and cheek from the viewer's perspective)...just sayin'
And since your initials are CR...OCR just won't do. PS - still waiting on your critique of my work CR!
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Over the years, :Thor's Assassin has mentioned a few times that Bayani and TA need to be in a commission together. I've been rather hesitant because I just really never saw the two characters's paths intersecting due to the vast differences in their stories and power-levels. And yeah, I do like to tease TA from time to time about his costume design.
It wasn't til I picked up Amazing Spider-Man #611 that I found a perfect layout for a Bayani/TA commission. This will get inked/colored eventually, but I reeeeeeeeeeeeally wanted to put this up. Hehe. So here's the first (and only) encounter between Bayani and Thor's Assassin. Art by Loston Wallace, homage to Skottie Young's Amazing Spider-Man #611