Crazy Name Idea You'll Probably Hate


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Originally Posted by Thaumator View Post
Eh, I dunno. I would kind of like having my character names tied to global, and so would a lot of other people.
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While I have seen support for DeviousMe's position here in this thread and others - I'm not seeing a lot of support for Thaumator's position (that some folks would actually like to have globals tied to all their names)
It solves a number of issues (name purges, knowing who is in groups, allowing new customers to create their character the way they envision it,etc). It has the potential to keep new customers with minimal inpact on the existing customer base. So it would be a win-win for the developers, and for the existing customers there would be more people to play with.

To me it would be a far better thing to encourage more people to play than to worry about someone else getting "your" name. Think of the global name as a secret identity. Have the ability to hide the global name if you don't want to see the global name (it isn't as if the global name is all that hard to find anyways).

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Name 10.
Well, I would for one.

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Originally Posted by Forbin_Project View Post
Not good enough. There should be a clear and undeniable proof that the majority of subscribers want their character names tied to their globals.
When has that ever been a gauge as to what gets put into the game?




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When has that ever been a gauge as to what gets put into the game?
It's one of the factors the devs consider all the time.

We wanted weapon customization.

We wanted power customization.

We wanted power proliferation.

We wanted more character slots.

We wanted side switching (we're getting it in GR)

We told them we'd pay for costume packs.

We wanted commas in the Consignment House.

We wanted them to cancel the 60 day rule.

We wanted larger SG rosters.

We wanted a healin powerset for villains.

We wanted Shields.

We wanted Dual Pistols. (coming in GR)

We wanted the 5th Column back.




And those are just a few things off the top of my head that we wanted and the devs gave to us. Does it mean we'll get everything we ask for? HELL NO. But the devs do listen and try to give us the stuff we want as long as it doesn't screw up the game.


 

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Originally Posted by Forbin_Project View Post
Not good enough. There should be a clear and undeniable proof that the majority of subscribers want their character names tied to their globals.
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When has that ever been a gauge as to what gets put into the game?
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It's one of the factors the devs consider all the time.
It is one of the factors that everyone (or even a majority) wants a feature? No. Same goes for thinking that "a clear and undeniable proof that the majority of subscribers" want something. Given the numerous threads of this nature that have shown up in the four years that I have been playing this game, one would think that the developers would want to explore the possibility of doing something along these lines now that their competition is doing it. (Actually the same thing goes for mailing items, but that is another thread.)

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  1. We wanted weapon customization.
  2. We wanted power customization.
  3. We wanted power proliferation.
  4. We wanted more character slots.
  5. We wanted side switching (we're getting it in GR)
  6. We told them we'd pay for costume packs.
  7. We wanted commas in the Consignment House.
  8. We wanted them to cancel the 60 day rule.
  9. We wanted larger SG rosters.
  10. We wanted a healin powerset for villains.
  11. We wanted Shields.
  12. We wanted Dual Pistols. (coming in GR)
  13. We wanted the 5th Column back.
I made the above into a numbered list to respond better.

1 and 2 are the same thing for all intents. Yes, it was wanted. I don't know if it was asked for by a majority though.

Numbers 5 and 13 are something that some will use and some will not, but either way has no ill effects to anyone.

For 3, 4, 7, 8, 10, 11, 12 those are all player requests that have no down-side for players. (The developers gave us something without taking anything away.)

Number 9 actually dove-tails with this suggestion as it has been asked that the limits be taken away entirely and allow invites to groups by global names.

For 6 there is a large portion (not a majority) of player upset about the microtransactions.

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And those are just a few things off the top of my head that we wanted and the devs gave to us. Does it mean we'll get everything we ask for? HELL NO. But the devs do listen and try to give us the stuff we want as long as it doesn't screw up the game.
I did not for a moment suggest any such thing. So your entire post is a straw man.

What I had a problem with is your statement that a suggestion has to have a clearly provable majority for the developers to consider a suggestion. This suggestion has merit, despite those opposed to it.




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Your just mad because I'm right. Neener neener neener!


And just because you happen to want something doesn't mean it has merit.


 

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Given the numerous threads of this nature that have shown up in the four years that I have been playing this game, one would think that the developers would want to explore the possibility of doing something along these lines now that their competition is doing it.
Well articulated, and something I've tried to convey myself on too many occassions.

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What I had a problem with is your statement that a suggestion has to have a clearly provable majority for the developers to consider a suggestion. This suggestion has merit, despite those opposed to it.
Agreed, but unfortunately some of them haven't reached Stage 5 yet. They're currently allowing their personal feelings to cloud their judgment about improving this game as a whole.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again... Global Name Association is the next logical step in MMO evolution. It benefits new and old players alike, which in the end is a smart business move.


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Your just mad because I'm right. Neener neener neener!
I'm not mad. I'm just pointing out that you are incorrect because it never has been a criteria that a clear majority needs to be proven to the developers for them to implement a suggestion. On the other hand, if you have to resort to ad-hominems and straw men arguments, you've lost.

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And just because you happen to want something doesn't mean it has merit.
It has merit due to the fact that it is a possible solution to a problem that has existed for years.




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I just find it a bit unfair that everyone is calling people who want names that are taken
"uncreative" or "unimaginative"
Sometimes the name is just taken.
Which leaves you with your awesome idea screwed

My character Rumble's
Name both describes his Vibration-related powers and his use of them in a fisticuffs style combat and tendency to always get in brawls.

I could go a-searching for synonyms for "Vibrate" or "shake" but it'd lose the fighting connotations. I could go looking for synonyms for "Fight" or "brawl" but it would probably lose the Vibrational connotations. So I'm stuck with putting Junk (I used a period) at the end of my name to use it, or I could scrap the character altogether.
It's not a crazily overused name,(as far as I know) and it's not intended as a copy of an existing character. It's just a name I want to use, and I can't use it unscarred because it's taken by someone else, who might also be using it creatively.


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I just find it a bit unfair that everyone is calling people who want names that are taken
"uncreative" or "unimaginative"
Sometimes the name is just taken.
Which leaves you with your awesome idea screwed

My character Rumble's
Name both describes his Vibration-related powers and his use of them in a fisticuffs style combat and tendency to always get in brawls.

I could go a-searching for synonyms for "Vibrate" or "shake" but it'd lose the fighting connotations I could go looking for synonyms for "Fight" or "brawl" but it would probably lose the Vibrational connotations. So I'm stuck with putting Junk (I used a period) at the end of my name to use it, or I could scrap the character altogether.

It's not a crazily overused name,(as far as I know) and it's not intended as a copy of an existing character. It's just a name I want to use, and I can't use it unscarred because it's taken by someone else, who might also be using it creatively.
I just checked and Rrumble's, Rrumbles, and Rruummblless, is available on every server. And in my opinion adding an additional letter or two to the name gives the reader a hint that the characters powers are vibration and/or earth related as well as a brawler. It also reminds me of the visual sound effects I know and love from comic books.

Just a little creativity and imagination and the name you wanted is available.


 

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Eh, those sound kind of silly, if you ask me, and while he's a silly character, personality wise, That's a bit much.
And the name is Rumble, not Rumbles, I'm saying the name that belongs to Rumble (Rumble's name) was taken.
And honestly, That just sounds like adding junk letters or symbols again.


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...you are offering up the fact the name "Rumble" is taken as proof it's not a creativity issue...


 

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I am offering up the fact that I'm using a name in a creative way ,subtle, multifacted character aspects, to say that the Character is not simply a clone of this or that, or a one-off name I pulled out of my butt, but an inherent part of the concept, the creativity of which is debatable. What I was saying, is me not getting the right name and having to do something else with it is not me being uncreative, but Just someone else being creative in a different way that, unfortunately limits my options.
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So what I'm saying is that there are no "new" ideas under the sun, just new ways of putting them together, and that's pretty debateable. To say that someone putting together ideas, and then being displeased that an integral part of that idea is unavailable because someone else put that part together with something else is uncreative is unfair to them.

I mean, sure, we'll be seeing plenty of super-dudes running around, and that'll suck, but we get that now, people making crappy copies of existing characters will find their ways to do it. But people trying to express themselves with multiple different ideas being limited because other people had one element of their idea is unfair.

As for Solutions, I'd like to see the use of Name color for other players, I already use it in my chat window. If we could have the invisible character number thing, then have the character name colors change when multiple people with the same name were in the same zone, that'd work, there are other technical aspects involved, the afore mentioned tell and invtie issues, but it's workable.


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Eh, those sound kind of silly, if you ask me, and WHile he's a silly character, personality wise, That's a bit much.
And the name Is Rumble, nor Rumbles, I'm saying the name that belongs to Rumble (Rumble's name) was taken.
And honestly, That just sounds like adding junk letters or symbols again.


Oh his name is RUMBLE.

You can't have Rumble because it would be a copyright/trademark violation.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rumble_(Transformers)


Rumble is one of the Decepticons. He is partnered with Soundwave, Ravage, and Laserbeak.

If you did manage to get it you would find yourself getting genericed by the GM's as soon as one of the Transformer fans petitioned you for using the name.


 

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Oh his name is RUMBLE.

You can't have Rumble because it would be a copyright violation.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rumble_(Transformers)


Rumble is one of the Decepticons. He is partnered with Soundwave, Ravage, and Laserbeak.

If you did manage to get it you would find yourself getting genericed by the GM's as soon as one of the Transformer fans petitioned you for using the name.
So, in case it's not abundantly clear, even if they enabled this horrific idea of ruining our names by appending the global onto them as well, you STILL wouldn't get "Rumble".

I gotta go with the "if you can't find a name, you're not being creative enough" crowd. There's always more names. Always. I make new characters frequently, and while I've run into some names I've considered being taken a few times, I always manage to land a name I'm very happy with.


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This is over the top mental slavery.

 

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Oh his name is RUMBLE.

You can't have Rumble because it would be a copyright/trademark violation.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rumble_(Transformers)


Rumble is one of the Decepticons. He is partnered with Soundwave, Ravage, and Laserbeak.

If you did manage to get it you would find yourself getting genericed by the GM's as soon as one of the Transformer fans petitioned you for using the name.
So, a common verb is a copyright violation?
I mean, if he was a robot named Rumble, sure, but he's a human kid named after what things do when you shake them, and Transformers have lots of crazy-*** names that I'm sure people are using because once they run out of basic verbs, adjectives, and fancy greek-sounding names, they put two nouns together like Laser and beak.

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So, in case it's not abundantly clear, even if they enabled this horrific idea of ruining our names by appending the global onto them as well, you STILL wouldn't get "Rumble".

I gotta go with the "if you can't find a name, you're not being creative enough" crowd. There's always more names. Always. I make new characters frequently, and while I've run into some names I've considered being taken a few times, I always manage to land a name I'm very happy with.
Never said I agreed with the global names bit, just disagreed with people calling people who would want the option to have multiple characters wit the same names lazy or uncreative. Which is just not fair.
There's always names, certainly, but if you come up with a character who's name is all kinds of meaningful and intrinsic to the character and find out you can't use it, that really sucks, and there should be a fix to it that does'nt involve you having to completely twist it into something else that's sorta related due to semantics or whatever.
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I just checked and Rrumble's, Rrumbles, and Rruummblless, is available on every server. And in my opinion adding an additional letter or two to the name gives the reader a hint that the characters powers are vibration and/or earth related as well as a brawler. It also reminds me of the visual sound effects I know and love from comic books.

Just a little creativity and imagination and the name you wanted is available.
It's not that I Can't, it's that I'm being forcced to do something I really don't want to do.
I spend all that time coming up with my concept, and the powers and look is all done, and now I have to come up with a brand new name, that cheeses me. I don't begrudge the other person their name, but I do dislike the fact that it hurts me.
Like, okay, say you logged on for the first time ever, and you have an idea for a character that uses X power, and X costume peice being X color together. Unfortunately, someone else has that exact combination, so now you have to change the whole thing. But the game allows us to put whichever costumes and powers we want, but not names.


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So, a common verb is a copyright violation?
I mean, if he was a robot named Rumble, sure, but he's a human kid named after what things do when you shake them, and Transformers have lots of crazy-*** names that I'm sure people are using because once they run out of basic verbs, adjectives, and fancy greek-sounding names, they put two nouns together like Laser and beak.


Yes it is.

And guess who holds the Copyright/Trademark. Marvel. The same company that sued CoH over copyright violations before. And guess who owns Marvel today. DISNEY THE COPYRIGHT/TRADEMARK SUE-HAPPY COMPANY.


Suck it up and deal with it. You can't have the name.


 

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I can bet you if I went and published a story with someone named Donald who had absolutely nothing to do with ducks or speech impediments, Disney would'nt give a damn about it.
I'm not whining, the only thing I was saying is that people who feel annoyed that their names are taken, and put in periods and such ar'ent unoriginal, just being forced to do what they can to keep their original concept.


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A quick test shows Reckless Rumbler is open on Virtue and Freedom...


 

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This has what bearing on what I said?
If I wanted that name, I would pick it, but I should'nt be forced to pick it, and I should'nt be insulted if I decide to tweak a name I want slightly with punctuation or some such because I was forced not to take the name I choose.


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Yes you are whining. You are throwing a hissy-fit when we were just trying to help you find legitimate ways to get a name you wanted.







Each and every time you log into the game you agree not to use any names that violate a third party's copyright/trademarks.


 

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This has what bearing on what I said?
If I wanted that name, I would pick it, but I should'nt be forced to pick it, and I should'nt be insulted if I decide to tweak a name I want slightly with punctuation or some such because I was forced not to take the name I choose.
That depends on if you define originality as a variable state or not. If you simply are or are not original then I have shown you are not original. If you see degrees of originality then you are not original enough.


 

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Not whining, again, just because I'm debating, which Is something enjoy doing when done reasonably, does'nt mean I'm being a big baby, and what I was arguing in the first place is that people who call players who use punctuation or some such to use the characater name they want lazy or unimaginative were'tn being fair. and once again.
You can't copyright basic verbs or nouns. There are probably characters named Zoom in this game, because it's a generic word. The reason the particular name being used in this discussion is'nt available to me is probably(not going to say for sure unless a dev puts in word) not due to copyright issues,because it's a commonly used word, but because someone else has it.


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I'm not sure how adding random inaudible characters instead of thinking up an adjective is neither unoriginal nor uncreative.


 

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You can't copyright basic verbs or nouns.
Yes actually they can, because they aren't using the word as a verb or generic noun. They are using it as a proper noun also called a proper name. which are used to identify persons, places, or certain special things.

Making strawman arguments isn't debating it's trolling.


 

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RUMBLE . . .

is your basic street punk. Small, but always acting tough as a cover. Not exactly the most subtle of Soundwave's spies, but what he lacks in discretion, he makes up for by being the brawler of the group. He talks tough because he is tough. Quick-tempered and of a generally mean disposition, he follows Megatron eagerly, as the Decepticon leader lets him indulge in destruction. Rumble has a tendency to toss out a taunting rhyme at his enemies and is, according to Brawn, a "jerk" (or at other times, a "sawed-off nerd").

As the Decepticon demolitions expert, Rumble loves nothing more than to break things apart. His arms can transform into powerful piledrivers that, when pounded against the ground,cause vibrations that cause earthquakes and fissures.


And then there's your character description.

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My character Rumble's
Name both describes his Vibration-related powers and his use of them in a fisticuffs style combat and tendency to always get in brawls.

Yeah there's no similarities between the two.


 

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RUMBLE . . .

is your basic street punk. Small, but always acting tough as a cover. Not exactly the most subtle of Soundwave's spies, but what he lacks in discretion, he makes up for by being the brawler of the group. He talks tough because he is tough. Quick-tempered and of a generally mean disposition, he follows Megatron eagerly, as the Decepticon leader lets him indulge in destruction. Rumble has a tendency to toss out a taunting rhyme at his enemies and is, according to Brawn, a "jerk" (or at other times, a "sawed-off nerd").

As the Decepticon demolitions expert, Rumble loves nothing more than to break things apart. His arms can transform into powerful piledrivers that, when pounded against the ground,cause vibrations that cause earthquakes and fissures.
Now this whole thing has just gotten sad.