Nemesis?

OK, had my first mission fighting Nemesis and WTF? I have kat/sr and got eaten alive. It reminded me of my "introduction" to DE quartz. Anyone have any idea how accurate is "very accurate"? I have capped def and popping a large purple seemed to help a bit, otherwise it was like I had no defense at all. I did find it somewhat interesting that the bosses (fake nemesis) were the easiest to handle (this is the first time I had to take out minions first and save the boss for last)

The toxic patches jaegers and snipers do is auto-hit. Other than that, they have normal accuracy... I think ? It always felt like the jaeger melee attack hit more often than usual, but I never bothered to check.

Of course, there's also Vengeance everytime a lieutenant dies. Let that stack three times and it'll be like you have no defense.

Anytime you wonder about something like that, the easiest way to check is to put tohit rolls in a separate chat tab and look at it closely after the fight is done.

Nemesis, by themselves, aren't any more accurate than other mobs. Their Lieutenants, however, have an exceptionally nasty version of Vengeance. When they die, all mobs within an 80 ft radius get a stacking +30% dmg, +20% def, and +30% tohit buff. Since you have a softcapped build (45% def), a single stack of Vengeance would give you an effective 15% def. Two stacks would be -15%. Three stacks gives them DE Quarts level +tohit (90% vs 100%) and pretty much cap their tohit against you (and deal almost double damage, to boot).

I have not played an SR to the level where I'd face Nemesis, so I'm afraid I can't offer you any advice / tactics for handling them other than "kill Lieutenants last." (You'd still be in a tough spot against multiple Lieutenants, though.)

I do appreciate the responses, but I have to disagree a little. I specifically remember a room with nothing but a Fake Nemesis and a buttload of Jaegers (so no lt) and I had to make use of the elevator several times to keep from dying (I was getting hit so often I couldn't even use aid self). So at a minimum the Jaegers have some built-in +acc. Of course, I don't have any numbers to back this claim up, so I guess I'll have to put the tohit rolls in a separate chat tab. So now the question is, how do I do that?

Not sure. However, a mass of Jaegers can put you in a massive toxic cloud. Might that have been the problem?

The Jaeger machine gun attack has a 15% accuracy bonus, but at the softcap that's not much of a boost. Werfer Jaegers, as noted, create autohit toxic DoT clouds with their gas grenades.

Alternately, sometimes the RNG just hates you.

I think the cloud was the issue, which is good news. I am better informed and, therefore, better prepared for the next battle. Thanks again for all the info.

Also, don't forget. Jaegers explode when they die.

Nemesis suck, they eat me a live when I solo +2 x8. I usually kill the bosses first then SC and hope to God there aren't any left lol.

My SS/Fire eats them alive.

It's also a problem that the Jaegers are protected from knockdown and stun. Ice slick, rain, axe attacks, Dragon's Tail, Energy Melee stuns, Cobra Strike, Thunder Clap, all kinds of mitigation powers that depend on stun or knockdown won't help you against the Jaegers.

AFAIK, their Vengeance doesn't give any AoE defense (or at least less, my AoEs hit at 95% when attacking vengeanced Nemesis whereas other atacks get a substantial reduction). Not sure how much that'll help with Katana, as you only have one AoE labelled as such, but if you have an AoE from the ancillaries (what's your level again?) it may help.

Yeah, I just had this problem last night with Nemesis.

Cheat Code got the "Protect Lady Grey" mission and it had been so long since I had done it that I forgot all the Nemesis spawns as soon as the cutscene was over.

My health dropped faster than the gas gauge of my V8 4 barrel Malibu Classic at a redlight.

I was looking over my combat logs trying to figure out what had done so much damage, and I didn't see a mention of toxic clouds, but those, stacked with Vengence, would be the answer.

Another note, if you happen to have only a Fake Nemesis and an Lt or two, taking out an lt will not give the Fake Vengeance. Like everyone else I try to take them out first.

Truthfully that's probably only helpful when street sweeping.

It's the LTs vengence that's getting you by buffing the tohit of the remaining spawn (and sometimes the next spawn.) Jeagers aren't going to be a problem for a soft-capped scrapper. Kill LTs last... if needed you can retreat a little and split up the LTs, or at least get them away from the next spawn. Popping purples can help, but multiple stacks of vengence add up fast. All nemisis LTs use vengence, no exceptions.

Here in the scrapper forum we rarely talk about strategy since our builds tend to allow us to just run in and smack stuff.

After "getting better informed" from replies to this post I did another Nemesis mission with significantly improved results. I still think they're incredibly annoying, but only died once. Thanks again for the help.