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not the point its the 'MUST have FF on a farming build' that gives me the srs lulz.
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Originally Posted by Fiery-Enforcer
I forgot farming is oh so hard to do. The thing is personally, I would build a "farming" build and an all around build pretty much the same.
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@Psycho Jas
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I'd much rather have flashfire than something like fire imps. And while your build is a bit better than the OP's, it could stand for much improvement as well. It's really not that much better than a standard SO only build in that it's capable of only farming weak minions and Lts. Which is fine as long as you're not PL'ing anyone. |
Originally Posted by SoulTouch
Okay downs who think flashfire is essential on a FARMING only fire/kin build's are hillarious.
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I don't rely on flashfire on my build much either, but it never hurts to have an extra source of stuns, especially if you're dealing with bosses and your epic is stone. Fissure + flashfire = bosses out of the picture. And if you don't have capped defenses (like your build), then flashfire will help mitigate incoming damage allowing you kill instead of healing incoming damage.
Inspirations do drop in farms but you may not get the right ones at the right time. Also everytime you heal (transfusion), everytime you have to self buff or recover back endurance, it slows down your killing rate. The best farming builds minimize the need to do this so you can focus on killing as fast as you can. Admittedly flashfire slows you down too, but in builds without heavy mitigation, it's the penalty you have to pay in order to stay efficient (not having to heal so much, etc.)
I don't think psi epic very efficient. Perma IW is okay, but soft capped defenses with rock armor with fissure and seismic smash is superior. When farming you leave concept behind and make the choices with the highest degree of efficiency, and psi just doesn't cut it. Fissure costs less endurance, does more damage and has the same recharge as psi-nado. And seismic smash is nice to have to finish off that pesky boss or Lt. Personally, I hate the look of rock armor and prefer the front loaded damage of fireball, but I can't argue with the effciency of stone.
You *seem* smart enough and experienced enough to understand this, yet your build unfortunately doesn't apply these concepts. Instead you post something suboptimal.
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the fact that whenever this person shows up in RV i end up essentially farming him right outside of the hero base while he complains saying that i'm "perma-targeting" him runs counter to your first statement.
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Originally Posted by Fury Flechette
You *seem* smart enough and experienced enough to understand this, yet your build unfortunately doesn't apply these concepts. Instead you post something suboptimal.
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Originally Posted by black_barrier
the fact that whenever this person shows up in RV i end up essentially farming him right outside of the hero base while he complains saying that i'm "perma-targeting" him runs counter to your first statement.
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stick to pvp barrier its about the only thing your decent at in coh.
@Psycho Jas
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lolololol please come to freedom so I can show you how much BS there is in your post... while you eat your words while im farming on my fire/kin. tl;dr the other half of your post. but yeah instead of talking crap on the forums drop me a tell @soultouch.
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Originally Posted by Fury Flechette
I'd much rather have flashfire than something like fire imps. And while your build is a bit better than the OP's, it could stand for much improvement as well. It's really not that much better than a standard SO only build in that it's capable of only farming weak minions and Lts. Which is fine as long as you're not PL'ing anyone.
I don't rely on flashfire on my build much either, but it never hurts to have an extra source of stuns, especially if you're dealing with bosses and your epic is stone. Fissure + flashfire = bosses out of the picture. And if you don't have capped defenses (like your build), then flashfire will help mitigate incoming damage allowing you kill instead of healing incoming damage. Inspirations do drop in farms but you may not get the right ones at the right time. Also everytime you heal (transfusion), everytime you have to self buff or recover back endurance, it slows down your killing rate. The best farming builds minimize the need to do this so you can focus on killing as fast as you can. Admittedly flashfire slows you down too, but in builds without heavy mitigation, it's the penalty you have to pay in order to stay efficient (not having to heal so much, etc.) I don't think psi epic very efficient. Perma IW is okay, but soft capped defenses with rock armor with fissure and seismic smash is superior. When farming you leave concept behind and make the choices with the highest degree of efficiency, and psi just doesn't cut it. Fissure costs less endurance, does more damage and has the same recharge as psi-nado. And seismic smash is nice to have to finish off that pesky boss or Lt. Personally, I hate the look of rock armor and prefer the front loaded damage of fireball, but I can't argue with the effciency of stone. You *seem* smart enough and experienced enough to understand this, yet your build unfortunately doesn't apply these concepts. Instead you post something suboptimal. |
@Psycho Jas
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yeah, cause i wasn't the third fastest farmer in freedom from i9 to i13...|
Originally Posted by SoulTouch
stick to pvp barrier its about the only thing your decent at in coh.
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[smurphy has the #s]
I don't see anywhere the OP saying it was a farming build. Farming was mentioned in the post, but didn't say it was specific to that.
You're talking like PvE takes any real skill to do in this game? It's super easy (hopefully GR will change some of that to a degree). I've learned to do MoLRSF's in my sleep. Also, I don't think anyone is denying that your Fire/Kin can farm, but you're acting like you're the best at it and trying to prove it. I agree with Fury, for farming I'd rather take Fire or Earth as an epic because they both do more damage than Psi.
And no I'm not rolling a toon on Freedom to watch you farm.
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pve is hard when your name is soul touch and you can't use contractions.
Then again a fire/kin bragging on how much they "pwn" a battle maiden map is kind of like bragging about how fast you can pull the wings off of flies.
@Mental Maden @Maden Mental
"....you are now tackle free for life."-ShoNuff
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Oooh let me tell you that last fly I.....oh what you were making fun of....going back to flies and Battle Maiden Map domination with head down
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Originally Posted by MentalMaden
Then again a fire/kin bragging on how much they "pwn" a battle maiden map is kind of like bragging about how fast you can pull the wings off of flies.
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Can we get this moved to the PWNZ forum?
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no cause they deleted pwnz.
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Originally Posted by Sailboat
Can we get this moved to the PWNZ forum?
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There are MANY ways to build a fire/kin to farm, pve, etc.
If you are going for a straight farming for purples, build is irrelevant, just set it for -1/ x8 and go to town with SOs.
If you pling folks, different story.
Overall, fire/kin building is not hard. Build what works for you and have at it.
LOL, to the OP, if you didn't want to hear opinions, don't ******* come to the forums and post.
P.S. Lol at barrier and soul's bi**h fight. 
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It's the player not the build that makes it go. Flashfire is not going to make or break the build either It's not required but it's nice to have just in case, I have it but hardly ever use it. You should be able to pump out enough damage to kill everything fairly quickly and move on. Just because you are playing a fire/kin doesn't mean you are going to roll over everything, there is still some skill required.
this build just hurts my head, dude, go search the other fire/kin threads that exsist before you come back and try to defend that...you'll then see why you got ripped a new one...hopefully (not holding out much hope there)
Don't worry guys. He's right. We're wrong. We should smoke the tweed.
I prefer farming with my Spines/Fire or SS/Fire, I find them to be more effective than a Fire/Kin.
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