Can someone run some numbers for me?

A quick question with a probably not-so-quick answer:

Assuming no booster packs, vet rewards or any other not-out-of-the-box pieces, and accounting for different colors...

What is the exact number of possible costume combinations?

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A godzillion. Not counting scaling.

Seriously, you just need to multiply 20+ hairstyles by 20+ faces by 5 ears by 20+ mask patterns by 10 facial peripherals by 10+ head peripherals- and that's not counting helmets, hoods, masks without hair, etc- and WITHOUT TOUCHING COLORS there are more than 4 million combos above the neck, for one gender. If each of those has two colors, with 40 choices per color (or 1600 per "slot"), we're looking at FOR COLORS ALONE 16 million trillion. (16 x 10^15.)

Multiply those two and we've got 64 trillion trillion. 128 trillion trillion for M and F variations.

From the neck up. Without hats or hoods or helmets.

We're going to have a number that requires recursive exponentials to express it. (10^10^10^4 , or 3x10^10^10^10^6, or something. )

A googol is only 10^100, and a googoplex is 10^10^100, and I got to 10^16 up there without even warming up.

Like I said, it's probably not a quick answer, and yes, I forgot scaling, but since I don't know what the measure range on facial and body scales is {though if someone can pull them up from the .costume files or something, so much the better} we can ignore those - of course, if someone can incorporate the scaling into the final figure, hey, bonus!

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Well from checking my costume files, the scales are apparently capable of at least 6 decimal points worth of precision.

Scales would make the number practically infinite. I played with body scales in Notepad. The difference between body scale 6 and 6.001 is unnoticable but it's still a valid difference. There are scales for body, chest, shoulders, waist, hips, and legs, plus height, and although I never mess with them there's something like 20 scales for face.

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Originally Posted by PRAF68_EU Dispari has more than enough credability, and certainly doesn't need to borrow any from you.

Standard:
Face 67*56, hair 55, ear 12, detail1 85, detail2 42... for a total of 8840462400 combinations

Masks with hair:
Face 82*75 (interesting, there's two "none" patterns, both are counted), hair 54, ears 18 (12, but 6 had skin/colour options), detail1 85, detail2 43... total of 21848859000

Full masks:
face 82*75, ears 18, detail1 30, detail2 104 (another instance of 2 "none"s), detail3 43... total of 14851512000

hats:
face 82*75, hat 41, ears 18, detail1 62, detail2 43... total of 12100174200

Hoods:
face 82*75, hood 4, detail1 80, detail2 36... total of 70848000

Helmet:
face 82*75, helmet 5, detail1 70, detail2 41... total of 88252500

half-helmet:
face 82*75, helmets 16 (2 have 5 details + 6 others), detail1 87, detail2 43, Hdetail1 14, Hdetail2 17... total of 87611227200

Full-Helmet:
helm 16 (1 helmet has 7 details, + 9 others), detail1 13, detail2 31, detail3 7... total of 45136

medieval-helm:
helm 4, detail 18... total of 72

Monstous:
face 6, ears 6... total of 36

Add 'em all up for 145411180544 male heads (give or take... not counting colour and scale). That's one hundred forty-five billion, four hundred eleven million, one hundred eighty thousand, five hundred forty-four heads. If anyone figures out the number of options for the male upperbody; You multiply that number by this one... and then the product of those two numbers is multiplied by the male lowerbody.... ow, my brain.

Edit: the 21 scales for the shape of the head seem to be from -1 to 1 with 4 decimal places... If I were to argue that, beyond 1 decimal place isn't that noticeable, each scale has 21 different possible values... 21^21...

Turns out there's 160 standard colors (and only 70 skin colors, and you got the ear options) so standard faces, full masks, and hats multiply by 160*160*70*160 * 160 or 45,875,200,000 . Half helmets are 7,340,003,200,000 color options so they're going to dominate.

... wait. There's 160*160 colors for each "color" choice, not counting skin.

aaaaaarrrrgggghhhhh

I got this far...

Skin colors: 70

Male
Head
Standard
Face: 62*27*1
Hair: 53*2
Ear: 6*1+6*2
Detail 1: 78*2-1
Detail 2: 38*2
Masks with hair
Face: 82*75*2
Hair: 53*2-6
Ear: 12*2-6
Detail 1: 78*2-1
Detail 2: 38*2
Full masks:
Face: (68+(14*2))*75
Ear: Ear: 6*1+6*2
Detail 1: 30
Detail 2: 97
Detail 3: 38
Hats:
Face: 82 * 78
Hat: 34
Arghblahrgzgrh...

Does anyone know Jay's forum name? Maybe we can enlist his help...

Edit: PM awayyy!

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This really begs the question: Why do you need to know?

The number is going to end up being some huge to the nth power anyway, bigger than can be calculated by normal means.

The proper answer is "As many combinations as there are stars in the sky, or grains of sand on all the beaches in the world."

That's better than something with a bunch of exponeted exponents hehe.

This really begs the question: Why do you need to know?

Why wouldn't I, or anyone?

The number is going to end up being some huge to the nth power anyway, bigger than can be calculated by normal means.

At its core, it's still just multiplication.

The proper answer is "As many combinations as there are stars in the sky, or grains of sand on all the beaches in the world."

But does anyone have the means to calculate the exact number of those?

That's better than something with a bunch of exponeted exponents hehe.

But that's no different than the number of stars etc. Given appropriate context, any number can be meaningful.

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