**/Therm Controller for PvP
Ice/cold wrecks
i'm leveling up an earth/therm for the idea that controllers don't get access to much +tohit, and I want melt armor/heatex to land when i use it--thus i want to stack some -def first, which earth has.
I know for a fact that a well IOd, that doesnt include purples, stone/therm is very powerful in pvp. Seen several and they were very tough to beat.
Heyas.
I've never made a troller for PvP. I've heard that /therm is pretty good. Any suggestions what would be a fun set for a newb controller for PvP? Thanks!! |
as for a /cold controller, unless you have craploads of money heroside, there's very little reason to roll one over something like your sonic/cold. on a sonic/cold, in team matches, you get access to webnades which make you in a hellish disruption toon (once you get going on the webnade/infridge spam, the drop in kill rates is generally pretty noticeable in bigger matches).
/ff's are nice, /emps are still great, /kins are useless, /sonic is useless, /storm is ok, but requires skillful play, /therm is good, /ta's great.
ask mage to elaborate on the ice/cold though.
musey rolls on a ta/ defender, so maybe there's something i'm missing on the TA troller vs. TA def front.
don't listen to divine unless he's talking /rad.
my alter ego is leveling and ice/cold troller repeat-offenders style, so when it's 50 and spec'd, i may be able to give more feedback.
mind therm is fun ... confuse, and the three mains thorw in tk or the fear..to hit is not such an issue if you build your atks for acc and get leadership - with primal epic you get powerboost so your to hit will get a boost too with tactics on.
ice cold is bad ***...try having mage on you with no recharge lol..
mind/thermal gogo
You're not missing anything on the TA front BB, Musey wants a troller TA instead.
I had an Ill/Therm i found it effective but boring, probably just my taste. I`m sure It would be one of the best Troller toons to learn on though.
The Ice/Cold i love, good for duels and teams, there is better for both but it is good. Im not so sure if it is ideal to start on. Imo, it is easier to play something with a self heal (and/or massive damage)
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mind therm is fun ... confuse, and the three mains thorw in tk or the fear..to hit is not such an issue if you build your atks for acc and get leadership - with primal epic you get powerboost so your to hit will get a boost too with tactics on.
ice cold is bad ***...try having mage on you with no recharge lol.. |
I do have an earth/cold troller for PvE. Any chance that combo could work for PvP?
Thanks!
Phantom Flight / Villainous Llewthorous
@TFury
@T.Fury
Earth has kinda slow activating powers, but yes, that combo would definitely work.
yeah, cold's a tight build.
my skeleton for that would be something like this:
Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.601
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Level 48 Technology Controller
Primary Power Set: Earth Control
Secondary Power Set: Cold Domination
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Ice Mastery
Hero Profile:
Level 1: Fossilize -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Infrigidate -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Ice Shield -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Stone Prison -- Empty(A)
Level 6: Hurdle -- Empty(A)
Level 8: Combat Jumping -- Empty(A)
Level 10: Hasten -- Empty(A)
Level 12: Maneuvers -- Empty(A)
Level 14: Tactics -- Empty(A)
Level 16: Super Jump -- Empty(A)
Level 18: Super Speed -- Empty(A)
Level 20: Health -- Empty(A)
Level 22: Stamina -- Empty(A)
Level 24: Arctic Fog -- Empty(A)
Level 26: Acrobatics -- Empty(A)
Level 28: Benumb -- Empty(A)
Level 30: Stalagmites -- Empty(A)
Level 32: Animate Stone -- Empty(A)
Level 35: Sleet -- Empty(A)
Level 38: Heat Loss -- Empty(A)
Level 41: Ice Blast -- Empty(A)
Level 44: Hibernate -- Empty(A)
Level 47: Frozen Armor -- Empty(A)
Level 49: Glacial Shield -- Empty(A)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Containment
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Set Bonus Totals:
Thanks BB. I will look into that too.
Phantom Flight / Villainous Llewthorous
@TFury
@T.Fury
Here's an Earth/Cold build I'm tooling around with. Not as much HP as I'd like (man, that seems to be the case with all my builds unless I start getting into lots of purples and PvP IOs) but has respectable recharge and damage bonuses, shouldn't have too many endurance issues, and has 49 points of KB protection which should be enough to stop even Force Bolt with DR on (which would make this character a decent disruption build for team arena matches as well as dueling).
Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.601
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Level 50 Natural Controller
Primary Power Set: Earth Control
Secondary Power Set: Cold Domination
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Ice Mastery
Hero Profile:
Level 1: Stone Prison -- Dev'n-Acc/Dmg(A), Dev'n-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(3), Dev'n-Dmg/Rchg(3), Dev'n-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(5), TotHntr-Dam%(5), Apoc-Dam%(7)
Level 1: Infrigidate -- AnWeak-DefDeb(A), AnWeak-Acc/DefDeb(7), AnWeak-Acc/Rchg(9), AnWeak-DefDeb/EndRdx/Rchg(9), AnWeak-Acc/Rchg/EndRdx(11), Achilles-ResDeb%(39)
Level 2: Fossilize -- Dev'n-Acc/Dmg(A), Dev'n-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(11), Dev'n-Dmg/Rchg(13), Dev'n-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(13), Lock-Acc/Hold(15), Lock-EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(15)
Level 4: Snow Storm -- EndRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(46)
Level 6: Quicksand -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 8: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(17), RechRdx-I(17)
Level 10: Combat Jumping -- Krma-ResKB(A), LkGmblr-Rchg+(19), Zephyr-ResKB(19), Ksmt-ToHit+(21)
Level 12: Stalagmites -- Amaze-ToHitDeb%(A), Amaze-Stun/Rchg(21), Amaze-Acc/Stun/Rchg(23), Amaze-Acc/Rchg(23), Amaze-EndRdx/Stun(25), HO:Endo(25)
Level 14: Super Speed -- Clrty-EndRdx(A), Clrty-Stlth(36), Clrty-RunSpd(46)
Level 16: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 18: Health -- Mrcl-Rcvry+(A), Mrcl-Heal(34), Mrcl-Heal/EndRdx(34), Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(46)
Level 20: Stamina -- P'Shift-EndMod(A), P'Shift-EndMod/Rchg(33), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc(33), P'Shift-End%(34)
Level 22: Arctic Fog -- S'fstPrt-ResKB(A), Krma-ResKB(27), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(31), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(31), LkGmblr-EndRdx/Rchg(33)
Level 24: Super Jump -- Zephyr-Travel/EndRdx(A), Zephyr-ResKB(27)
Level 26: Acrobatics -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 28: Benumb -- Acc-I(A), Acc-I(29), RechRdx-I(29), RechRdx-I(31)
Level 30: Maneuvers -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), Krma-ResKB(36)
Level 32: Animate Stone -- S'bndAl-Dmg/EndRdx(A), S'bndAl-Dmg/Rchg(36), S'bndAl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(37), S'bndAl-Acc/Rchg(37)
Level 35: Sleet -- LdyGrey-DefDeb/Rchg(A), LdyGrey-DefDeb/Rchg/EndRdx(37), UndDef-DefDeb/Rchg(39), UndDef-DefDeb/Rchg/EndRdx(39)
Level 38: Heat Loss -- Efficacy-EndMod(A), Efficacy-EndMod/Rchg(40), Efficacy-EndMod/Acc/Rchg(40), Efficacy-Acc/Rchg(40), Efficacy-EndMod/Acc(42), Efficacy-EndMod/EndRdx(42)
Level 41: Tactics -- AdjTgt-ToHit(A), AdjTgt-ToHit/Rchg(42), AdjTgt-ToHit/EndRdx/Rchg(43), AdjTgt-EndRdx/Rchg(43), AdjTgt-ToHit/EndRdx(43), Rec'dRet-Pcptn(45)
Level 44: Hibernate -- Numna-EndRdx/Rchg(A), Numna-Heal/Rchg(45), Numna-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(45)
Level 47: Frozen Armor -- LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(A), LkGmblr-Def/Rchg(48), LkGmblr-Rchg+(48), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(48), Krma-ResKB(50), S'fstPrt-ResKB(50)
Level 49: Glacial Shield -- Krma-ResKB(A), S'fstPrt-ResKB(50)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Containment
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Set Bonus Totals:
- 22.5% DamageBuff(Smashing)
- 22.5% DamageBuff(Lethal)
- 22.5% DamageBuff(Fire)
- 22.5% DamageBuff(Cold)
- 22.5% DamageBuff(Energy)
- 22.5% DamageBuff(Negative)
- 22.5% DamageBuff(Toxic)
- 22.5% DamageBuff(Psionic)
- 1.56% Defense(Energy)
- 1.56% Defense(Negative)
- 3.13% Defense(Ranged)
- 44% Enhancement(Accuracy)
- 42.5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
- 5% FlySpeed
- 198.4 HP (19.5%) HitPoints
- 5% JumpHeight
- 5% JumpSpeed
- Knockback (Mag -40)
- Knockup (Mag -40)
- MezResist(Immobilize) 2.2%
- MezResist(Stun) 2.2%
- 20% Perception
- 10.5% (0.18 End/sec) Recovery
- 92% (3.91 HP/sec) Regeneration
- 2.52% Resistance(Fire)
- 2.52% Resistance(Cold)
- 1.26% Resistance(Energy)
- 1.26% Resistance(Negative)
- 5% RunSpeed
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Heyas.
I've never made a troller for PvP. I've heard that /therm is pretty good. Any suggestions what would be a fun set for a newb controller for PvP?
Thanks!!
Phantom Flight / Villainous Llewthorous
@TFury
@T.Fury