First: Dual*
Second: Reinforcement is earned by defeating 20 PvP targets. They don't necessarily have to be of the opposing faction, even though the badge text kinda implies it... at least that's how it worked last time I did this.
Third: Remember to stay in SG mode while you do this so you earn credit toward your SG badge for PvP kills as well.
You have it right, but here are my extra tips:
I like to use Warburg cause you have your Tier9 powers available to kill your opponents, and also because you can attack both Heroes and Villains there, widening your possible available targets.
(Using a Hero badge toon as an example) To try to avoid anybody ganking you, stand just inside the "safe zone" boundary outside the hospital boat, so in case people come by, you can't be attacked by any Heroes, and you can quickly get back to safe territory if any Villains come by.
The method: (assuming you are dual-boxing with 2 actual computers, not just 2 windows)
- Bring at least 5 (preferably 6 or more if you load fast) Heroes from the other account just outside the "safe zone" boundary.
- To save time, let the toon log off while you are killing it. (if you use the same computer for both instances, the logout process will not continue when you switch windows, making it faster/easier using 2 actual computers)
- Once you cycle through your toons the first time, it gets easier...
- Logging in the first toon again, you'll find that it is now inside the hospital with almost no health. Run outside the boundary and log off again. It's a very short distance, so it should be quick. (SS and/or SJ on these toons is helpful).
- By the time the PvP timer runs out, you'll still have several seconds left to 1-hit kill the low-hp opponent before the logoff completes. (If available, use toons that have lower hp and the least amount of defense/resistance/regeneration).
- Cycle through toons and repeat as needed.
Providing you are able to relog and cycle each toon every 45-60 seconds, it'd take roughly 8 hours of work. When I do this, I usually just do about 2 to 3 hours each day for a couple days. (You'll get 1.00 rep for each kill while not on any team).
Even faster.. is to have a friend or two join you and trade kills from each of your accounts, and even kill each other one in a while. You'll gain extra bounty rep from killing each other because you are killing somebody that has significant rep, instead of just killing 0.00s the whole time.
Then, once you both reach your 400rep, you can team up for the arena healing as well.. giving yourselves more targets, and faster progress. Nowadays, it only takes a few nights for Empath as well. (Again, remember SG mode for SG healing badge credit as well.)
If you are lucky, you might even get a small handful of PvP Recipes as drops and make a bunch of money while doing this too. lol
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wouldn't a tray of 20 small awakens speed up the process by cutting out the travel time?|
Originally Posted by Master-Blade
- Logging in the first toon again, you'll find that it is now inside the hospital with almost no health. Run outside the boundary and log off again. It's a very short distance, so it should be quick. (SS and/or SJ on these toons is helpful).
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and if you need a refill stock up have a bin in your sg base for easy access and a quick location for them???
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Travel time is not part of the equation because you'd have to wait for the PvP timer after logging in anyway, and you can easily walk outside to the location before it finishes counting down...|
Originally Posted by Forsaken_Empire_EU
wouldn't a tray of 20 small awakens speed up the process by cutting out the travel time?
and if you need a refill stock up have a bin in your sg base for easy access and a quick location for them??? |
Also, it automatically logs you in at the hospital if you logged out dead, so trying to log in at the same spot and using an awaken wouldn't be possible anyway... (at least not before the 5 minute pvp timer expires to receive credit again)... and if you try to use the awaken before you log out, it'd take you twice as long to have to wait before logging out (instead of being killed during the logout process), and you'd have full hp by the time you log back in anyway, making it take longer to kill the next time around and defeating the whole purpose.
well i wasn't thinking of loging out while rezing, but the last time i was in pvp before the changes i was left where i was drop as far as i remember but i can see your point about the timer anyways i forgot about that
Its not so much cutting travel time, as it is cutting visibility. If someone sees you doing this they can easily disrupt you. If you find a hidden spot out of normal LoS, there is a much lower chance of getting disrupted.
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When I first did this on my main badge a long time ago, you did indeed appear where you died when you logged back in, and I used to have to hit the hospital button and run back outside (or use an awaken). If I'm not mistaken, some of the "recent" PvP chances make you automatically rez after a certain amount of time being dead in PvP zones. You can't just sit dead forever and wait for a safe time to rez or anything like that. After a couple of minutes, it automatically sends you to the hospital, so by the time you log back in, that's where you'll end up now.|
Originally Posted by Forsaken_Empire_EU
well i wasn't thinking of loging out while rezing, but the last time i was in pvp before the changes i was left where i was drop as far as i remember but i can see your point about the timer anyways i forgot about that
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Originally Posted by NetMinder
Its not so much cutting travel time, as it is cutting visibility. If someone sees you doing this they can easily disrupt you. If you find a hidden spot out of normal LoS, there is a much lower chance of getting disrupted.
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The rare times that somebody does pop up and not want to leave me alone, I simply log out and make sure they see me logging out, and they go off and do something else. I use that opportunity to take a bathroom/food break and then come back to a couple more hours of uninterrupted killing. lol.
Hi Guys,
what a lot of info, all superb and going to be used, but one further question please?
As I intend to use my fairly new 2nd account to hold the donor toons and if I use Warburg, it will mean I have to level at least 6 toons to 35?
Is this correct?
If it is I might be quicker to use Bloody Bay at lvl 15 and incur the travel times?
These toons will probably be deleted when I am done so want to invest the least time and Inf on them.
Thanks
Edited : have to level at least 6 toons to 30?
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One of the downsides to Bloody Bay is that your targets must be of the opposing faction. Only Warburg is 'free for all'.|
Originally Posted by jacktar
If it is I might be quicker to use Bloody Bay at lvl 15 and incur the travel times?
These toons will probably be deleted when I am done so want to invest the least time and Inf on them. |
How about using toons that you actually like and plan to keep so that it's not a burden to level them up? It really does go much easier in Warburg (per someone who has gotten Disruptor on two toons by farming).
P.S. Why 6 toons? The PvP timer is only 5 minutes and with the time to kill and the log-out time and the PvP zone timer, you won't need 6 toons to cycle through if you're doing this alone. I haven't timed it, but I would estimate 3 toons would be enough.
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It depends how fast you can relog and go through this whole process. Using 5 toons, I found myself about 15-20 seconds shy of receiving credit for the first toon once I cycle through.. I think this is mostly because my pvp timer and the logout timer are overlapping and it only takes 1 shot to kill my target. That, and I was using 2 computers, which makes relogging on one of them very quick. I can usually cycle each toon within 45-60 seconds, which is why I suggested 6 in my first post, so you'd be sure to exceed the 5 minute timer.|
Originally Posted by Ironblade
P.S. Why 6 toons? The PvP timer is only 5 minutes and with the time to kill and the log-out time and the PvP zone timer, you won't need 6 toons to cycle through if you're doing this alone. I haven't timed it, but I would estimate 3 toons would be enough.
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If you are waiting until you are dead to relog the toon, then it's going to almost double the amount of time it takes overall... but actually, if you are only using one computer, then you don't have much choice, and then you are right that fewer toons would be needed.
YMMV
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Was this in Warburg or was it in Bloody Bay, where you're missing your best attacks?
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Originally Posted by Master-Blade
and it only takes 1 shot to kill my target.
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I use Warburg, strictly because I do have those tier9 powers to use to make the whole process much faster. That was the whole point of my first post that detailed the whole process.
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Originally Posted by Ironblade
Was this in Warburg or was it in Bloody Bay, where you're missing your best attacks?
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Right. I agree about using Warburg. However the OP stated their intention to level toons just for this purpose and planned to use Bloody Bay. If the OP just levels them to the minimum for Bloody Bay:
1) They won't have their best attacks.
2) They won't even have SO's.
Therefore, it will take FAR longer to defeat the target and he won't need 6 toons to cycle through.
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His comment/question regarding 6 toons was:|
Originally Posted by Ironblade
Right. I agree about using Warburg. However the OP stated their intention to level toons just for this purpose and planned to use Bloody Bay. If the OP just levels them to the minimum for Bloody Bay:
1) They won't have their best attacks. 2) They won't even have SO's. Therefore, it will take FAR longer to defeat the target and he won't need 6 toons to cycle through. |
"if I use Warburg, it will mean I have to level at least 6 toons to 35? "
For that purpose, I suggest yes, and I agree with you that if he chooses Bloody bay, he might not need as many. Like I said.. if it takes you longer to cycle through, you'd need less toons. This is more of a "YMMV" thing, like I said before.
On a side note, Nemesis staff (if available) is a good alternative and then your target would probably only need one other hit (if attacking them with low hp).
I'd probably still make more than 3, just to be on the safe side anyway. The last thing you want is to be doing this and get into a rhythm and find out that you are killing them too soon and not getting credit. Leveling an extra toon or two up to lvl 15 shouldn't take very long anyway... and if it means you end up being fast enough to kill 4 toons every 5 minutes instead of only 3, that drops your total farming time by a couple hours.
Hello Guys,
well firstly a huge thank you for being so patient with me and so generous with your "wise heads". Something that is blindingly obvious I do not have!
It has finally sunk in, that my understanding that all the PvP zones were the same in so much as all toons could attack all other toons, is completey wrong.
I was basing my use of Bloody on the assumtion that I could level a few Hero Toons and one Villain to 15 and use the area just outside the Hero safe zone to do the majority of the work just like in Warburg. Duh! Todays' something new learnt
Now I understand that to use Bloody all the new toons would need to be Villians and I would either have to travel them to me across the zone each log in, or find a quiet hideout near the Villian base where they could nip out to me. Not sure if such a place exists.
My Badger is a tricked out (including the Vet attack powers) scrappie and will have no problem fast killing at any level and of course my foes will be putting up no resistance, active or passive.
So now armed with my newly found knowledge I guess I have two choices:
1. Level another 3/4 Villains to 15, all with Superspeed, and accept the longer (considerably?) turnaround time by using Bloody.
2. Level approx 5/6 heroes to 30 and use the smart Warburg method.
This is going to be a decision I shall have to think through carefully.
If only we could transfer toons between accounts, I would move my Badger to the second and use all my other existing red and Blue 50's as the fodder. Ah well Father Christmas is here soon so best I shove a letter up the chimney fast
I never fail to be amazed at how this game, that appears so simple on the surface, is in fact so deep!
Thank you all so much Guys, I am now so much better prepared for the task ahead
Cheers
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why not fly striaght up as high s u can go just make sure ur near the person u want to kill you so when u crash land u only have 1 health left?
a huge timesaver for the bloody bay attempt. Take the badge toon to a out of the way location on the map. Have the "to be killed" toons in a SG that has a base Rez ring. After the first time of going to the "Death Location" when the farmed toon dies go to the base Not the hospital, log off in the base. When you log back on you will appear right back at the slaughter spot. no more travel time. With the population of BB at most times, if you are way out in the water no one will ever find or bug you.
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One point if I may, the amount of time that you save by levelling your toons to only 15 instead of 30 (or whatever it is you need) would definitely make up for the amount of time it takes to get your kills in BB. IMHO.
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Probably.
I still think it would make more sense to level up toons that the OP actually enjoys and plans to keep, rather than a bunch of throwaways.
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Hello everybody,
Objective:
Obtain the following badges
1. Reinforcement - Defeat 20 Villians in PvP
2. Forward Observer - Attain 100 Rep points in PvP
3. Disrupter and with it, Longbow Warden 2 - Obtain 400 Rep points in PvP
Method:
Main account using main badge toon.
Second account using a number of cannon fodder toons, enough to rotate after defeat to cover the 5 minute grace period, of which one at least will be a Villian in order to get Reinforcement.
Level the number of all Victims(Volunteers!) to 15, so they can enter Bloody Bay, the lowest lvl PvP zone.
Set up all participants in zone in a secluded area.
Log in both Main and Secondary and start defeating the secondary toons on a rotational rota till required Rep totals are reached. (How much Rep per defeat is awarded please)
Rinse and repeat.
Any thoughts/errors spotted/suggestions about the Method will be gratefully received.
I am too old and ugly to be in the slightest disturbed about the morality of this proposal or the sensitivities of Hard core PvPers ruffled by my future actions, but if you wish to waste your time please feel free if it helps
Thanks Guys and now off to the Sewers!
Cheers
Edited to add: I thought about using the Arena, but I gather Arena matches do not give defeat Rep?
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