I hit 50 but still want to LEAD teams...?
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Posted on: 2009-11-17 17:26 in Player Questions
A 50 can get any arcs and standalone missions from their 45-50 contacts they haven't run yet and happily run radios, as well as the repeatable missions in Cim, RWZ and the Shadow Shard.
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Of course you can. If the arc is not a 45-50 arc, though, the enemies will be capped at the top range of the arc, plus your difficulty (for example, if you started but never finished the The Freaklympics story arc, all of the enemies would be level 29 whne your difficulty is set to +0)|
Originally Posted by RobertoLyon
I don't think I've ever tried to continue ANY arc post-50, is that possible?
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If the arc extends the enemy range to 50, it will be perfectly normal.
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| Can a 50 get new arcs? |
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| What about Radios, can a 50 get and run Radios? |
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First of all, gratz on L50!
A 50 can still get storyarc missions from the L45-50 Contacts:
Maria Jenkins, Unai Kemen, Crimson and Harvey Maylor
Gaussian and The Dark Watcher in the RWZ have L45-50 storyarc missions.
There are five contacts that give repeatable L50 missions in The Shadow Shard.
The RWZ, Cimerora, and Warburg each have one contact that gives repeatable L50 missions.
And yes, you can still get radio missions in Peregrine Island.
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In fact its actually BETTER that you lead the teams as a 50. Why?
Imagine you team up with 7 other lvl 24 heroes to do radio missions. If one of them leads you get exemped down (without all your powers after 29). You also run the radios in Steel or IP. In the pre-SSK days, this is how you would have to do it.
But now if you lead, everyone SK's up to 49. You run the radios in Peregrine. You get lvl 50 common recipe drops (worth FAR FAR more than lvl 25 common drops) and you get the chance of PURPLES. Win for everyone.
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Ummm... no.|
Originally Posted by CaptSammy
In fact its actually BETTER that you lead the teams as a 50. Why?
Imagine you team up with 7 other lvl 24 heroes to do radio missions. If one of them leads you get exemped down (without all your powers after 29). You also run the radios in Steel or IP. In the pre-SSK days, this is how you would have to do it. But now if you lead, everyone SK's up to 49. You run the radios in Peregrine. You get lvl 50 common recipe drops (worth FAR FAR more than lvl 25 common drops) and you get the chance of PURPLES. Win for everyone. |
You're confusing leading with owning the mission.
A level 50 can lead, chose the mission of a level 35 teammate, and then do that mission while still leading. Everyone gets auto-sidekicked to level 35 when they enter the mission.
Whether the OP would want to exemplar down is a different issue, but he can exemplar down and still have the star.
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To clarify and expand on the two previous posts:
When you are OUTSIDE a mission, the person used to calculate all SSK levels is the TEAM LEADER.
When you are INSIDE a mission, the person used to calculate all SSK levels is the MISSION OWNER.
Example, you are level 50 and have the star. Everyone else on the team is a lower level and are SSK'ed to 49. You enter a mission belonging to someone who is level 40. When you enter the mission, your level drops to 40 even though you retain the star. Everyone else is either SK'ed up or exemped down to the level 40 mission owner. The actual level of the mission is based on the mission owner and his/her difficulty settings.
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Actually, ZM, yes (although I won't dispute that he may well still be confusing the points you mentioned).|
Originally Posted by Zombie Man
Ummm... no.
You're confusing leading with owning the mission. A level 50 can lead, chose the mission of a level 35 teammate, and then do that mission while still leading. Everyone gets auto-sidekicked to level 35 when they enter the mission. Whether the OP would want to exemplar down is a different issue, but he can exemplar down and still have the star. |
By definition if a group of "7 other lvl 24 heroes" are doing a Scanner mission in PI, the level 50 leader MUST also be the mission owner. So what he said was accurate.
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Nothing in his statement forced the assumption that he wasn't both the mission holder and leader, therefore nothing guarantees that he is confusing anything.
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Originally Posted by Zombie Man
Ummm... no.
You're confusing leading with owning the mission. |
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Originally Posted by Eric Nelson
Actually, ZM, yes (although I won't dispute that he may well still be confusing the points you mentioned).
By definition if a group of "7 other lvl 24 heroes" are doing a Scanner mission in PI, the level 50 leader MUST also be the mission owner. So what he said was accurate. |
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Originally Posted by brophog02
Nothing in his statement forced the assumption that he wasn't both the mission holder and leader, therefore nothing guarantees that he is confusing anything.
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| Imagine you team up with 7 other lvl 24 heroes to do radio missions. If one of them leads you get exemped down (without all your powers after 29). You also run the radios in Steel or IP. In the pre-SSK days, this is how you would have to do it. But now if you lead, everyone SK's up to 49. |
We all know what's the intent behind the advice, I was just clarifying that if the OP is willing to exemplar, there is that option now while retaining leadership since SSK goes by the level of mission owner, not team leader for instanced missions.
That last quoted sentence should have been: "But now, you can chose your mission or theirs and still get Influence and everyone is auto-sidekick to the mission's anchor and you don't have to give up leadership of the group. Although, it would be better loot for you to choose your own level 50 missions."
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To further clarify:|
Originally Posted by Ironblade
To clarify and expand on the two previous posts:
When you are OUTSIDE a mission, the person used to calculate all SSK levels is the TEAM LEADER. When you are INSIDE a mission, the person used to calculate all SSK levels is the MISSION OWNER. Example, you are level 50 and have the star. Everyone else on the team is a lower level and are SSK'ed to 49. You enter a mission belonging to someone who is level 40. When you enter the mission, your level drops to 40 even though you retain the star. Everyone else is either SK'ed up or exemped down to the level 40 mission owner. The actual level of the mission is based on the mission owner and his/her difficulty settings. |
When you are OUTSIDE a mission and have NO MISSION SELECTED then the person used to calculate all SSK levels is the TEAM LEADER.
When you are OUTSIDE a mission and HAVE A MISSION SELECTED then the person used to calculate all SSK levels is the MISSION OWNER. <- this is used to good effect during GM battles and zone events when the leader may be a lower level but selects a higher level teammate's mission to increase everyone's level.
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Originally Posted by Zombie Man
I stand by my correction which was to correct this statement...
If one of the level 27s leads, that does not mean they have to do missions in Steel or IP because the level 27 leader can chose the level 50's mission in PI. Additionally, the OP can also chose to retain leadership and do those Steel/IP radio missions anyway. We all know what's the intent behind the advice, I was just clarifying that if the OP is willing to exemplar, there is that option now while retaining leadership since SSK goes by the level of mission owner, not team leader for instanced missions. That last quoted sentence should have been: "But now, you can chose your mission or theirs and still get Influence and everyone is auto-sidekick to the mission's anchor and you don't have to give up leadership of the group. Although, it would be better loot for you to choose your own level 50 missions." |
Erm...thanks?
Seriously - thanks for the input - and now I know waaaay more about the SSk system than I ever really wanted to.
But I do appreciate the help!
I generally prefer building and leading my own teams, rather than joining others.
Now I've hit 50 on my Shield/Mace tank, and find him so much fun I want to continue messing with him.
I don't farm and have had nothing but bad experiences in AE.
-I don't think I've ever tried to continue ANY arc post-50, is that possible?
-Can a 50 get new arcs?
-What about Radios, can a 50 get and run Radios?
In short, how can I get and run team-friendly missions if I want to keep using my 50, and don't want to TF or Flashback or AE?