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They better be able to, or I will be quite unhappy.
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Originally Posted by Mod_Noc
When Going Rogue comes out will VEATs be able to switch sides also? I seen in the Hero Con clip that mentioned when starting out in Pretoria you can pick one of the 10 AT's and become a Loyalist or Resistance. Well They are 14 AT's that include VEATs and Kheldians in the game. Are the Epic AT's locked in or will they be able to switch side by becoming a Rogue or Vigilante? I tried to search for the answer, but my searching skills are not the greatest.
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From what I understand VEAT/HEAT will be able to side switch, however starting in Praetoria is reserved for the original 10 archetypes.
Indeed, Veats and Heats can't start in Praetoria. But they can swap sides and enter praetoria.
It's purely for story reasons.
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I wonder if there even is an Arachnos in Preatoria? We know there isn't a Lord Recluse, but he didn't start Arachnos, so maybe a different incarnation of the organization exists there.
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Originally Posted by Brynstar
I wonder if there even is an Arachnos in Preatoria? We know there isn't a Lord Recluse, but he didn't start Arachnos, so maybe a different incarnation of the organization exists there.
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If I remember correctly Cole kills him after they get the power of the incarnate in the Praetorian universe.
I hope so...nothing says kicka** like an "evil" PB. PvP wise, VEATS should be fun for spotting out stalkers from what I've read reference the perc/hide caps.
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My buddy was telling me that at Herocon the devs stated that Arachnos doesn't exist in Preatorian earth. Not just Recluse but the organization as well.
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Originally Posted by Bookkeeper_Jay
If I remember correctly Cole kills him after they get the power of the incarnate in the Praetorian universe.
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Originally Posted by Mod_Noc
When Going Rogue comes out will VEATs be able to switch sides also? I seen in the Hero Con clip that mentioned when starting out in Pretoria you can pick one of the 10 AT's and become a Loyalist or Resistance. Well They are 14 AT's that include VEATs and Kheldians in the game. Are the Epic AT's locked in or will they be able to switch side by becoming a Rogue or Vigilante? I tried to search for the answer, but my searching skills are not the greatest.
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IMO VEATs shouldn't be able to switch sides. In fact Rogue Arachnos exist and they are more brutal/aggressive and against Lord Recluse's fair approach to things.
If ever Arachnos switch, they will be against Arachnos and Heroes and there will be some new TF or new contact or a new patron from Marshal Blitz.
If you want to RP and be a hero Arachnos then make a claws scrapper. I doubt you want to wear Arachnos uniform cause if you walk around Paragon City the Heroes will attack you unless you are a shape shifter.
Correct me if I'm wrong though. But I am against the switching VEATs to hero side... :P
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Just because a VEAT uses the GR system doesnt mean they automatically become a hero. They could be a Rogue, Neutral, Vigilanty (the 3 shades of grey before they can become a fully fledged hero) - which could easily cover the aggresive rogue arachnos.|
Originally Posted by Antoinette
IMO VEATs shouldn't be able to switch sides. In fact Rogue Arachnos exist and they are more brutal/aggressive and against Lord Recluse's fair approach to things.
If ever Arachnos switch, they will be against Arachnos and Heroes and there will be some new TF or new contact or a new patron from Marshal Blitz. If you want to RP and be a hero Arachnos then make a claws scrapper. I doubt you want to wear Arachnos uniform cause if you walk around Paragon City the Heroes will attack you unless you are a shape shifter. Correct me if I'm wrong though. But I am against the switching VEATs to hero side... :P |
Edit - And VEAT only have one costume (of 5) which has their Arachnos uniform so they won't necessarily be walking around in uniform all the time!
Edit Again - Also Claw Scrappers cover only cover one branch of Widows, and even then not very well!
Sorry for all the edits but the more I read your post the more I don't get your objection to VEAT switching sides, sorry :S
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Originally Posted by Tired Angel
Just because a VEAT uses the GR system doesnt mean they automatically become a hero. They could be a Rogue, Neutral, Vigilanty (the 3 shades of grey before they can become a fully fledged hero) - which could easily cover the aggresive rogue arachnos.
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The chain goes:
Hero -> Vigilante -> Villain -> Rogue -> Hero
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As for people saying that Arachnos troops shouldn't be allowed to switch sides, why not? Isn't that really a choice to be made by the person playing them?
Maybe my Arachnos soldier was brainwashed and is starting to recover his original personality and wants to use his training and knowledge to help the Heroes fight back against Lord Recluse?
Maybe my Widow joined Arachnos to make a difference in the Rogue Isles and is finding that their influence is causing more harm than good? She's become disillusioned with the Arachnos regime and wants to liberate her homeland.
Maybe my guy is a spy for Longbow and is coming back to Paragon to report what he's learned? Maybe he's actually a double agent and is intending to come to Paragon to steal secrets so he can then return to the Rogue Isles and strengthen his position within Arachnos?
Maybe I just want to run around as a Crab Spider and do the teabag emote in front of a bunch of Heroes that can't do anything about it?
Or maybe, just maybe, I'll decide how to play my characters without your input.
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I agree with Chad. I've seen that whole "HEATs/VEATs shouldnt be allowed to switch sides!" discussions before. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and can restrict themselves to not switch sides if thats the way they feel, for whatever RPing reason they have. I'm just glad I have the option of changing loyalties for some fun variety.
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Just a quick correction: it has been confirmed by a developer that there is only one intermediate stage between Hero and Villain. There is no "true neutral" side that you can become (starting Praetorians can play as such until level 20, but then must pick either Hero or Villain).
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Why do all "rogue" Arachnos would have to be in the same exact situation? If you decide to quit Arachnos, you could go with the Malta , the knives of Artemis, Freakshows, Hellions, Skulls, Vanguard, etc. You seem to imply that everyone who ever defected from Arachnos went with Marshal Blitz.|
Originally Posted by Antoinette
IMO VEATs shouldn't be able to switch sides. In fact Rogue Arachnos exist and they are more brutal/aggressive and against Lord Recluse's fair approach to things.
If ever Arachnos switch, they will be against Arachnos and Heroes and there will be some new TF or new contact or a new patron from Marshal Blitz. |
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Originally Posted by Antoinette
If you want to RP and be a hero Arachnos then make a claws scrapper. I doubt you want to wear Arachnos uniform cause if you walk around Paragon City the Heroes will attack you unless you are a shape shifter.
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I must also have missed the mace set that hero can get, wich is a mix of melee and ranged attacks.
Oh, and obivously they'd given ranged psy attacks to /SR scrappers!
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Originally Posted by Antoinette
Correct me if I'm wrong though. But I am against the switching VEATs to hero side... :P
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Just because you can't come up with an RP reason to play an Arachnos blue side doesn't mean the others won't.
If you really want to fail-proof everyone's background so they match exactly with the game lore..... then why don't you start by showing the very detailed background of your characters. I'm sure someone could find a few errors that aren't 100% canon.
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((...ok ok!!! sheesh...)) Well then i have to take those "buttcapes" from you!
BTW there are hundreds of telepaths in that army, I'm pretty sure we know when you are planning any treacherous act. Don't mess with Arachnos we might just turn you into a real spider...
You don't quit Arachnos, Arachnos fires you!
((FYI im not attacking anyone hahah...... or am I?))
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I'm currently not planning to take my Widow, or Soldier to Paragon. But I don't get the reference above that stated that if you walk around Paragon in your Arachnos uniform the Heros will attack you.
Unless you enter a free-for-all PVP zone, how can they attack you? Other than making comments about you in Broadcast?
My vote is to let players switch their Veat's if that is there preference.
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Shes/hes talking about from a RPing perspective. Like I said earlier, should make PvP a lil more exciting.
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Originally Posted by Black_Strike
I'm currently not planning to take my Widow, or Soldier to Paragon. But I don't get the reference above that stated that if you walk around Paragon in your Arachnos uniform the Heros will attack you.
Unless you enter a free-for-all PVP zone, how can they attack you? Other than making comments about you in Broadcast? My vote is to let players switch their Veat's if that is there preference. |
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Originally Posted by CrazyJerseyan
Shes/hes talking about from a RPing perspective. Like I said earlier, should make PvP a lil more exciting.
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Well an all veat team doing a stf should be fun
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Originally Posted by Antoinette
((...ok ok!!! sheesh...)) Well then i have to take those "buttcapes" from you!
BTW there are hundreds of telepaths in that army, I'm pretty sure we know when you are planning any treacherous act. Don't mess with Arachnos we might just turn you into a real spider... You don't quit Arachnos, Arachnos fires you! ((FYI im not attacking anyone hahah...... or am I?)) |
Don't worry though, there's no way i'm leaving the job of the cutest and strongest Mu girl ever open. =P Longlive Arachnos!
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When Going Rogue comes out will VEATs be able to switch sides also? I seen in the Hero Con clip that mentioned when starting out in Pretoria you can pick one of the 10 AT's and become a Loyalist or Resistance. Well They are 14 AT's that include VEATs and Kheldians in the game. Are the Epic AT's locked in or will they be able to switch side by becoming a Rogue or Vigilante? I tried to search for the answer, but my searching skills are not the greatest.