Curious, what are the good Farm maps now? I still got the big Nem map one, and Olivia Darque. Not sure which is the Snake one mentioned. I run a Fire/Psi by the way.
back in the day, a top end dom played by a highly competent player (topdoc, lab, ME YOYOYOYO, and tribal) would earn about 100k-145k inf/min...
i just clocked my ss/fire brute with a 200 mill inf build at 460k/min on a subpar run.
don't make a dom if you want to farm.
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Not exactly. While a ticket farm custom designed to play to your character's strengths is tempting, top farmers are going to stick with farms that can drop purples. TopDoc did a very careful study using his pre-nerf Fire/Psi Dom in March of '09 and found he made more off of selling purples than everything else put together. He was pulling in about 60M/hour.
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Originally Posted by DitzyBlonde
On a side note you can custom MA missions for any character to max out tickets expediently. I mean the caps so low now who couldn't? If you want to farm with a fire//psi make a custom mission. Cap out your tickets. Roll bronze 10-14 and 35-39. Get your recipes. Go sell em.That'll put you right up at 20-30 million an hour with the big boys on any AT you care to play. Voila!!!
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Originally Posted by DitzyBlonde
On a side note you can custom MA missions for any character to max out tickets expediently. I mean the caps so low now who couldn't? If you want to farm with a fire//psi make a custom mission. Cap out your tickets. Roll bronze 10-14 and 35-39. Get your recipes. Go sell em.That'll put you right up at 20-30 million an hour with the big boys on any AT you care to play. Voila!!! |
Nothing to see here folks. Doms are terrible at farming..not worth it. Go play Brutes...thanks.
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Nate Nitro 50 Fire/Psi
Yep, in terms of kill speed (and thereby inf/minute) a Brute far surpasses a Dom. The gap was less before I15, but as long as people have been keeping track of the numbers, Brutes have always been more efficient (and their builds are often cheaper as well with no necessity to build for permadom). The exception was before the Family nerf a few years ago, when some Doms would occasionally out-clock Brutes at doing the "Battle for Television" (mixed Family and Nemesis) mission.
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30 mill an hour means you're really bad.
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Originally Posted by RiverOcean
Shhhhhhhh....Ditzy...shhhhhh
Nothing to see here folks. Doms are terrible at farming..not worth it. Go play Brutes...thanks. |
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Umm isn't that more than what you said you made on your Brute? Or are we talking about counting ticket rolls and drops instead of pure inf/hour?|
Originally Posted by black_barrier
30 mill an hour means you're really bad.
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As far as what AT is better as of now, that's Brutes no questions about it. Before the Dom changes and difficulty options, I much preferred my Fire/Psi over my SS/Fire though.
Back then, my best money making farm was the nemesis platform which my Dom cleared significantly faster than the Brute (4-5 minutes opposed to 7-8 minutes). A part of the reason was that I had to herd with the Brute, but with the Dom I just popped inspirations like a mad man along with Fire Cages and the outrageous range of PSW.
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i wasn't counting drops when i gave out that number.|
Originally Posted by Fiery-Enforcer
Umm isn't that more than what you said you made on your Brute? Or are we talking about counting ticket rolls and drops instead of pure inf/hour?
As far as what AT is better as of now, that's Brutes no questions about it. Before the Dom changes and difficulty options, I much preferred my Fire/Psi over my SS/Fire though. Back then, my best money making farm was the nemesis platform which my Dom cleared significantly faster than the Brute (4-5 minutes opposed to 7-8 minutes). A part of the reason was that I had to herd with the Brute, but with the Dom I just popped inspirations like a mad man along with Fire Cages and the outrageous range of PSW. |
that 30 mill number counted drops.
read more carefully next time.
Bile spray is broken. Just saying.
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No. It isn't.
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Originally Posted by SoulTouch
Bile spray is broken. Just saying.
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That's what I was asking about.kthanks
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Originally Posted by black_barrier
i wasn't counting drops when i gave out that number.
that 30 mill number counted drops. read more carefully next time. |
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Both knowing that it is, why are people still saying mace/mu mastery is better? Obviously isn't.
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Originally Posted by Not_Epsilon
No. It isn't.
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@Psycho Jas
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way wrong.|
Originally Posted by SoulTouch
Both knowing that it is, why are people still saying mace/mu mastery is better? Obviously isn't.
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i get more damage from ball lightning than from foot stomp, blazing aura or burn (but the numbers are very very similar).
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have you even seen how broke bile spray is?
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Originally Posted by black_barrier
way wrong.
i get more damage from ball lightning than from foot stomp, blazing aura or burn (but the numbers are very very similar). |
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I switched to Soul Mastery and loving it, Gloom allows you to take down bosses that much faster.
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30 degree slown animating cone that you have to line up doesnt seem that broke to me in a farming situation.
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You get more damage from Ball Lightning than Footstomp? Either you've failslotted Footstomp or this is an exaggeration.
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Originally Posted by black_barrier
way wrong.
i get more damage from ball lightning than from foot stomp, blazing aura or burn (but the numbers are very very similar). |
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lololol listen looking at mids numbers isnt hard, go try it yourself it isn't a 30degree cone as it states it is, it hits every single thing.
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Originally Posted by TRTerror
30 degree slown animating cone that you have to line up doesnt seem that broke to me in a farming situation.
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@Psycho Jas
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40% recharge build (loli'm cheap)|
Originally Posted by Silas
You get more damage from Ball Lightning than Footstomp? Either you've failslotted Footstomp or this is an exaggeration.
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footstop has 84% dmg, 83% ac, 65% rchg with a ff and armageddon proc.
and it's not an exaggeration. when you're hitting the target cap every time you cast a power while constantly at the fury cap, that's the net result.
460k xp/min with two 50s in the mission. gimme yer #s.
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I'm curious, what are you farming?
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Originally Posted by black_barrier
40% recharge build (loli'm cheap)
footstop has 84% dmg, 83% ac, 65% rchg with a ff and armageddon proc. and it's not an exaggeration. when you're hitting the target cap every time you cast a power while constantly at the fury cap, that's the net result. 460k xp/min with two 50s in the mission. gimme yer #s. |
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none of your business
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Originally Posted by fiery-enforcer
i'm curious, what are you farming?
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he thinks hes the only one in this game that farms broke AE farms, let him, he's a special one.|
Originally Posted by black_barrier
none of your business
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he still hasn't figured out how to ignore on the forums, he manages fine ingame.
@Psycho Jas
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git emo noub
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Originally Posted by SoulTouch
he thinks hes the only one in this game that farms broke AE farms, let him, he's a special one.
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You seem to be boasting about your farming abilities, but then not willing to say what you farm? Okay. I may have to agree with Soul then about using an exploitive AE mission. I would gladly post my numbers if I knew what you were using to make a fair comparison.
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Originally Posted by black_barrier
none of your business
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Edit: Just checked that thread. Interesting read. Lotsa numbers for comparisons. So forget my baseline, check out the thread! I have to do a few similar runs to those listed. But at first glance it does seem that confuse does yield signifcantly less inf. One example:
Influence from Kills : 19,928,944
Villains defeated : 1,104 (18.32 per minute)
117 Bosses
285 LT's
702 Minions
So less than 80% of critters yielded 280% base inf compared to my run. Ok, those were at +2 and included bosses so I have to get similar results to compare. "Now a boss is worth 7.94 minions" would mean above result would be comparable to approx 1900 critters with no bosses. Still quite a discrepancy (136% vs 280%).
Though base inf doesn't bother me too much, I'm in it mostly for the purples (and they do yield much more on the market). And turning off bosses yields more critters per minute so more purples too. Yay!
No offense but the Op asked for a good farming toon suggestion(7.5 million an hour is chump change).Yes, Fury Flechette doms have fallen that far. Roll a brOOt ,Op. There is no reason to farm with a dom anymore unless you just enjoy playing them. The enfamy or recipe yield per session to be earned playing other At's then dom's is self explannatory. BrOOt's kill more things and faster. Yielding more of both enfamy and recipe's.
No offense,Bier guy but do you think player's havent already surpassed that baseline ?Do you think the confuse arguement wasnt factored in YEARS ago and proven moot?
Grrr.. you JUST figured out that turning off bosses means more kills which equates a higher chance for drops base on kill numbers vs time?
On a side note you can custom MA missions for any character to max out tickets expediently. I mean the caps so low now who couldn't? If you want to farm with a fire//psi make a custom mission. Cap out your tickets. Roll bronze 10-14 and 35-39. Get your recipes. Go sell em.That'll put you right up at 20-30 million an hour with the big boys on any AT you care to play. Voila!!!