Ice Controllers Without Arctic Air

I would like to hear your reasoning. I'm not being ugly, I'm just curious, because "small fraction" makes it sound to me like -Recharge has a marginal effect on NPCs, when what I've seen from Masterminds seems different.

I never could get the baddies to zero endurance when I did that with Build Up+Short Circuit. They always had just a smidge left, and it was typically rather traumatic on my squishy self.

I have noted before that very often a hero has the Build they levelled up with, and the Build they respec into around lvl 50. Playstyles can radically differ Pre- and Post- certain powers. Build Up+Power Sink+Short Circuit floors them, but before Power Sink it just did not work.

If I am going to toss Thunderous Blast, then I save Power Sink (and a Blue) for use on getting Instant Endurance Recharge on any potential survivor(s). Electric Nuking in this manner is my favorite way to Nuke.

Are there any other heroes that can reliably use an End Drain strategy? You mentioned Kin/Elec... how does that work out?

There's several things there.

1. What you may've read is the description that was and I think still is on certain confuse powers, that you don't get any XP for mobs defeated by confused foes. That has always been completely wrong. If you do 1% or 99% of the damage to a given mob, and a confused mob does the remaining HP to that mob, you still get XP from it. (Though not precisely as though you'd killed it yourself.)

2. You may've also heard people say that using confusions can be "bad for XP." Before Issue #2, it was pretty easy to have the use of confusion powers reduce XP per time. But at that point, it was tweaked so that 75% of confused mob damage was taken out of the equation for splitting XP, and at this point, to really have confusions worsen your XP/time, you'd have to be doing things that would ruin your XP/time anyway.

3. You may've also heard people say that using confusions can cause you to "lose" XP. This has always been completely wrong. Irritating but true: the only thing that earns XP in the game is damage.

4. To answer your first explicit question: yes, but it's not quite the same thing. Using confusions in conjunction with damage can cause you to earn more XP per point of damage you do than you would without the confusions. I think it's reasonable to construe that as gaining XP due to damage done by confused mobs.

5. To answer your second explicit question: If you really just let all the confused mobs defeat each other, you won't get any XP. You'd find it very hard to do that, however: why waste good native endurance recovery and recharge time on powers in your tray if you can throw out some roots and chillblain or whatever?

My Kinetics/Elec is specifically built around doing Endurance Drain. Lightning Ball and Short Circuit are slotted for EndMod and no damage. Thunderous Blast has some EndMod in it. Transference + Short Circuit will easily take a single foe out of the fight for a while. Power Build Up (not Build Up, but the one from the APP set that amplifies your other attribuites like holds and other control effects, and Endurance Drain) + Short Circuit will drain Minions and usually Lts . . . if not, then one shot of Lighting Ball will usually finish the job. But without Short Circuit's ability to prevent Recovery for a little while, Endurance Drain is mostly useless. Unfortunately, it means that I have to run into melee to use SC, resulting in frequent deaths.

One really fun aspect of the combo, though, is Fulcrum Shift, then PBU+Thunderous Blast, run in, pop a small blue, Transference followed by Short Circuit. Anything left standing has zero endurance, while I have a full blue bar (assuming nothing misses).