Heat Exhaustion is well to be honest a really good power. I dont think its overpowered even though i hate its guts.
I have issues with that ******* broken placate proc and more than that tanker damage.
Everyone really hates that power where you are encapsulated in a piece of ****.
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Yeah, i hear about the placate proc often >.<
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Originally Posted by Musey
Heat Exhaustion is well to be honest a really good power. I dont think its overpowered even though i hate its guts.
I have issues with that ******* broken placate proc and more than that tanker damage. Everyone really hates that power where you are encapsulated in a piece of ****. |
Placate proc is not a powerset, and it doesn't need to be nerfed...it needs to be fixed. There's no doubt that it's OP, and I think most would agree with that.
As far as actual powersets, I guess I'd pick regen. Even after all the nerfs (like 50 total through the last 5 years), it's still at least twice as good as any other scrapper set.
Of course it would be better to improve the other sets to make them viable, but lol at that, since the devs have not done that a SINGLE time in the game's existence. So yeah, I pick regen. Basically because it's the only set I can think of where literally every knowledgeable PvP'er would say it's better than any other option. I guess super strength is kinda like that too now, but not to the same extent.
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im all about regen but...id have to agree. I'd love to see the buff more than anything, but yeah regen is def much better than all overs.
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Originally Posted by Supermax
Placate proc is not a powerset, and it doesn't need to be nerfed...it needs to be fixed. There's no doubt that it's OP, and I think most would agree with that.
As far as actual powersets, I guess I'd pick regen. Even after all the nerfs (like 50 total through the last 5 years), it's still at least twice as good as any other scrapper set. Of course it would be better to improve the other sets to make them viable, but lol at that, since the devs have not done that a SINGLE time in the game's existence. So yeah, I pick regen. Basically because it's the only set I can think of where literally every knowledgeable PvP'er would say it's better than any other option. I guess super strength is kinda like that too now, but not to the same extent. |
Rather than nerfing i would like to see more sets buffed and made viable for pvp
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I thought I13 did that? Oh wait...
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Originally Posted by TRTerror
Rather than nerfing i would like to see more sets buffed and made viable for pvp
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Regen, when a scrapper is more powerful than a tank, and does more damage, well thats just not balenced.
Well i13 did bend the survival curve moderately, reduce spikes/instadeaths...at least for a short while. Spikes seem to have note returned to the pre-i13 days for some reason, not sure why. I suppose folks adjusted their builds/enhancements to bring their spikes back up to pre-i13 levels maybe.
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Originally Posted by SonicBang
Regen, when a scrapper is more powerful than a tank, and does more damage, well thats just not balenced.
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I thought tankers are suppose to tank not deal dmg
and if this is a game shouldnt this go in the forum games?
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Originally Posted by SonicBang
Regen, when a scrapper is more powerful than a tank, and does more damage, well thats just not balenced.
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The best tanks can take more then the best regen scrappers. Regen may seem as good only because they have their first powerset lowering your health so you can't focus on attacking as much. But i have seen some WP tanks never die from a melee.
Ele/therm and thug/pain are too good and only lose to their exact weakness, ele/ tank or ice/ troller (sometimes stormies too). I wouldn't mind if they needed more skill to be that good. It only bothers when i see a good player lose to a bad one because of those powersets.
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This is completely incorrect (well, the "only lose to certain things" part, not the "too good" part).
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Originally Posted by Sentry4
Ele/therm and thug/pain are too good and only lose to their exact weakness
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I'm with Mac on this people don't lose do their excat weaknesses they lose for varying factors. As a regen my weakness would be a thermal but you know what counters those inspirations use them abuse them get wreckd. Squishys of all sorts run from my regen even most brutes, the only non runners are MM and that's only cause they don't need to/ if they did would die instantly.
Heh, I know you said powerset, but your title implies some leeway.
1. Ranged damage on melee sets are too powerful. Sharks, blah blah blah. (nerf)
2. AS is practically useless. Remove Interrupt time. Check for critical at end of attack. (oops a buff)
3. Offensive buffs are only suppressed when mezzed, not detoggled. This is for defs and corrs only. (buff)
4. Tanker def/res reduced if Tank attacks (nerf by a small amount). They can keep their damage.
5. Broken record part, remove DR, heal decay.
6. Buff def with a little more elusivadfasweradsdf or whatever its called.
7. Nerf squishie res a little.
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Wow really? No
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Originally Posted by Necromatic
Heh, I know you said powerset, but your title implies some leeway.
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Heh, I know you said powerset, but your title implies some leeway.
1. Ranged damage on melee sets are too powerful. Sharks, blah blah blah. (nerf) |
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2. AS is practically useless. Remove Interrupt time. Check for critical at end of attack. (oops a buff)
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3. Offensive buffs are only suppressed when mezzed, not detoggled. This is for defs and corrs only. (buff)
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4. Tanker def/res reduced if Tank attacks (nerf by a small amount). They can keep their damage.
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5. Broken record part, remove DR, heal decay.
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6. Buff def with a little more elusivadfasweradsdf or whatever its called.
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7. Nerf squishie res a little.
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Let me begin with I'm not an idiot. AS is just not very practical in doing damage against very mobile units. Not that it is very hard to catch them, or predict where they land, its the stupid travel lag issue. I charge to where the target is going to be, or manage a good guesstimate, stop, hit AS, and then have it interrupted because I was moving? Hey, I WASN'T MOVING!| LOL no way this happens. If you think shark is bad. You do realize that AS is unresisted right???(critical part) Only idiots think AS is not useful. These are the same type of people that spam shark. AS > Shark all day. |
The real nitty gritty of what I propose was that the critical check (or when hide is checked for damage to target) happens at the end of the cast time. That way, an opponent can still knock you out of hide and eliminate the AS damage (for the most part anyway). Sure, the target will get move suppressed (but hey, no travel suppression right?), but worse (and a nerf to AS), the stalker is locked into the animation because there is no interrupt time anymore. How many times did you interrupt yourself on purpose to make a getaway or had that option when say, you didn't see those caltrops?
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| I'm pretty sure you meant Debuff......if they did this Rads would become a little too OPed, because there would be no way to drop the debuff. |
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| Ummm no. Let them keep their res and def. Tanks are suppose to tank not have as much dmg as blasters. |
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I see this coming, honestly, despite already being nerfed and seemingly on paper being balanced, I see a shark nerf coming. 2 Critting ticks of 265 on blasters just doesn't seem like something the devs would allow to continue. Yea it's already been nerfed, but lets look at regen.|
Originally Posted by Necromatic
1. Ranged damage on melee sets are too powerful. Sharks, blah blah blah. (nerf)
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2. AS is practically useless. Remove Interrupt time. Check for critical at end of attack. (oops a buff)
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Umm, Why? Its practically useless in ur hands? Maybe. Useless in the hands of someone good with a stalker? Not in the least, I get AS's off people using flares when im not lagging too bad, this idea is just unbalanced.
Different point, the way your explaination has it explained, the coding would make it possible to "Joust" with AS and hit it while passing in melee range and land outside the 10 ft range of "sight" few toons really have.
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3. Offensive buffs are only suppressed when mezzed, not detoggled. This is for defs and corrs only. (buff)
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4. Tanker def/res reduced if Tank attacks (nerf by a small amount). They can keep their damage.
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5. Broken record part, remove DR, heal decay.
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6. Buff def with a little more elusivadfasweradsdf or whatever its called.
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7. Nerf squishie res a little.
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Hehe. Ok here it how it works, you MUST choose one powerset to nerf, and explain why YOU feel it could bare a nerf. This is not a true cry for nerf, but i'm interested in seeing what powersets are giving people the most trouble and how. I will start.
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