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That depends entirely on you and what you will find you need for your Warshade. Both my Kheldians for example never use Human-form shields so I simply ignored them in favor of other powers.
Originally Posted by HomsikPanda
...i can unlock ALL the powers...
is this wise? or should i get powerpools? and if so, which ones?
Since each Kheldian you play can be built differently, or employ two builds, you can take Pool Powers instead of core powers. The choices may be tough, but one thing you must never forget: every pool power you'll ever take must be executed from your Human-form, and only click-powers may carry-over to your other forms for a short period of time.
I believe that a Kheldian Gold Standard should be based on SO's, and for anything above that... there's Platinum!
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Originally Posted by HomsikPanda
so i'm working (very very very hard) on getting my first warshade ^_^ (currently my hero is lvl 30 (20 more lvls till warshade !!!! =o )
and i was just looking at the warshade stuff... looks like 25 powers in total to unlock which means that without powerpools i can unlock ALL the powers... is this wise? or should i get powerpools? and if so, which ones? |
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so for example the pp fitness, switft, has no affect on my squid form?
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Originally Posted by LordXenite
That depends entirely on you and what you will find you need for your Warshade. Both my Kheldians for example never use Human-form shields so I simply ignored them in favor of other powers.
Since each Kheldian you play can be built differently, or employ two builds, you can take Pool Powers instead of core powers. The choices may be tough, but one thing you must never forget: every pool power you'll ever take must be executed from your Human-form, and only click-powers may carry-over to your other forms for a short period of time. |
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Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison
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Those powers since they are automatic will affect your Nova form for a few seconds after you've switched from Human-form to Nova-form, but the game eventually terminates their effect on your Nova-form only to re-activate it once you shift back to Human-form and spend a few seconds in Human-form.Quote:
Originally Posted by HomsikPanda
so for example the pp fitness, switft, has no affect on my squid form?
You can witness all this first-hand if you open the attribute monitor and display certain properties like Health/Endurance gain and Running/Flight speed and attempt to switch forms while looking at the attributes.
I believe that a Kheldian Gold Standard should be based on SO's, and for anything above that... there's Platinum!
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ooohhh... ok, make sense... thx
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Originally Posted by LordXenite
Like DK said, read the guide, you'll thank him and Plasma later.
Those powers since they are automatic will affect your Nova form for a few seconds after you've switched from Human-form to Nova-form, but the game eventually terminates their effect on your Nova-form only to re-activate it once you shift back to Human-form and spend a few seconds in Human-form. You can witness all this first-hand if you open the attribute monitor and display certain properties like Health/Endurance gain and Running/Flight speed and attempt to switch forms while looking at the attributes. |
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To clarrify that point, Stamina and similar powers actually activate for 10.something seconds once every 10 seconds, so they will activate when you are in human, then once you swap forms the power will only be active for the remainder of that 10.something seconds.|
Originally Posted by HomsikPanda
ooohhh... ok, make sense... thx
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More general advice for the pool powers is: yes most people take a lot of pool powers.
Warshades get some very cool powers (and a few that aren't quite so good) but even the good powers need slots and the key mistake people make it taking too many powers and ending up underslotting them all, so they can't really do anything well.
The best advice I can give you is to prioritise your human powers and slot them up as you want, then once you have ran out of slots start looking to the powers that don't need any, the power pools provide a lot of these kind of powers, even more so if you have a large budget and can take powers as IO mules. Despite being a generalist AT, trying to take and thus underslotting too many powers waters you down too much.
Oh last piece of advice, even if you only take 1 power pool pick: make it Hasten*
*which you can only click in human form, but the bonus carries over into the other forms for as long as Hasten lasts.
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Originally Posted by Redlynne
Bah. Hasten is overrated.
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i was honestly thinking of spending most of my time in spurka (squid) form so ^_^;
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Originally Posted by PrincessDarkstar
To clarrify that point, Stamina and similar powers actually activate for 10.something seconds once every 10 seconds, so they will activate when you are in human, then once you swap forms the power will only be active for the remainder of that 10.something seconds.
More general advice for the pool powers is: yes most people take a lot of pool powers. Warshades get some very cool powers (and a few that aren't quite so good) but even the good powers need slots and the key mistake people make it taking too many powers and ending up underslotting them all, so they can't really do anything well. The best advice I can give you is to prioritise your human powers and slot them up as you want, then once you have ran out of slots start looking to the powers that don't need any, the power pools provide a lot of these kind of powers, even more so if you have a large budget and can take powers as IO mules. Despite being a generalist AT, trying to take and thus underslotting too many powers waters you down too much. Oh last piece of advice, even if you only take 1 power pool pick: make it Hasten* *which you can only click in human form, but the bonus carries over into the other forms for as long as Hasten lasts. |
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That is what I do (Or did anyway) so the way I did it was to 5 or 6 slot the Nova powers, then give lots of slots to the beneficial human powers (Eclipse, Stygian etc etc) and then use the left over slots to get the best bonus' you can.|
Originally Posted by HomsikPanda
i was honestly thinking of spending most of my time in spurka (squid) form so ^_^;
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I also ended up taking Super Speed and Super Jump to use as out of combat movement since they are faster than Nova.
So the power pools are mostly powers that you may not use often but do provide some utility (Travel powers, medicine pool etc) and are better than no slotted human powers you would never use.
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Bah. Hasten is overrated.
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The way you play changes your IO slotting..
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I have a lvl 13 warshade. I like playin her as much as i played my lvl 50 peacebringer.
I got pool powers with my pb, just as i will with my ws cuz i went human form. I will run my ws as human form as well. I went with 3 pool powers. I got Fitness, Fighting, n Speed, I got swift, health, stamina for fitness, I got combatjumpin, super jump, acrobatics for fightin, n for speed i grab hasten. I went with them cuz of the knockback n endurance issues i had. I wanted to try just human form, i might make a second build n try the nova, n white dwarf.
BABIMAMI, you can always use your second build available at any trainer so you don't HAVE to alt. It's a great feature that lets you test out just what you described. Plus, you can respec one or the other and hold on to a 'mint condition' build that you like. I like the ability to actually rename the builds, too.
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Yeah i use the human shields and my nova transformation allot
so i'm working (very very very hard) on getting my first warshade ^_^ (currently my hero is lvl 30 (20 more lvls till warshade !!!! =o )
and i was just looking at the warshade stuff... looks like 25 powers in total to unlock which means that without powerpools i can unlock ALL the powers...
is this wise? or should i get powerpools? and if so, which ones?