Suggestions for Drawing Tablet/Software?


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Looking at all the artwork in this forum, I'd like to get back into drawing/painting again. I havent done any art since college.

Any suggestions for an inexpensive pc drawing tablet and painting software?
I have Adobe Photoshop Elements 6 (bundled with my PC), which I consider to be royal pain to use even touching up photographs -- I'd like something a bit easier to use and with more functionality.


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If your looking for something with decent features that's cheap, you might want to check out artrage. It's got some good functionality. It's main drawback is a lack of scaling/transformation tools, but if you can survive that it's pretty good.


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Any suggesions on a tablet? Wacoms appear to be the most popular choice on Amazon - but fairly expensive.


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I, too, would be interested in purchasing a tablet. If anyone could offer suggestions that work well and aren't incredibly expensive it would be much appreciated.


 

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Originally Posted by Hercules View Post
Any suggestions on a tablet? Wacoms appear to be the most popular choice on Amazon - but fairly expensive.

You'd be a little loopy to go with anything else. Wacom is by far the industry standard. I make do with a wacom bamboo fun. it gives you the basic feel just not as intuitive as an intuos

Software wise. I use photoshop. like juggers said it can be a ***** when you start but once you get the understanding down it becomes simple. but I've heard good things about painter I myself ocasionally use painter essential's whitch is the dumbed down version (actually comes with wacom bamboo fun pack ). some folks use gimp. and there are a slew of others I cant think of

Edit : Yeah tablets are expensive. but they do make life easier.


 

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I think it depends on size, as far as tablets go. I have a small (teeny, actually) Wacom, because the smallest size was all I could afford at the time. I haven't used it much, partly because I have trouble getting the settings I want with Corel Photopaint, but from my limited experience, I've found that you can get the job done nicely with a small one (ok, stop that now..

I would love Photoshop, but the last time I looked, CS4 was $1000 on the Adobe site. That's just stupid. Can you, Jug, or anyone else who might know, enlighten me regarding Photoshop Elements - Elements is considerably less expensive than the full monty, but nowhere have I seen a description of the functions available under Photoshop Elements. Is it a painting package in it's own right, without all the video-editing etc that comes with the full CS4 deal? All I want is the painting bit, so if Elements has that, I can maybe realistically plan to get it one day...


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CS4 was $1000 on the Adobe site. That's just stupid.
that's probably why it is widely pirated


 

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Not that I'm really using it for drawing exactly (I'm more getting into the whole graphic design side of things, so the application is a bit different) but I'm quite happy with my (old style) Wacom Bamboo Fun (the small one). EDIT: Correcting this bit. The new Bamboo line is 1024 levels of pressure sensitivity.

But it's pretty inexpensive and I'd consider it a good starting point if one is on a budget. They just came out with a new line so the Bamboo line is now split into a bunch of different products. One with multitouch sensitivity (fingers), one with pen and multitouch sensitivity, and your standard pen tablet. Then there's the Bamboo Fun itself which is pen and touch enabled, with a larger active area.

Wacom is pretty much the gold standard when it comes to tablets. When I was researching my purchase, none of the other brands even seemed to come close to them.


 

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Yes the Bamboo line is great, not the old Bamboo which is fine for starting on, but since Wacom has upgraded the line, don't waste your money on those...

IT'S ALL ABOUT THE PRESSURE LEVELS.

I wouldn't settle for anything less than 1,024 which use to be only available on a pricier model (the Intuos 3 and up). Now the starting Bamboo, the Bamboo Fun and Bamboo craft all have 1,024 to start with... check here to make sure you are looking at the NEW BOXES and DESIGN.

I'm not sure about the Bamboo Pen or Bamboo Touch on that line, cause the specs for pressure levels aren't given. But maybe in the store you can ask, or test it. Make sure you are talking to someone who knows more than you do, and not some seasonal punk there to sell whatever...

Also because this is a new line, a lot of stores will sell their floor models for ridiculous prices, shop around. Even the Bamboo Fun which is $199 is cheaper than the Intuos 3 of the same size. Now why are pressure levels so important? Well it's the difference of the tablet picking up a thick to thin line, which is normally how most people draw depending on how hard they push down on the pencil. Same thing here, the tablet with 1,024 levels will recognize your attempt at making lighter lines.

You would think that a tablet with half that could do it, BUT IT CAN'T! So if the box says it has 512 levels of pressure, put it down unless it fell off a truck. Then try it once, save up for a real tablet and use that thing as a door stop!

EDIT: yeah did some more clicking on those $69 Bamboo Pen & Bamboo Touch models, 512s both... run from them, give your $69 to me if you want to throw your money away. These two models are just like the Bamboos of old, so what have we learned kiddies? Always check the box, listen to your Uncle LJ, and eat your veggies!


 

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^^ what she said


 

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listen to your Uncle LJ[/I]
Lol wouldn't that be Auntie Lady Judgement? Uncle Lady Judgement sends such a mixed message.

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^^ what she said
Not helping lol.

All kidding aside I'm looking at getting a tablet at some point as well and my early research
into the options available backup what is being said already.

Link --->Newegg is a good place to start and the link shows 53 different tablets and reviews by people who
bought them (click the gold eggs below the thumbnails to read reviews). The most reviewed
one is called Genius but they are not all good reviews lol.
Ultimately it depends what you want in a tablet as there are several people saying "such and such
tablet works great for me but I'm a novice at this" so if your needs are minimal then one of those
might do but almost anyone that is talking about doing serious work is talking Wacom. Hate it when
one company dominates the field and never has to compete or lower prices ever.

As for software again Photoshop is the industry standard... I have used CS and Elements both... the
best way I can describe elements is it's about 80% of what CS has for about 35% of CS's cost.
What's missing? you can get the list right from adobe.com with their "compare versions" tool but
suffice to say the top tier tools pros use and some of their flashier stuff (like the healing tool) but
most all of the core functionality is there.
There are discounts available for upgrades and for student teacher (if you are one or know any), but
even then they cost over $100 bucks so as ES mentioned they are heavily pirated for that reason.
Also heard good things about ArtRage and Painter (full version).

Hope this helps and let us know what you guys end up with and how it works out for you.



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Lol wouldn't that be Auntie Lady Judgement? Uncle Lady Judgement sends such a mixed message.

That's Mr. Uncle Lady Judgement to you...

AS to having Elements over CS x, I'd have to go back to see the real differences of things I need to have to use. Off the top of my head, I NEED, the lasso tool, layers, certain brushes, and the smudge tool.

As for Painter's lesser version cousin, just say no. It is light years away from the original, and so many other programs can do it better for less.
I really liked SAI, but not sure of it's price.