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Originally Posted by Arcanaville
This also means that while SR has no protection against non-positional psionics, Nin has no special vulnerability to them (its defenses are also positional, but the psi resistance combined with the heal mean it has reasonable coverage there).
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I've never played SR before and just started a BS/SR scrapper. In my mind the 3 positional defenses covered everything. What is "non-positional" and what other than psionics has that?
I also thought that adding special defense for say toxic damage from an IO set would stack on top of the positional defense. Wrong?
There are a couple mind attacks that have no positional components to them.
Attacks normally are something like melee/nrg damage or smashing/neg nrg. These psy attacks are typed as just psy.
Meaning against a couple attacks /SR has no defense against.
Really not much to worry about as a first time /sr player.
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Originally Posted by JeetKuneDo
I'm a little short on information here.
I've never played SR before and just started a BS/SR scrapper. In my mind the 3 positional defenses covered everything. What is "non-positional" and what other than psionics has that? I also thought that adding special defense for say toxic damage from an IO set would stack on top of the positional defense. Wrong? |
There are some powers set as autohit like one of Romulus' fluffies in the last mission of the ITF.
There is no toxic defense, but if you were to get some psionic or smashing defense, this would NOT stack on your positional defense. More positional defense would.
Be well, people of CoH.
Thanks guys. That's makes it a bit clearer.
I guess I was thinking in terms of stacking like 1.5% cold defense "stacking" with melee defense when it was a cold/melee attack. So if I had 38% melee defense+1.5% cold defense that would be 39.5% defense against that particular attack. Would that be correct?
Nope. For a cold/melee attack, it would only be checked against your 38% melee defense (the higher value) and ignore the 1.5% cold defense.
Be well, people of CoH.
Agreeing with others, the non-positional attacks are simply not an issue in practice. You won't be able to solo Malaise as an AV without a supply of purple inspirations. That's about all I've noticed in game. I think a few other AVs have non-positional psi attacks, but don't spam them the way Malaise does. Purples would help there, but weren't necessary. If you don't want to solo AVs or EBs, you may never even notice a problem.
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The average SR player might not notice *explicitly* but I think the lack of protection to non-positional psi does have an impact on SR's performance vs Lost and Rikti missions, and it also has some impact on running Carnie missions (specifically missions with lots of Illusionists). Non-positional psi is not very common, but its also not as rare as some people think it is (you see it as early as the yellow tsoo ink men).
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Originally Posted by Werner
Agreeing with others, the non-positional attacks are simply not an issue in practice. You won't be able to solo Malaise as an AV without a supply of purple inspirations. That's about all I've noticed in game. I think a few other AVs have non-positional psi attacks, but don't spam them the way Malaise does. Purples would help there, but weren't necessary. If you don't want to solo AVs or EBs, you may never even notice a problem.
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I prefer SR to Nin simply because SR is more of a passive defense set. Turn on the toggles, set Practiced Brawler on auto, and forget about it.
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Nope. For a cold/melee attack, it would only be checked against your 38% melee defense (the higher value) and ignore the 1.5% cold defense.
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Ah well...it was a nice thought this "stacking" thing I had going. Ignorance can be bliss.
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...Though the LGTF suddenly sounds very scary after seeing that "Rikti missions" thing above.
"Bring purples" I guess?
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Having run an LGTF with a non-soft-capped Claws/SR scrapper (I'm just kinda lazy about doing the respec on him >.>), and fought Rikti plenty a time on him, the mezzing Rikti don't actually hit that hard with their mezzes. They're more meant to render you immobile while that big Chief Soldier brings his giant sword of mess-you-up to bear, so just be careful with not forgetting about PB, and you're fine.|
Originally Posted by JeetKuneDo
Well I am disillusioned! That's it! I quit! Who wants my stuff?
Ah well...it was a nice thought this "stacking" thing I had going. Ignorance can be bliss. Since this is my first try at it, I would have to be labeled as "below average"...so I'm sure not to notice! ...Though the LGTF suddenly sounds very scary after seeing that "Rikti missions" thing above. "Bring purples" I guess? |
Carnies, on the other hand? *shudders*
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Originally Posted by Back Alley Brawler
Did you just use "casual gamer" and "purpled-out warshade" in the same sentence?
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Or maybe Ninjitsu is just OP?
thought I'd just drop that in.... ;-)
btw, sorry for the controversy. Didn't mean to cause such a stir when just going for a cheap shot at ninjitsu.