Favorites List


anachrodragon

 

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Favorites list

There's a growing consensus that a "favorites list" would be a helpful feature in AE.

This would be much better as a built-in feature of the AE interface, but until the devs get around to adding that, I figure I can maintain my own.

Feel free to add your own favorites here as well. But, I'd like to request that we all follow the same ground rules:


1. You can't list your own arc as a favorite. (Otherwise everyone will.)

2. You must've played through the arc at least 3 times, and at least one of these times should've been purely for fun; i.e., not for review, not because you owe them a play through, and not just because you're trying to satisfy this rule -- honor system on this. (Can't really say an arc is a "favorite" if you only run it once, ever, after all.)

3. The arc can't be a farm. (The most obvious way to get someone to play it 3 times.)


These don't seem like very strict rules, but actually I've played/replayed surprisingly few arcs 3 times.



With those rules in mind, so far on my "favorites" list is:


Nuclear in 90 - The Fusionette TF
Arc Id: 58363
Morality: Heroic
Level range: 1-14

It's admittedly not the deepest, most dramatic story arc I've played, but it IS fun. Fusionette and the other Nuclear 90 are charmingly characterized and the debriefings made me crave for hamburgers. It's designed to be suitable for lowbies, and with my rampant altitis, I find that I keep playing it over and over with newbie characters.


Escalation
Arc ID: 6143
Morality: Heroic
Level range: 21-50

The antagonist has an unusual but neat superpower that is cleverly handled, and the grudge match with the player is very comic booky and fun. I didn't originally rate this arc that high, but over time it's clear that the author has taken every review and bit of feedback as an opportunity to improve the story, and it really shows. The arc is full of little details that make it more cool.

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Consolidated list of other posters' favorites

Bubbawheat's favorites
A Tangle in Time (arc id 2622, level 5-50)

Lazarus's favorites
The Extadine Lab (arc id 2595, level 40-50)

londerwost's favorites
Blight (arc id 140423, level 40-50)
Rick Hall R[EVOL]UTION (Wake up, America!) (arc id 166081, level 41-50)

Eva Destruction's favorites
Ctrl + Alt + Reset (arc id 137561, level 15-30)
The Extadine Lab (arc id 2595, level 40-50)

anarchodragon's favorites
Bricked Electronics (arc id 2180, level 8-20)
Captain Dynamic, the Great, Faces The Great Face (arc id 190069, level 30-50)
Rick Hall R[EVOL]UTION (Wake up, America!) (arc id 166081, level 41-50)

Venture's favorites
Escalation (arc id 6143, level 21-50)

MrCaptainMan's favorites
The Consequences of War, pts 1 and 2 (arc ids 227331 & 241496, level 40-50)
The Tubbius Trilogy (arc id ?, level ?)
Celebrity Kidnapping (arc id 1388, level 30-40)


@PW - Police Woman (50 AR/dev blaster on Liberty)
TALOS - PW war journal - alternate contact tree using MA story arcs
=VICE= "Give me Liberty, or give me debt!"

 

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A Tangle in Time #2622 by @jjac

It was referred to me by someone that played my time travel arc, and I really enjoyed it and have played it a few times, and really the only arc I've played more than once besides my own, and besides some that I've reviewed and felt I needed to go back for more details.

I did have an idea for another thread while I was looking through my completed arcs list though...

... as well as a good reason to go back and play some of my "favorites" that just haven't gotten a second go around yet.


 

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Hm... If I might comment on your rules, PW.

I have two grown children who, though they've allegedly moved out, are still a couple of handfuls; a 7 1/2 month old baby; a house with a large yard desperately in need of mowing and other such stiff; oh, and a full time job. I'm running two super groups (with a website that's criminally behind on updating) and am trying to keep my two arcs as state-of-the-art as I can. I have a list of arcs a page long that I either owe runs to or want to run, and I've seen a dozen others that have interested me. My wife and I *try* to game together, so any time I have to actually play is almost always with her and - as you might note from the aforementioned "stuff" - it is very limited lately.

In short, as much as there are several arcs I've run that I'd *love* to have the leisure to run again... and again... "It ain't a happnin' thang." Heck I've had to stop four times just in the middle of this post.

I can respect, and even understand, your rule for multiple plays, but if you want me to participate - or others in similar boats - then that rule's going to have to be re-thunk. In the mean time, I'll watch your thread and probably add each of the arcs listed to my every-growing list.


The SOLUS Foundation - a Liberty and Pinnacle SG

"The Consequences of War" - Arcs # 227331 and 241496

 

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"The Extadine Lab" by @Vanden

It's a single fun mission and the only AE that I've played over a dozen times. (Largely because it's so short.)


 

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Blight - arc# 140423
by Witch_Engine

Hands down my favorite. We've taken teams through it a couple of times just for fun.


 

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Ctrl + Alt + Reset by Bubbawheat.
It's shorter than it looks, and a good go-to arc when I'm in that level range and don't feel like looking for something my level. Plus all the optional clues in that one mission are neat, every time I've run it I've caught a referrence I missed before.

That's pretty much the only one I can think of, but there are lots of arcs I've run twice.


Eva Destruction AR/Fire/Munitions Blaster
Darkfire Avenger DM/SD/Body Scrapper

Arc ID#161629 Freaks, Geeks, and Men in Black
Arc ID#431270 Until the End of the World

 

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It is difficult enough for me to find the time to run the arcs in my review queue; I certainly don't have the time to run arcs other than my own more than once. (My own I re-run every issue to look for new bugs.)


Current Blog Post: "Why I am an Atheist..."
"And I say now these kittens, they do not get trained/As we did in the days when Victoria reigned!" -- T. S. Eliot, "Gus, the Theatre Cat"

 

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It is difficult enough for me to find the time to run the arcs in my review queue; I certainly don't have the time to run arcs other than my own more than once. (My own I re-run every issue to look for new bugs.)
I think that's true with everyone, notice that those that are listing their favorites are only listing one? I imagine that's because everyone's mostly in the same boat. I know that's true with me, I'm always looking for arcs I haven't played over ones I have.


 

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Also note all the low- to mid-level arcs being listed.

"The Extadine Lab" is a single mission, the kind of arc I'd replay if I needed half a bar to level and didn't feel like looking for anything new to try, since decent short arcs are hard to find amid a sea of farms and other garbage.


Eva Destruction AR/Fire/Munitions Blaster
Darkfire Avenger DM/SD/Body Scrapper

Arc ID#161629 Freaks, Geeks, and Men in Black
Arc ID#431270 Until the End of the World

 

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With your restrictions in mind, here's what's on my recommended list so far:

Bricked Electronics - Arc 2180 - by GlaziusF
Probably the lowbie arc I've played most. An interesting story, along with an underused villain group, and great missions. One of my standard arcs for my lowbie alts.

Captain Dynamic, the Great, Faces The Great Face - Arc 190069 - by Airhead
I confess, I actually played this twice for a review... then I might have just happened to play it again on my own. Amusing and absurd.

Rick Hall R[EVOL]UTION (Wake up, America!) - Arc 166081 - by Princess Bubblegum
I kind of regret putting this on this list. It's a seriously guilty pleasure, and blatant political satire. That said, I've played it several times and would gladly play it again (as would any freedom loving American). WE'LL DO IT LIVE!


 

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Originally Posted by Dalghryn
as much as there are several arcs I've run that I'd *love* to have the leisure to run again... and again... "It ain't a happnin' thang."
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Originally Posted by Venture
It is difficult enough for me to find the time to run the arcs in my review queue; I certainly don't have the time to run arcs other than my own more than once.

Truthfully, the 3 replays rule is really strict. I came up with the rules before I really thought about what would qualify, and although I've played 100+ story arcs, I still have very few arcs even close to qualifying for this standard.

I thought about errataing it to "Recommended" arcs that I gave 5 stars to (on my one play through, usually). But haven't done this yet.

The reason for this? Well, this is meant to be a "favorites" thread, and I don't think I can reasonably say something is my "favorite" if I only do it once. Maybe not even if I do it twice. I would never bookmark a web site that I don't expect to revisit over and over, and I would never put a song on my iPod's "My Favorite Music" mix unless I would like to hear it over and over. That's kind of what "favorites" means to me.

Also, my criteria for wanting to play or re-play something for fun are somewhat different than my criteria for giving it a 5 star rating. I know this isn't true for everyone, but it is for me. I try to be impartial enough on ratings to give 5 stars to well-crafted stories that I don't personally like, and give fewer stars to arcs that I just love the idea of, but that still have room to improve. I'm not perfect at this, but it's what I try to work towards. So I feel that "3 replays" can actually give slightly different information than a "what I've rated 5 stars" thread.


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That said, let me add an arc to my "favorites" list:

Escalation
Arc ID: 6143
Morality: Heroic
Level range: 21-50

The antagonist has an unusual but neat superpower that is cleverly handled, and the grudge match with the player is very comic booky and fun. I didn't originally rate this arc that high, but over time it's clear that the author has taken every review and bit of feedback as an opportunity to improve the story, and it really shows. The arc is full of little details that make it more cool.


@PW - Police Woman (50 AR/dev blaster on Liberty)
TALOS - PW war journal - alternate contact tree using MA story arcs
=VICE= "Give me Liberty, or give me debt!"

 

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Also, there's a few threads already you could dig up to post your highly rated one-play arcs.


 

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Rick Hall R[EVOL]UTION (Wake up, America!) - Arc 166081 - by Princess Bubblegum
I kind of regret putting this on this list. It's a seriously guilty pleasure, and blatant political satire. That said, I've played it several times and would gladly play it again (as would any freedom loving American). WE'LL DO IT LIVE!
I have to admit, I've played this on no less than 3 teams and I've even solo'd this on invincible up to the AV at the end (back before the author whimped out and made him an EB). This is a very, very fun arc.


 

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Escalation
Arc ID: 6143
Morality: Heroic
Level range: 21-50


Actually this is the only arc other than my own I think I've played three times...twice for reviews and once to squishy-test it out of curiosity. And it's a five-star work I'd class as an exemplar.


Current Blog Post: "Why I am an Atheist..."
"And I say now these kittens, they do not get trained/As we did in the days when Victoria reigned!" -- T. S. Eliot, "Gus, the Theatre Cat"

 

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You are a tough cookie PW! I have played at least a few 100 arcs by now. Early on I would spend an hour a evening playing (often more like attempting to play) unrated/unplayed arcs. Aside from my own arcs and the ones I have replayed for reviews or just helping people fine tune arcs I can't really think of any I have played three times or more.

WN


Check out one of my most recent arcs:
457506 - A Very Special Episode - An abandoned TV, a missing kid's TV show host and more
416951 - The Ms. Manners Task Force - More wacky villains, Wannabes. things in poor taste

or one of my other arcs including two 2010 Player's Choice Winners and an2009 Official AE Awards Nominee for Best Original Story

 

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Introspection

Some musings....

Even on the "MA Stories" forum, where the most rabid fans of story-oriented AE hang out, very few people play any story arc (not written by themselves) more than once. Several people who I know have played 100+ arcs (including myself), could only come up with 0 to 2 arcs they've played 3 times and would recommend as favorites.

For my own part (note: purely anecdotal evidence warning), I know I've played through Azuria's missions, Kalinda's story arc, the Bonefire arc, the Striga story arcs, the Croatoa story arcs, the RWZ story arcs, Westin Phipp's story arc, Seer Marino's story arc, all at least 5 times each. Some of them maybe dozens of times. But for the most part, the PvE content isn't as cool as the best of the AE content. So why do I keep replaying it?

Granted, most of the dev-created content has been around a lot longer than AE, and so naturally would've gotten replayed more times. But is that the only reason?

Thinking about it, the most avid AE fans (or at least the sample that frequent this forum) have played hundreds of story arcs, but re-play almost no story arcs. Could this be a factor in why AE seems to be in decline? Maybe a lot of the people who really like AE have already played most of the content they're interested in, and aren't interested in re-playing it? (Note: Speculation.)

Riddle: what makes a story arc replayable, that would bring someone (other than the author) to come back and play it again and again?

I don't know yet.

But I'd be interested in finding out.


@PW - Police Woman (50 AR/dev blaster on Liberty)
TALOS - PW war journal - alternate contact tree using MA story arcs
=VICE= "Give me Liberty, or give me debt!"

 

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I know I've played through Azuria's missions, Kalinda's story arc, the Bonefire arc, the Striga story arcs, the Croatoa story arcs, the RWZ story arcs, Westin Phipp's story arc, Seer Marino's story arc, all at least 5 times each.

Well, starting arcs are starting arcs, and if you're not the type to just jump to a PL/sewer team (or bank farm on redside), then you'll see those arcs alot. But what you've picked here tend to be some of the better arcs that most people will run into without having to jump through a lot of hoops in order to unlock (or will outlevel without ever having seen them). But in the PVE content, you're sort of on a (often branching) rail on who your Toon gets as a contact and the opportunities to play through storylines. I feel like with the AE story arcs, it's more like you're at a bizaar where you have the opportunity to sample literally thousands of vendors and attractions - but you'll never have the time to try it all out.

I know that I'm rarely replaying a AE Story Arc more than twice because there's simply too much potential content to find on the AE system. I'm frequently coming back here to see what looks good, or just sifting through the (not very helpful) search function to find something interesting. As I've said before, i16's SSK system is opening things up for me so I can take higher toons through lower level arcs and still advance them. So, if I liked it solo on one alt, I might grab some SG/VG-mates to run it on a different (higher or lower) alt. More often than that, it's not to say that the arc doesn't deserve it, but that I feel like there are more opportunities out there that I could be spending my time on.

As for the purposes of "favorites", I think your criteria is fine and I agree with your analogy with bookmarks and playlists. Unfortunately, I just can't contribute to the list of arcs. :/


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Can You WIN the Internet? MA Arc #85544
Inhuman Resources - At Work with IE #298132
Task Force Mutternacht #349522 <-- 1st AE Challenge

 

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I know that I'm rarely replaying a AE Story Arc more than twice because there's simply too much potential content to find on the AE system.

We have a winner.

I'm not likely to start replaying many arcs when there's so many I haven't played even once yet.


Current Blog Post: "Why I am an Atheist..."
"And I say now these kittens, they do not get trained/As we did in the days when Victoria reigned!" -- T. S. Eliot, "Gus, the Theatre Cat"

 

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I know that I'm rarely replaying a AE Story Arc more than twice because there's simply too much potential content to find on the AE system.

We have a winner.

I'm not likely to start replaying many arcs when there's so many I haven't played even once yet.

Agreed.


WN


Check out one of my most recent arcs:
457506 - A Very Special Episode - An abandoned TV, a missing kid's TV show host and more
416951 - The Ms. Manners Task Force - More wacky villains, Wannabes. things in poor taste

or one of my other arcs including two 2010 Player's Choice Winners and an2009 Official AE Awards Nominee for Best Original Story

 

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Agreed.


WN
I'm in exactly the same boat; I totally agree. I like PW's idea here, but I know in my case the "played three times" requirement means that there's only one arc I've played that would even qualify (at least off the top of my head): it was a very good arc, but there have been plenty more that I think are at least as good.


M.A. Arcs
Intended for high level play: The Primus Trilogy (Arc #s 10931, 283821, 283825), "Freakshow U" (Arc #189073), Purification (Arc #352381, Dev's Choice! )
Intended for low level play: "Learning the Ropes" (Arc #100304), "Cracking Skulls" (Arc #115935), "The Lazarus Project" (Arc #124906)

 

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[QUOTE=PoliceWoman;2283252]The reason for this? Well, this is meant to be a "favorites" thread, and I don't think I can reasonably say something is my "favorite" if I only do it once. Maybe not even if I do it twice. I would never bookmark a web site that I don't expect to revisit over and over, and I would never put a song on my iPod's "My Favorite Music" mix unless I would like to hear it over and over. That's kind of what "favorites" means to me.
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It takes but a second to revisit a favourite website, and minutes to listen to a favourite song again on an mp3 player. Playing an arc is a different kettle of fish, and takes up far more of my limited time.

I also am prohibited from adding any arcs to your thread because of the 3 plays rule, which is a shame. Starting another thread 'Favourites you don't have to have played 3 times' would be silly, however, so I'm going to willfully break your rule here and put some favourites up anyway.

The Consequences of War, pts 1 and 2 - details are in Dal's sig.

The Tubbius Trilogy by @Tubbius

Celebrity kidnapping, by, er, you, PW.

I have actually played Celebrity Kidnapping 3 times as it happens, but once was for a review. I've also played the Tubbius arcs 2 or 3 times each, again for reviews however. CoW, I've only played once, but...what a play it was! I do intend to play it again at some stage now that the Carnie Tent map's been replaced by an RWZ one, but time is tight unfortunately, and my list is long.

Eco.


MArcs:

The Echo, Arc ID 1688 (5mish, easy, drama)
The Audition, Arc ID 221240 (6 mish, complex mech, comedy)
Storming Citadel, Arc ID 379488 (lowbie, 1mish, 10-min timed)

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[The Incarnate System is] Jack Emmert all over again, only this time it's not "1 hero = 3 white minions" it's "1 hero = 3 white rocks."

 

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For my own part (note: purely anecdotal evidence warning), I know I've played through Azuria's missions, Kalinda's story arc, the Bonefire arc, the Striga story arcs, the Croatoa story arcs, the RWZ story arcs, Westin Phipp's story arc, Seer Marino's story arc, all at least 5 times each. Some of them maybe dozens of times. But for the most part, the PvE content isn't as cool as the best of the AE content. So why do I keep replaying it?

Riddle: what makes a story arc replayable, that would bring someone (other than the author) to come back and play it again and again?
Interesting point. The reason I have played (and will agan) all the Striga content over and over, I think, is that it's familiar, the same every time, not bugged for the most part, and most importantly, there's a LOT of content that's all sort of connected. It's in the same zone, the contacts are all loosely connected, and there's a progression of arcs that lead up to the TF. AE content obviously doesn't have any zone of its own, and the arcs can be sometimes relatively short. There's debate about how long is too long for an arc, etc, but something like the Faultline arcs I view as all part of one overrecahing super-arc. If the individual arcs in Faultline were scattered across random zones, I don't think they'd have the same feeling. For me, I mean. Others may of course differ.

Eco.


MArcs:

The Echo, Arc ID 1688 (5mish, easy, drama)
The Audition, Arc ID 221240 (6 mish, complex mech, comedy)
Storming Citadel, Arc ID 379488 (lowbie, 1mish, 10-min timed)

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[The Incarnate System is] Jack Emmert all over again, only this time it's not "1 hero = 3 white minions" it's "1 hero = 3 white rocks."

 

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I know that I'm rarely replaying a AE Story Arc more than twice because there's simply too much potential content to find on the AE system.
This seems to be the consensus answer for why people don't replay arcs, and it sounds pretty believable to me. People like shiny new things, and in AE there's lots more things you haven't seen yet.

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It takes but a second to revisit a favourite website, and minutes to listen to a favourite song again on an mp3 player. Playing an arc is a different kettle of fish, and takes up far more of my limited time.
Valid point on the mp3 song. I'd beg to differ on web sites, a favorite web site can suck me in for an hour or more: browsing forums, yard saling on ebay or half.com, reading articles on news sites, etc. Though web sites have the advantage that there is new content each time you check back. Could dynamic content be a way to get people to come back again and again? I remember there was an arc for a "Dungeon Crawl" that was advertised for awhile as supposedly being populated with different custom mobs each week; I wonder how successful that was?

Maybe a better analogy would be a list of favorite movies or TV shows. Watching a movie takes a pretty large investment of my time (1-2 hours, more than most story arcs), yet there are certain movies I'll watch again and again; and that I'll buy on DVD just so I can watch them whenever I want. This is true even though there is an endless well of other movies that I've never seen before. And then there are other movies that I'll watch once, and even if it's pretty good, I might not want to watch it again.

I did end up weakening the "played 3 times" to only require one play-through to be "for fun". (Yes, I did this even before MrCaptainMan posted one of my arcs as a favorite. ) I do feel like you need to play an arc at least once for fun, because an arc you played 3 times because you had to (for QPQ, re-reviews, or whatever) and never just for the joy of it, doesn't seem like it should be a "favorite" to me.

Anyway, this is a nice discussion. It's been quite interesting reading people's opinions on this subject.


@PW - Police Woman (50 AR/dev blaster on Liberty)
TALOS - PW war journal - alternate contact tree using MA story arcs
=VICE= "Give me Liberty, or give me debt!"