Do we need an Official RPing server?


Animorph

 

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Originally Posted by Animorph View Post
Just finished visiting Pocket D where a "RP" SG was arguing with a group of nonRPers and telling them to go to another server. Was somewhat funny to watch. I really enjoy seeing two people start a fight online and hear them talk about how they're gonna kick each other's butts if they don't shut up and leave.

Like either could really do anything.

But it got me thinking, I remember that WoW has official RP servers where if even your name wasn't good enough they would ban you from the server. Would you want Virtue to be like that?

Part of me would, I think since AE was introduced there's been alot more idiots on Virtue and a whole heck of a lot more Marvel/DC clones. Call me biased but I wouldn't mind it going back to being mostly RPers around Virtue.

If the devs ever did make Virtue the Official RPing server do you think that it would hurt them in the long run with people getting kicked/leaving Virtue?
I've been on Official RP servers with WAR and I have to say, Virtue is alot more RP friendly, as an unofficial server, than the Official server in WAR. Unless the company is prepared to have alot of CS reps who do nothing but enforce RP policy, it's simply not going to work.

First, labeling something as Official RP will attract RP griefers en masse. Second, petty arguements about the official rules will break out. Third, it will be ultimately up to the community to police themselves, which is what we're already doing.

So there's no real advantage at this point of making an "official RP" server. Virtue is, quite honestly, about as good as it gets.


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This is over the top mental slavery.

 

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I can understand a non-RPer to be curious and pop his head in just to see what the hub-bub is about. But I don't know; I can't help but feel the only other reason that non-RPers go to PD is to actively grief other players who are just trying to have fun. I think it's a shame that people feel the need to ruin it for others. We all pay monthly to exist in the same game world. We shouldn't have to put up with it.
And thats why we have /ignore


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This is over the top mental slavery.

 

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And thats why we have /ignore
Normally I'd agree... But then you have those grief types who run aound and push people off stools and constantly spam their buffing powers to knock people out of their chose idle animations. Sort of makes me wish we had some kind of "accept buff" prompt that we can set to "always deny buffs" in the options.

Or if we ignore a person, it would automatically deny buffs, make them physically invisible, and intangible to our characters (which would obviously be disabled in PvP zones). Overkill? Maybe. But just doing the /ignore as it is now doesn't guarantee an imediate grief-free experience.


 

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Only if they let me move all 30 of my toons off this server for free.


I was on virtue, before it was the "Official Unofficial Official, etc. etc.. RP Server)
Pretty much this. The appropriate time to flag any server the official server for anything was about... five and a half years ago. Doing it now would entail booting a majority of the population off of the server.

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I can vouch for this, back on sentinels when i played wow, alot of the people on there just came to the server so they didn't have to deal with tards, sure the rpers were pretentious and snobby "you can't rp in this spot, i icly own it, i got ignore as my police force" but it was a well mixed community in the end even if i hate the server.
Hell, the entire reason I'm on Virtue is that my friends way back when heard it was the RP server, and came here for a hopefully more mature crowd. I only afterward got sucked into the RP.

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Or if we ignore a person, it would automatically deny buffs, make them physically invisible, and intangible to our characters (which would obviously be disabled in PvP zones). Overkill? Maybe. But just doing the /ignore as it is now doesn't guarantee an imediate grief-free experience.
I've always wanted this option... Ignore gets rid of tells and speech, but those are hardly the best way of griefing people to begin with.


Having Vengeance and Fallout slotted for recharge means never having to say you're sorry.

 

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Here's my question: what are the non-RPers doing in Pocket D to begin with?

I made a character on Pinnacle nearly a year ago on a request of one of my RL friends. He'd never set foot into Pocket D beforehand, and thought the setup was pretty cool. But, there was absolutely noone there. Not a soul but the two of us. He said that there was never a reason to be there. Not even as a thru-traffic to get to Faultline.

I can understand a non-RPer to be curious and pop his head in just to see what the hub-bub is about. But I don't know; I can't help but feel the only other reason that non-RPers go to PD is to actively grief other players who are just trying to have fun. I think it's a shame that people feel the need to ruin it for others. We all pay monthly to exist in the same game world. We shouldn't have to put up with it.
Just a few reasons.
  • Cut through access to a few zones.
  • Easy place to get to to buy small inspirations.
  • Combined hero and villain arena terminals. (main reason for me)
  • Holiday Events (both Valetine's Day and Christmas events are held there)
  • Easiest place to find RPers to grief


Paragonian Knights
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Pocket D is the easiest place to find RPers to grief. An official RP server would have RPers all over the place, and also people would have more places to grief RPers. To make an official RP server would perhaps add more RPing to the game, but it'd also add problems by increasing griefers. It's using a flamethrower to kill a fly. It'd kill the fly, but it'd also cause many problems with it.

Since Virtue is the unofficial RP server, you're using a fly swatter to kill a fly. You can kill the fly, and have some mess afterwards, but it's not hard to manage the mess.


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I love the hysteria over a tag, that will never come. An RP tag doesn't destroy anything of the things, I see people upset about might happen.

I also disagree roleplayers are less tolerant. In fact, show me a server with an RP tag (in games that have them), and I'll show you one of the most pleasant servers to play on in terms of maturity. So much so, that roleplayers become the minority on RP-tag servers, because so many non-roleplayers will join an RP server, because they are so tolerant and pleasant to play on.

Not that it matters, it will never happen, but for the records RP tags aren't a mechanism to destroy or punish non-roleplayers, at least not to the hysteria and rants here suggest they are. They are mostly there to help newbies to the game find a place that will comfortably accept their hobby.

There are extreme examples where people had to change their name from Haxx0r M0mma had to something else, but in a Super Hero game, this is a perfectly acceptable name, perhaps a Freakshow-derived character or something. So even that would be tolerated in COH, an RP tag changes nothing.

With the tag, a new roleplayer, wouldn't have to google for an hour to find where roleplayers congregate, or wonder if roleplaying even exists in the game. They would know, the company would say, "you are welcome, and you are most welcome here". It's just a welcome mat, nothing more.

Seeing a number of threads on other game forums, and facebook asking if roleplayers play game A or B, or where roleplayers should go for game A and B, clearly there is a need for roleplayers to know this info, a tag helps ease this passage.

Is the tag vitally necessary? No. Am I upset there isn't one? No. If the tag did come, would it be a threat to non-roleplayers? No. Ask the hundreds of thousands of non-roleplayers on RP servers and they will tell you that it is not a threat.

Are roleplayers more intolerant than your average gamer? Sorry, in my experience that is a lie. We are just as tolerant and intolerant as any other gamer. We have the same weaknesses, no more, no less, myself included.

Really, in my experience, the most intolerant gamer, is the frustrated-power gamer, who insists his missions/quests/raids run like clockwork, and screams at his team when they don't. Where's that video of the WOW raid, where the guild leader is screaming into VENT about the end of the dungeon raid when it goes astray? Now that's intolerance. Fortunately it's a very small minority of power-gamers.

I roleplay in non-RP groups all the time, I get complaints, but they are rare. I've never seen roleplayers complain that a non-RP group isn't playing their character right. That's usually some nerd who has six level 50's of your exact archetype and feel compelled to lecture on how to play a kid's game, as if the silly game is actually a science instead of just the mindless distraction and amusing hobby that it is.

But, if you want to believe an RP tag would be apocalyptic, go ahead. It's not true in my experience, but perhaps my bias doesn't seem the utter catastrophe the tag would create.


 

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Even on Virtue outside the D you can get a little grief for RPing. Happened to me once even. Felt a little like talking on one of my characters and started up a little conversation near the tram in Talos. A very "friendly" fellow kept sending me "nice" little messages wondering why I was rolepaying in public.

Ah well I had fun with the talk and ignoring the "nice" little comments. Personally I just think you should let people play how they want where they want as long as they are not being rude, crude or totally disruptive.


 

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I think designating a server as the "official roleplaying server" would only serve to alienate the casual players and roleplayers - especially if rules were enforced as described above. More often than not I'm playing the game OOC just to have fun and normally only start roleplaying if someone else is doing it.

I also think it says a lot about a group of roleplayers if they throw a public hissy fit about people that have just as much of a right to be in Pocket D as they do, roleplaying or not. Public areas are, in fact, public.


@trumblonie

 

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I do not like the powergamers in this game. They exist, trust me. You need to be built a specific way, you need these powers, they need to be slotted this way, and some powers are useless in the game. If you do not have any set bonuses you cannot join their team because you'd "slow them down".

I have seen some of them on Virtue, but in general, most people on Virtue are more mature than that and won't tell you how to play. Also, if you have a concept for a character, on Virtue it'd work better than on other servers. We're more tolerant for those things.


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