Regen re-visited post i16

My appologies if I am kicking a dead horse but I searched through the forums and couldn't find answers to the questions I have. so, here goes.....

I have a lvl 50 spines/regen scrapper and I am looking to slot him with IO's. I am focusing on regen first. My spines does me well for now. Reading through the forums I noticed several things:

- The idea now is to slot lots of Rech so your DP and Reconstruction come up quicker.

I heard at one point that with proper IO slotting, you can get regen to work almost as good as it did prior to the regen nerf. One person event went so far as to say you can get regen rates almost as good as they were in i2. Can anyone confirm if this is in fact true though?

This sparked my attention of corse. Contrary to the spamming of DP and Recon idea, I want to get my actual regen rate up as high as possible. I have all the regen powers in the set along with Health and PP from the body mastery set. Am I wasting my time doing this or is it worth the trouble...and the massive amount of inf/tickets it will cost to slot all this?

- Numina (I think it's numina) IOs give 12% regen after 2 or 3. Wouldn't it make sense to put that IO set in all your regen powers? Wouldn't you then be stacking 12% regen 3 or 4 times over? Or am I missing something here?

-Any other ideas I may be missing, please let me know.

Any help would be apprecaited. Thanks all.

I can not confirm the i2 remake through IOs however I would suggest using sets not IOs, there are some pretty cheap Yellow and Orange sets that work and are pretty cheap.

As far as your question goes about Regen stack, the answer is Yes. Lets say you have a 5 of the Numina's (Recov/Regen excluded) in Dull Pain and Reconstruction, and your current Regen rate before slotting the Numina's is 100%

After 2 Numina's Set you Regen rate will be 124%.
The 6% heal increase does not increase your Regen further but it does increase the hard heal from DP and Recon.

If you have questions about the mathematics behind your character I would suggest downloading Mid's Hero Designer. It's a great tool and let you know everything you need to know about your build and allows you to view it's statistics once completed at Lv.50.

P.S. As far the i2 thing you might want to report this in the Scrapper/Stalker boards where the experts at those ATs search to help players with their questions. I always get answers in that board.

Goodluck and I hope everything work out for your build my friend

While it's pretty easy to get massive +regen bonuses, there's a point where it doesn't do as much good. I'm not enough of a math head to know it though. You can work on a healthy boost to base regen, but you end up getting more mileage out of decreasing the amount of incoming damage, and increased recharge.

No matter how much regen you have, it's going to be vulnerable to damage spikes. It's better to make sure your hit points are capped most of the time (easier with accolades than IOs), and then boost your recharge so that MoG and your heals are up as often as possible.

I have a claws/regen stalker and have 4 slotted most heals with 2 numinas and 2 miracles. (Usually heal/rech and heal/rech/end from both sets except for toggle powers where i slot heal/end and heal/rech/end). The 2 numinas give 12% regen and the 2 miracles give 2% recovery. Note you can only get 5x any set bonus so the most you can slot (and have the set bonus count) is 5 sets of 2 numinas to get 5 x 12% regen or 60% regen total. After you have 5 x 12% regen set bonuses the 6th etc will not count. Also it is not 5 numinas that you can slot, it is 5 set bonuses of 12% regen, so if you have another set that gives 12% regen that counts towards the 5 max you can have. Once you have 5 x 12% regen look for 10% regen which you can also slot 5 times, then 8% etc, etc.

Definitely check out mids hero designer - not only does it give all stats on build it also has a set bonus finder so you can search for all sets that give a regen bonus.

This all works for recharge too, though there the best recharge is the purple sets and you need extreme inf for those atm. Again mids will help you find cheaper recharge sets with the set bonus finder feature.

A note though on mids, while its still quite useful I believe it is a few issues in arrears - it doesn't have the new PVP sets for example - but its current to i13 or i14 I believe.

Hope this helps.

Supplemental to my last post I have 2 corrections to make - the miracle set gives 2.5% recovery when 2 slotted and it seems mids has an update for i16, though I encountered an error with the update and therefore cant check it out.

Also I would say that while both are good - recharge is the more inportant set bonus of the two you mention for your build.

Like what was already said, I'd recommend against trying to build for +regen. IMO, slotting for Defense and/or Recharge will get you the best results. Getting a decent amount of Defense (much less soft capping!) will make your character incredibly powerful.

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With the new PP, I easily managed to put together a build that has 760% regen and +18% HP. I also shot for some other bonuses though so it has +19% damage and some other things. Global recharge is only around 40%. But that's without any purples, LotGs, or much real investment time.

You might not be able to get to the old perma-IH levels, but once you have perma-Dull Pain and really high +regen bonuses along with the norm, plus high recharge bonuses, regen is quite durable.

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