Helping Mids along


Aett_Thorn

 

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I notice that there tends to be bits and pieces of unofficial Mid's updates from different individuals.

There's also the trend of having an official Mid's update be one huge update.

Two suggestions; consolidating comparable contributions then having these reviewed and put out, in smaller chunks, as official releases.


Take I16; some people have already figured out how to modify the database to allow for proliferated sets; take these; make sure they jive with the most recent live build and then offer that small inclusion as a small official release: Mids X.1

Someone else may have figured out how to code in a trigger that allows/disallows the Vet ability of getting Tier 3 Travel Pool powers at level 6; verify, integrate then release as Mids X.2

etc. (with focus on the easier changes first; saving structural changes for last)


Apparently, I play "City of Shakespeare"
*Arc #95278-Gathering the Four Winds -3 step arc; challenging - 5 Ratings/3 Stars (still working out the kinks)
*Arc #177826-Lights, Camera, Scream! - 3 step arc, camp horror; try out in 1st person POV - 35 Ratings/4 Stars

 

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Mid's has been updated for I16 by Steiner, known on the forums as St0ney.

Paragon Studios needs to do nothing to a third-party program that they don't make.


Let me never fall into the vulgar mistake of dreaming that I am persecuted whenever I am contradicted.
~Ralph Waldo Emerson

"I was just the one with the most unsolicited sombrero." - Traegus

 

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Originally Posted by Aett_Thorn View Post
Mid's has been updated for I16 by Steiner, known on the forums as St0ney.

Paragon Studios needs to do nothing to a third-party program that they don't make.
Last I checked, yesterday... it wasn't ready (so it is now; awesome) but is still applicable and relevant to any post-I16 releases and it wasn't a suggestion for Paragon Studios; it was a suggestion for those who were already contributing as well as the current editor... thought that was kind of obvious. :|


Apparently, I play "City of Shakespeare"
*Arc #95278-Gathering the Four Winds -3 step arc; challenging - 5 Ratings/3 Stars (still working out the kinks)
*Arc #177826-Lights, Camera, Scream! - 3 step arc, camp horror; try out in 1st person POV - 35 Ratings/4 Stars

 

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did you actually download stoney's mids version. it should have all the changes for i16 in it. there are several places on the forums that it can be found.


 

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Originally Posted by Aett_Thorn View Post
Mid's has been updated for I16 by Steiner, known on the forums as St0ney.
Steiner and St0n3y are different individuals. People were getting frustrated with Steiner for not updating Mids' fast enough for their liking (since he also manages other parts of the Titan Network), St0n3y created an excellent unofficial update, and Steiner brought him on as an official member of the Mids' team.


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Originally Posted by Yogi_Bare View Post
Last I checked, yesterday... it wasn't ready (so it is now; awesome)
It was ready yesterday. Note that the previous version of Mids' is pointing at Mids' website (honorableunited.co.uk, IIRC) to check for updates, rather than the Titan-controlled cohplanner.com. In order to get I16 Mids' Hero Planner, you have to uninstall your version of the program, and download the new version from cohplanner.com.

Future versions will be capable of auto update, since the I16 version also now looks to cohplanner.com for updates.


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Originally Posted by Fleeting Whisper View Post
It was ready yesterday. Note that the previous version of Mids' is pointing at Mids' website (honorableunited.co.uk, IIRC) to check for updates, rather than the Titan-controlled cohplanner.com. In order to get I16 Mids' Hero Planner, you have to uninstall your version of the program, and download the new version from cohplanner.com.

Future versions will be capable of auto update, since the I16 version also now looks to cohplanner.com for updates.
I downloaded it, today, straight from the CoH Planner page w/o uninstalling my previous version... so far; no problems.

When I checked yesterday; it was right after I logged in for the morning... it wasn't at the CoH Planner page.

I didn't think to check the forums for it because the trend was for Mid's to be released a few weeks after the release.

Anyhow, being that there are two working on the Mids project (for the time being); hopefully everything will be more fluid and timely... but the point ultimately was to have the community (ie, people like Midnight, St0ney and Steiner) pool together when an issue does creep up (like with what happened between the i13 and i16 updates).

Kudos to Steiner and Stoney for pooling the talents and resources and actually having this out pretty much on the button.


Apparently, I play "City of Shakespeare"
*Arc #95278-Gathering the Four Winds -3 step arc; challenging - 5 Ratings/3 Stars (still working out the kinks)
*Arc #177826-Lights, Camera, Scream! - 3 step arc, camp horror; try out in 1st person POV - 35 Ratings/4 Stars

 

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Originally Posted by Fleeting Whisper View Post
Steiner and St0n3y are different individuals. People were getting frustrated with Steiner for not updating Mids' fast enough for their liking (since he also manages other parts of the Titan Network), St0n3y created an excellent unofficial update, and Steiner brought him on as an official member of the Mids' team.
Thanks for the clarification, Fleeting.


Let me never fall into the vulgar mistake of dreaming that I am persecuted whenever I am contradicted.
~Ralph Waldo Emerson

"I was just the one with the most unsolicited sombrero." - Traegus

 

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Originally Posted by Fleeting Whisper View Post
It was ready yesterday. Note that the previous version of Mids' is pointing at Mids' website (honorableunited.co.uk, IIRC) to check for updates, rather than the Titan-controlled cohplanner.com. In order to get I16 Mids' Hero Planner, you have to uninstall your version of the program, and download the new version from cohplanner.com.

Future versions will be capable of auto update, since the I16 version also now looks to cohplanner.com for updates.
I didn't uninstall the old version before installing the latest build and it works fine for me.


 

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Originally Posted by MunkiLord View Post
I didn't uninstall the old version before installing the latest build and it works fine for me.
Probably not a requirement to uninstall the old version, but as with most programs, if you're downloading and installing a new version, uninstalling the old version is probably a good idea, anyway.

You won't lose your builds, so no worries there.

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Originally Posted by Kitsune Knight View Post
I wouldn't mind if the database format they used was documented... or at least I was told where that documentation was
As far as I know, aside from the data files which are just plain text, the "database" is just an arbitrarily binary packed file with all the necessary information. I could be wrong on the specifics of that, but attempting to document the Mids' database format would likely be an exercise in traipsing through a set of source code files to reverse engineer the documentation.

I am willing to tell you, however, that the cross-platform Mids' I'm in the process of building is using Apache Derby to store program data in a fully relational SQL database. The database editor I'm implementing will be different from the one that exists in Mids' currently.

Currently, in Mids', the database editor directly modifies the stored data used to display things in the program. In the version I'm developing, the database editor won't touch the data at all. Instead, it will develop a second schema representing the changes you've made. Your changes will override the values in the main schema (thanks to the wonders of Outer Join), but this format means that at any time you can undo your changes to the database (when your changes are deleted, the 'official' values reassert themselves), and any updates to the database won't override your changes (they're still listed as changes in your schema, and will still override the new, updated values).

Please recall, however: the Cross-platform Mids' Hero Designer is being built from the ground up. There is no projected release date for the program, and Mids' will be .Net only for some time yet. Apologies, Mac and Linux players!


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Originally Posted by Fleeting Whisper View Post
Probably not a requirement to uninstall the old version, but as with most programs, if you're downloading and installing a new version, uninstalling the old version is probably a good idea, anyway.
I agree. I was so excited that I forgot until I had already started.