Do you use brawl to rack up fury?
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Actually the fact you were WP doesn't help you. The WP Taunt Aura is slower at ticking than the others and so is worse for holding aggro. |
Originally Posted by Steel_Shaman
So I was running my new Brute with some friends tonight.
Our group consisted of:
I used every trick I could to get Fury going, chaining my attacks, Brawl on auto, etc. But the only Fury generation I was getting was from my attacks. My friend even taunted mobs off me a few times when my health was at or nearly full. Since my Fury was staying fairly low, this of course led to End issues as well since my damage wasn't as high as it should have been. I gritted my teeth and didn't say anything, resolving that I would never under any circumstances run another Brute alongside my buddy again. I just wanted to get this off my chest because, well, it really ticked me off. So to all you Taunt spamming Brutes out there, please remember that when you're grouped with other Brutes, they need a little Fury too. And not every Brute takes Taunt by level 16.  |
Ironically the only one of my Brutes that has Taunt is my Dark/WP, simply because he lacks the aura & the AOEs to generate enough hate on teams. I specifically took Taunt because I was lagging behind other Brutes in terms of generating & holding aggro and it was really hurting my Fury. You should have Spin though which should help you earn the Hate.
I suppose one other issue is that the other Brute wouldn't have a clue what your Fury actually is, and since you gritted your teeth, said nothing and decided never to play a Brute with him again he probably doesn't even know it was causing issues for you. Why didn't you just ask him to slow down on the Taunting a tad?
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Yep. Had it on auto all night.|
Originally Posted by New Dawn
Do you use brawl to rack up fury?
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As to your point Carnifax, I guess I just didn't say anything because this particular friend of mine is pretty stubborn. I know him well enough by now to know saying something wouldn't have done any good.
So rather than start an argument, I just kept my mouth shut and blew off some steam here on the forums.
I just found his obsession with "tanking" every spawn kind of annoying, since we had absolutely zero issues prior to him starting that up. There really was no need for him to do it at all. Again, just blowing off steam.
This isn't really unique to taunt spammers. I have this happen on SFs with my DM/WP brute as well. /WP just doesn't hold aggro all that well since it has a very weak taunt aura. It's best to just work around the issue. When there are 2-3 mobs left, just jump ahead to the next spawn, take the alpha, and whittle them down. Once the team shows up and you get that spawn down to 2 or 3 mobs just wash, rinse, and repeat. The alpha along with brawl on auto is normally enough to keep you up above 70% or so.
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Sorry to be nitpicky, but the speed that RttC ticks isn't the problem - it's autohit and ticks every 1s. (The only aura that ticks faster is Ice/CE, at 0.5s.) The reason RttC sucks for holding aggro is actually the duration. The standard for taunt auras is 13.5s, with some sets lasting longer (Inv and Shield/AAO are both ~16.875s). By comparison RttC's taunt lasts 1.25s. That is not a typo - it is literally less 9% the strength of the others from raw taunt duration. When fighting up level mobs it can (and will) expire before it ticks again.
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Originally Posted by Carnifax
Actually the fact you were WP doesn't help you. The WP Taunt Aura is slower at ticking than the others and so is worse for holding aggro.
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Ah I see. That makes sense! And never apologise for being nitpicky, me learned something new.
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Originally Posted by Sarrate
Sorry to be nitpicky, but the speed that RttC ticks isn't the problem - it's autohit and ticks every 1s. (The only aura that ticks faster is Ice/CE, at 0.5s.) The reason RttC sucks for holding aggro is actually the duration. The standard for taunt auras is 13.5s, with some sets lasting longer (Inv and Shield/AAO are both ~16.875s). By comparison RttC's taunt lasts 1.25s. That is not a typo - it is literally less 9% the strength of the others from raw taunt duration. When fighting up level mobs it can (and will) expire before it ticks again.
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Oh i feel your pain i was on my lvl 50 ss/wp brute and had a db/sr brute always using taunt it pissed me off because I could not heal because all the guys were attacking him, I never take taunt i think its kind of a waist of a power for brutes.
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You could of just jumped into the spawn he was taunting to heal |
Originally Posted by tuter_king
Oh i feel your pain i was on my lvl 50 ss/wp brute and had a db/sr brute always using taunt it pissed me off because I could not heal because all the guys were attacking him, I never take taunt i think its kind of a waist of a power for brutes.
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Clearly if other Brutes are using it to so effectively enhance their fury, to the point that you aren't getting what you want, it isn't a waste of a power for -those- Brutes.
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I just went to a different mob hehe, my team didnt like it but i didnt die |
Originally Posted by BrandX
You could of just jumped into the spawn he was taunting to heal
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So I was running my new Brute with some friends tonight.
Our group consisted of:
- Claws/Inv brute
- Claws/WP brute (me)
- Archery/TA corr
- Rad/Dark corr
Everything was going extremely well. Then the claws/inv picked up Taunt at 16. Suddenly my brute simply could not build Fury to save his life. Why? Because virtually none of the mobs were even looking at me, as my friend was spamming Taunt literally almost every time it was up.I used every trick I could to get Fury going, chaining my attacks, Brawl on auto, etc. But the only Fury generation I was getting was from my attacks. My friend even taunted mobs off me a few times when my health was at or nearly full. Since my Fury was staying fairly low, this of course led to End issues as well since my damage wasn't as high as it should have been.
I gritted my teeth and didn't say anything, resolving that I would never under any circumstances run another Brute alongside my buddy again.
I just wanted to get this off my chest because, well, it really ticked me off. So to all you Taunt spamming Brutes out there, please remember that when you're grouped with other Brutes, they need a little Fury too. And not every Brute takes Taunt by level 16.