Respec/freespec order


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I have one character with three respecs available. One was a freespec from I15's launch and two were earned afterwards. If I type /respec and do one, which one gets used first? I hope the freespec gets used first, so that I can acquire another freespec when I16 comes out without having to use the two earned respecs first. I already understand from this forum that you can only have one freespec per character. Does anyone know the order these are used up? Thanks in advance.


 

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/respec *ONLY* works on freespecs (freebies given by the devs) and respec recipes (invention system). All others must go through the respec contact.


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/respec *ONLY* works on freespecs (freebies given by the devs) and respec recipes (invention system). All others must go through the respec contact.
Thank you. As you can tell, I've never done a respec yet and I wasn't aware of the difference in the mechanics. The message when I log in reads "You have 3 unclaimed respecs available. Type /respec in the chat window to begin respecing your character." and I hadn't realized that the mechanics for earned respecs is done differently, via contacts.

Thanks again for your reply, which prompted me to head over to Paragon wiki to carefully review the usual (non-freespec) process which I was previously unaware of.


 

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/respec *ONLY* works on freespecs (freebies given by the devs) and respec recipes (invention system). All others must go through the respec contact.
You are including the Vet reward respecs in there with the freebies, right?


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Unless they changed it I had to see the contact to use my vet respecs. /respec didn't work the last time I did it.


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Unless they changed it I had to see the contact to use my vet respecs. /respec didn't work the last time I did it.
Right. IIRC, when the Veteran Respecs first came out, it told you to type /respec to use them, but it never worked.

Currently, it correctly tells you to see the contact when you claim the Veteran Respec.

However.. if you claim a Vet Reward, but don't use it. It still tells you that you can type /respec to begin respecing your character the next time you log in. Doing so simply tells you to see the contact instead.


 

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You are including the Vet reward respecs in there with the freebies, right?
I had to see the wizard...er...rep to cash those in.

Unless they have changed things, you only have one freespec available at a time, ever. It's a flag, on or off, not a counter. Earned respecs and vet respecs bump a counter, which is decremented when you see the contact to burn one. I am not sure about respec recipes - I have vet respecs galore so the two times I got that recipe I sold them for the big bucks.

But I would be surprised if the developers designed a respec prize which could overlay the freespec flag, costing you one freespec to get another.


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Right. IIRC, when the Veteran Respecs first came out, it told you to type /respec to use them, but it never worked.

Currently, it correctly tells you to see the contact when you claim the Veteran Respec.

However.. if you claim a Vet Reward, but don't use it. It still tells you that you can type /respec to begin respecing your character the next time you log in. Doing so simply tells you to see the contact instead.
That's what I recall as well.


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Thank you. As you can tell, I've never done a respec yet and I wasn't aware of the difference in the mechanics. The message when I log in reads "You have 3 unclaimed respecs available. Type /respec in the chat window to begin respecing your character." and I hadn't realized that the mechanics for earned respecs is done differently, via contacts.

Thanks again for your reply, which prompted me to head over to Paragon wiki to carefully review the usual (non-freespec) process which I was previously unaware of.

If you haven't done it yet, I'd advise doing the first one slowly and tracking everything on paper or in a hero planner, like Mids. Make sure you check everything before you accept and start slotting. It's very easy to miss something or forget to take a power/power pool you really wanted or to get lost and forget what level you're on, taking a power way earlier/later than you intended. After you do a few, it's easier because you remember the pitfalls, like having to accept power pools twice before they "take."


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After you do a few, it's easier because you remember the pitfalls, like having to accept power pools twice before they "take."
And what MissInformed means by that is that Primary and Secondary powers only need to be clicked on once and then you press next to move on... but when you pick a power from a power pool, selecting it only adds it to your main list of powers and then you still have to hit next AGAIN to actually accept it. It's a common mistake for people to see it on their list and then select another power or pick another power pool and not realize that the previous choice was replaced by the new one because you didn't accept it first.


 

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And what MissInformed means by that is that Primary and Secondary powers only need to be clicked on once and then you press next to move on... but when you pick a power from a power pool, selecting it only adds it to your main list of powers and then you still have to hit next AGAIN to actually accept it. It's a common mistake for people to see it on their list and then select another power or pick another power pool and not realize that the previous choice was replaced by the new one because you didn't accept it first.
Thanks to both of you for your tips and the traps to watch out for. I have already worked out the respec on Mids so I know what the final desired build is and the sequence of powers to choose in reaching it (something I know is important in case you do flashback missions back to a lower level). For this first respec, it will be a minor one, tweaking a build I'm already fairly satisfied with but want to switch one power and arrange the slots slightly differently.

Another thing I'm not totally clear on. I have a large number of IO sets I will be keeping as they exist in the final build, but there will be one set that I will let go of in favor of trading to another power with a different set which I've planned for and will slot later (with the planned IO's being in base inventory). I understand that you can slot the existing IO's back into the sets, but you can also put leftover IO's (from any powers you've dropped) into your enhancement tray. This would mean a maximum of 10 IO's that you can move out of the existing build and not include in the final build, correct? And If you exceed 10, you'll have to delete the excess, correct? I'll want to sell these IO's because they're worth a fair amount.

Meanwhile, I'll see if I can't find a good guide for this process which will help. Thanks, again.

(Edited to add: One last question: Is there a way to see how the existing build was built, in order of the powers and slots chosen? This is surely kept somewhere, as this information is used to determine what powers you have when you do a mission at a lower level. Is this information available, or will I have to go from memory on how I did the original build? I liked the original sequence for the most part and would like to preserve it, including the order of the IO's slotted into the powers.)


 

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Thanks to both of you for your tips and the traps to watch out for. I have already worked out the respec on Mids so I know what the final desired build is and the sequence of powers to choose in reaching it (something I know is important in case you do flashback missions back to a lower level). For this first respec, it will be a minor one, tweaking a build I'm already fairly satisfied with but want to switch one power and arrange the slots slightly differently.

Another thing I'm not totally clear on. I have a large number of IO sets I will be keeping as they exist in the final build, but there will be one set that I will let go of in favor of trading to another power with a different set which I've planned for and will slot later (with the planned IO's being in base inventory). I understand that you can slot the existing IO's back into the sets, but you can also put leftover IO's (from any powers you've dropped) into your enhancement tray. This would mean a maximum of 10 IO's that you can move out of the existing build and not include in the final build, correct? And If you exceed 10, you'll have to delete the excess, correct? I'll want to sell these IO's because they're worth a fair amount.

Meanwhile, I'll see if I can't find a good guide for this process which will help. Thanks, again.
If you have more than 10 valuable IOs that you are not going to use and would like to sell on the market. You'd have to save 10 of them and slot the rest somewhere. Then sell the 10 in your tray (or save them in your base) and Re-respec to pull out 10 more.. etc

Keep in mind that unused enhancements are not really just deleted, but "sold". You'd still get a little bit of money and it tells you the value before you let the game take them. Make your best judgement.


 

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(Edited to add: One last question: Is there a way to see how the existing build was built, in order of the powers chosen? This is surely kept somewhere, as this information is used to determine what powers you have when you do a mission at a lower level. Is this information available, or will I have to go from memory on how I did the original build?)
Unfortunately not. The closest you can get is knowing what ORDER your powers from either your primaries or secondaries were chosen in, as that's the order they display on the enhancement screen.


 

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I appreciate all the comments so far.

As far as guides go, the Guide to Guides really only has one guide in Section X that actually goes over the mechanics of the respec process (by R_M dating back to I8: http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showt...370#post578370).

Since I already have a freespec and two respecs for the (45th level) character I intend to respec first, I'll go ahead and get my feet wet and give the freespec a go. If all goes to worst and I discover that I've messed it up after I've saved it, I have two more respecs to play with. I've been hoarding them just in case.


 

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I appreciate all the comments so far.

As far as guides go, the Guide to Guides really only has one guide in Section X that actually goes over the mechanics of the respec process (by R_M dating back to I8: http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showt...370#post578370).

Since I already have a freespec and two respecs for the (45th level) character I intend to respec first, I'll go ahead and get my feet wet and give the freespec a go. If all goes to worst and I discover that I've messed it up after I've saved it, I have two more respecs to play with. I've been hoarding them just in case.

You can always copy your character to the test server before running the respec, then try it out on test to make sure it works right. This will also give you the option to run a coulpe of test mission with the new build. The character copy tool is very easy to access as its now in the forum list right after the training room forums.


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I appreciate all the comments so far.

As far as guides go, the Guide to Guides really only has one guide in Section X that actually goes over the mechanics of the respec process (by R_M dating back to I8: http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showt...370#post578370).

Since I already have a freespec and two respecs for the (45th level) character I intend to respec first, I'll go ahead and get my feet wet and give the freespec a go. If all goes to worst and I discover that I've messed it up after I've saved it, I have two more respecs to play with. I've been hoarding them just in case.

Another freespec has just been announced. Even though a long time ago, they told us they'd give us a one week warning for new freespecs, the last time it was only two-three days warning. I'm guessing one is coming Tuesday with the release of I16 (my best guess).

So, if you have freespecs, burn them NOW!


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