Stupid Healers!
Bad. Yes. And yes, Sonic's worse 'cause it doesn't even get PFF.
Seriously, if you want to go with FF, you do avoid having to fire off heals all the time, but really your main powers don't give you much to do. You reapply bubbles every few minutes. If you want to use your knockback (and you probably should) you will be more active, but teams will probably complain about it. If you want to avoid both hassles, you will probably want to avoid FF.
If you're fine with it, then FF/Sonic is probably your best choice. The Proton Volley from Rad Blast will give you that "pew pew" feel that you're looking for (it fires four times ) but I've played FF/Rad, and I wouldn't recommend it. You have no way to raise your damage outside of your Secondary, Pool, or Epics, so you're not really going to be able to fill a defense/damage role unless you have a Secondary that REALLY does damage.
And honestly, Sonic isn't that bad an alternate choice. While you can't "turtle up" behind your shields, you do have Sonic Dispersion, which puts a bubble around you, and you have a few more options for offense. I've found Sonic/Rad isn't much better, as you have no options for knockback (early on) but Sonic/Energy could be okay. Although Sonic/Sonic is the obvious choice.
An option I don't really have an experience with, one way or another, is Cold Domination. There's no heal there, though, outside of Frostwork, which is an HP boost. It might be an alternative. You'll get the shields, but a lot more options as well.
So Forcefield....
How bad is it? Am I likely to die of boredom by level 5? |
My experiences
Leveling without Stamina and with Aid Other. Not so much fun.
Respec'ing into Stamina, Fighting, and softcapped (range) def in the 30s: PEW PEW PEW!
So Forcefield....
How bad is it? Am I likely to die of boredom by level 5? The reason Im asking is I want to play as the Starship Uber Biscuit and do the whole shields up, pew pew pew thing. I was thinking of Sonic/ too but then I wouldn't have access to PFF |
Just don't expect to solo much until later level. Between the low damage and the low personal defenses you'll be leveling at a snail's pace (and likely visiting the Hospital regularly unless you're quick on the PFF - which is a godsend).
Sonic is mmore fun to me. With moves like Liquefy and disruption field. Yur not only a buffer but a powerful Debuffer. i like to think of it as a mix between FF and Kin.
FF is only boring solo, as your primary is next to worthless. Sonic though has a few powers that can be classified as "useful" when soloing. PFF is probably what makes people think FF is so boring: They buff their team then turn on PFF and wait 4 minutes, then buff agian.
eh, just give it a shot. your either a FF fan or not. I'm not personally.
Whining about everything since 2006.
Ammo switching for Dual Pistols was my idea:
http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=135484
Fanx for the input.
I made a FF/Rad, currently at the dizzy heights of level 4. So far I've Self Destructed twice, joined an SG from a blind invite and humped Miss Liberty.
So far so good
http://www.chriffer.com/node/42
The first video is boring but impressive.
The second video is fun and exciting.
The third video is not relevant.
Well, if you wish to join the ranks of the few, the proud, the bubblers, I suggest the following link:
http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=123118
Beyond that, do you plan to solo? (Now that you have been warned against it? ) Bubblers actually don't have a lack of powers that help them solo, it's just that such powers are near useless on a team, provided they don't get you kicked. I'm talking about you, Detention Field. Fortunately, with dual builds you can have one build for soloing (no Deflection and Insulation Shield) and one for teaming.
So Forcefield....
How bad is it? Am I likely to die of boredom by level 5? The reason Im asking is I want to play as the Starship Uber Biscuit and do the whole shields up, pew pew pew thing. I was thinking of Sonic/ too but then I wouldn't have access to PFF |
You might consider playing FF under a controller instead. Slightly less buffage, but with the right controller primary, you should solo fine-particularly later game. Bubble pets for teh win.
Here boy! Get the shiny ball! <Throws sonic cage and watches scrappers chase it.>
Beyond that, do you plan to solo? (Now that you have been warned against it? )
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Controllers can't be starships!!! No PEW PEW!
QFT
http://www.chriffer.com/node/42
The first video is boring but impressive. The second video is fun and exciting. The third video is not relevant. |
After watching the first video it has just occurred to me that irradiate and force bubble aren't going to be a very good combo and then there's Cosmic burst that has exactly faff all range as well.
Maybe I'll make a Sonic/Rad instead or wait for I16 and make a Rad/energy/PFF epic blaster (skipping the melee attacks of course because Starship's don't have arms).
Or maybe I could do both and start my own fleet of Starships, then you'll see, you'll all see!
I wont be soloing much, its more of a Post-pub character for messing around on in some Pugs
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After watching the first video it has just occurred to me that irradiate and force bubble aren't going to be a very good combo and then there's Cosmic burst that has exactly faff all range as well.
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On the other hand, if you're not soloing that often, then your attacks may not be that important. You're not the major damage dealer, and if you can't use Electron Haze or Irradiate, that's not that big a deal. On the other hand, Cosmic Burst can be useful to "punch" a foe to stun him for a few seconds while an ally deals with him, so for that reason you might want to turn Force Bubble off and on, or even use it only when needed.
Honestly, the primary use for Force Bubble is to force foes into corners in indoor maps. For that purpose you don't leave it up all the time, and if you leave it up on an outdoor map, not only are you cutting off your close range and cone attacks, you're probably cutting off your ALLIES, as well. While there are situations where it can be useful to force your foes out to sniper range and pick them off from that distance, those are just that, situational.
I find enough use for both Repulsion Field and Force Bubble that I have them both, but I use Repulsion Field far more often. If you feel like you can skip Force Bubble, you probably can. And remember, your starship's Deflector Shield is Dispersion Bubble, not Force Bubble. (Force Bubble is more like putting Tractor Beam in reverse)
Temp powers will help to keep things moving when you're forced to solo. Check your friendly neighborhood Wentworth's for a revolver, baseball bat, or sledgehammer. I'll make the trek to Aim, SOs, and Cosmic Burst more bearable.
You might want to get a head start on your dual build for soloing, actually. Being able to have X-Ray Beam right away at 2, Irradiate right away at 4, and Electron Haze right away at 10 is nice. It leaves you only 3 choices for primaries until at least level 16, but, luckily, PFF, Force Bolt (or Detention Field), and Dispersion Bubble are the only 3 primaries you really need for soloing until then. How convenient.
Hai guyz!
Does this mean it's officially a FF thread?
Fanx for the input.
I made a FF/Rad, currently at the dizzy heights of level 4. So far I've Self Destructed twice, joined an SG from a blind invite and humped Miss Liberty. So far so good |
FF has some great character concept potential, I think. Play it right and you can be something of a tankmage.
Heh... Yeah, by the time he gets his epic armor, he'll have truly Tankerish numbers, with over 71% resistance to smashing and lethal, and over 31% Defense to everything.
Of course, he'll still do abysmal damage...
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[color:#1E90FF]Technaught:[/color][color:#1E90FF] Level 50 Technology Defender[/color]
[color:#1E90FF]Primary Power Set: [/color][color:#1E90FF]Force Field[/color]
[color:#1E90FF]Secondary Power Set: [/color][color:#1E90FF]Energy Blast[/color]
[color:#1E90FF]Power Pool: [/color][color:#1E90FF]Flight[/color]
[color:#1E90FF]Power Pool: [/color][color:#1E90FF]Fitness[/color]
[color:#1E90FF]Power Pool: [/color][color:#1E90FF]Fighting[/color]
[color:#1E90FF]Power Pool: [/color][color:#1E90FF]Leadership[/color]
[color:#1E90FF]Ancillary Pool: [/color][color:#1E90FF]Power Mastery[/color]
[color:#1E90FF]Hero Profile:[/color]
[color:#32CD32]Level 1:[/color] [color:#1E90FF]Personal Force Field[/color] [color:#1E90FF]--[/color] [color:#FFC000]DefBuff[/color][color:#FFC000]-I[/color](A)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFC000]DefBuff[/color][color:#FFC000]-I[/color](3)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFC000]DefBuff[/color][color:#FFC000]-I[/color](3)
[color:#32CD32]Level 1:[/color] [color:#1E90FF]Power Bolt[/color] [color:#1E90FF]--[/color] [color:#FFC000]Acc[/color][color:#FFC000]-I[/color](A)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFC000]Acc[/color][color:#FFC000]-I[/color](5)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFC000]Dmg[/color][color:#FFC000]-I[/color](5)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFC000]Dmg[/color][color:#FFC000]-I[/color](7)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFC000]Dmg[/color][color:#FFC000]-I[/color](7)
[color:#32CD32]Level 2:[/color] [color:#1E90FF]Power Blast[/color] [color:#1E90FF]--[/color] [color:#FFC000]EndRdx[/color][color:#FFC000]-I[/color](A)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFC000]Acc[/color][color:#FFC000]-I[/color](9)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFC000]Dmg[/color][color:#FFC000]-I[/color](46)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFC000]Dmg[/color][color:#FFC000]-I[/color](50)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFC000]Dmg[/color][color:#FFC000]-I[/color](50)
[color:#32CD32]Level 4:[/color] [color:#1E90FF]Energy Torrent[/color] [color:#1E90FF]--[/color] [color:#FFC000]Acc[/color][color:#FFC000]-I[/color](A)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFC000]Acc[/color][color:#FFC000]-I[/color](9)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFC000]Dmg[/color][color:#FFC000]-I[/color](11)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFC000]Dmg[/color][color:#FFC000]-I[/color](11)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFC000]Dmg[/color][color:#FFC000]-I[/color](13)
[color:#32CD32]Level 6:[/color] [color:#1E90FF]Hover[/color] [color:#1E90FF]--[/color] [color:#FFC000]Flight[/color][color:#FFC000]-I[/color](A)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFC000]Flight[/color][color:#FFC000]-I[/color](13)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFC000]Flight[/color][color:#FFC000]-I[/color](15)
[color:#32CD32]Level 8:[/color] [color:#1E90FF]Air Superiority[/color] [color:#1E90FF]--[/color] [color:#FFC000]Acc[/color][color:#FFC000]-I[/color](A)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFC000]Acc[/color][color:#FFC000]-I[/color](15)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFC000]Dmg[/color][color:#FFC000]-I[/color](17)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFC000]Dmg[/color][color:#FFC000]-I[/color](17)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFC000]Dmg[/color][color:#FFC000]-I[/color](19)
[color:#32CD32]Level 10:[/color] [color:#1E90FF]Hurdle[/color] [color:#1E90FF]--[/color] [color:#FFC000]Jump[/color][color:#FFC000]-I[/color](A)
[color:#32CD32]Level 12:[/color] [color:#1E90FF]Dispersion Bubble[/color] [color:#1E90FF]--[/color] [color:#FFC000]EndRdx[/color][color:#FFC000]-I[/color](A)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFC000]DefBuff[/color][color:#FFC000]-I[/color](19)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFC000]DefBuff[/color][color:#FFC000]-I[/color](21)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFC000]DefBuff[/color][color:#FFC000]-I[/color](21)
[color:#32CD32]Level 14:[/color] [color:#1E90FF]Fly[/color] [color:#1E90FF]--[/color] [color:#FFC000]Flight[/color][color:#FFC000]-I[/color](A)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFC000]Flight[/color][color:#FFC000]-I[/color](23)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFC000]Flight[/color][color:#FFC000]-I[/color](23)
[color:#32CD32]Level 16:[/color] [color:#1E90FF]Boxing[/color] [color:#1E90FF]--[/color] [color:#FFC000]Acc[/color][color:#FFC000]-I[/color](A)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFC000]Acc[/color][color:#FFC000]-I[/color](25)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFC000]Dmg[/color][color:#FFC000]-I[/color](25)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFC000]Dmg[/color][color:#FFC000]-I[/color](27)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFC000]Dmg[/color][color:#FFC000]-I[/color](27)
[color:#32CD32]Level 18:[/color] [color:#1E90FF]Health[/color] [color:#1E90FF]--[/color] [color:#FFC000]Heal[/color][color:#FFC000]-I[/color](A)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFC000]Heal[/color][color:#FFC000]-I[/color](29)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFC000]Heal[/color][color:#FFC000]-I[/color](29)
[color:#32CD32]Level 20:[/color] [color:#1E90FF]Stamina[/color] [color:#1E90FF]--[/color] [color:#FFC000]EndMod[/color][color:#FFC000]-I[/color](A)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFC000]EndMod[/color][color:#FFC000]-I[/color](31)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFC000]EndMod[/color][color:#FFC000]-I[/color](31)
[color:#32CD32]Level 22:[/color] [color:#1E90FF]Tough[/color] [color:#1E90FF]--[/color] [color:#FFC000]EndRdx[/color][color:#FFC000]-I[/color](A)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFC000]ResDam[/color][color:#FFC000]-I[/color](31)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFC000]ResDam[/color][color:#FFC000]-I[/color](33)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFC000]ResDam[/color][color:#FFC000]-I[/color](33)
[color:#32CD32]Level 24:[/color] [color:#1E90FF]Weave[/color] [color:#1E90FF]--[/color] [color:#FFC000]EndRdx[/color][color:#FFC000]-I[/color](A)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFC000]DefBuff[/color][color:#FFC000]-I[/color](33)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFC000]DefBuff[/color][color:#FFC000]-I[/color](34)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFC000]DefBuff[/color][color:#FFC000]-I[/color](34)
[color:#32CD32]Level 26:[/color] [color:#1E90FF]Power Burst[/color] [color:#1E90FF]--[/color] [color:#FFC000]Acc[/color][color:#FFC000]-I[/color](A)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFC000]Acc[/color][color:#FFC000]-I[/color](34)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFC000]Dmg[/color][color:#FFC000]-I[/color](36)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFC000]Dmg[/color][color:#FFC000]-I[/color](36)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFC000]Dmg[/color][color:#FFC000]-I[/color](36)
[color:#32CD32]Level 28:[/color] [color:#1E90FF]Repulsion Bomb[/color] [color:#1E90FF]--[/color] [color:#FFC000]EndRdx[/color][color:#FFC000]-I[/color](A)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFC000]Acc[/color][color:#FFC000]-I[/color](37)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFC000]Dmg[/color][color:#FFC000]-I[/color](37)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFC000]Dmg[/color][color:#FFC000]-I[/color](37)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFC000]Dmg[/color][color:#FFC000]-I[/color](39)
[color:#32CD32]Level 30:[/color] [color:#1E90FF]Maneuvers[/color] [color:#1E90FF]--[/color] [color:#FFC000]EndRdx[/color][color:#FFC000]-I[/color](A)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFC000]DefBuff[/color][color:#FFC000]-I[/color](39)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFC000]DefBuff[/color][color:#FFC000]-I[/color](39)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFC000]DefBuff[/color][color:#FFC000]-I[/color](40)
[color:#32CD32]Level 32:[/color] [color:#1E90FF]Assault[/color] [color:#1E90FF]--[/color] [color:#FFC000]EndRdx[/color][color:#FFC000]-I[/color](A)
[color:#32CD32]Level 35:[/color] [color:#1E90FF]Explosive Blast[/color] [color:#1E90FF]--[/color] [color:#FFC000]Acc[/color][color:#FFC000]-I[/color](A)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFC000]Acc[/color][color:#FFC000]-I[/color](40)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFC000]Dmg[/color][color:#FFC000]-I[/color](40)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFC000]Dmg[/color][color:#FFC000]-I[/color](42)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFC000]Dmg[/color][color:#FFC000]-I[/color](42)
[color:#32CD32]Level 38:[/color] [color:#1E90FF]Nova[/color] [color:#1E90FF]--[/color] [color:#FFC000]Acc[/color][color:#FFC000]-I[/color](A)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFC000]Acc[/color][color:#FFC000]-I[/color](42)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFC000]Dmg[/color][color:#FFC000]-I[/color](43)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFC000]Dmg[/color][color:#FFC000]-I[/color](43)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFC000]Dmg[/color][color:#FFC000]-I[/color](43)
[color:#32CD32]Level 41:[/color] [color:#1E90FF]Conserve Power[/color] [color:#1E90FF]--[/color] [color:#FFC000]RechRdx[/color][color:#FFC000]-I[/color](A)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFC000]RechRdx[/color][color:#FFC000]-I[/color](45)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFC000]RechRdx[/color][color:#FFC000]-I[/color](45)
[color:#32CD32]Level 44:[/color] [color:#1E90FF]Temp Invulnerability[/color] [color:#1E90FF]--[/color] [color:#FFC000]EndRdx[/color][color:#FFC000]-I[/color](A)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFC000]ResDam[/color][color:#FFC000]-I[/color](45)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFC000]ResDam[/color][color:#FFC000]-I[/color](46)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFC000]ResDam[/color][color:#FFC000]-I[/color](46)
[color:#32CD32]Level 47:[/color] [color:#1E90FF]Total Focus[/color] [color:#1E90FF]--[/color] [color:#FFC000]Acc[/color][color:#FFC000]-I[/color](A)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFC000]Acc[/color][color:#FFC000]-I[/color](48)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFC000]Dmg[/color][color:#FFC000]-I[/color](48)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFC000]Dmg[/color][color:#FFC000]-I[/color](48)[color:#FFA500], [/color][color:#FFC000]Dmg[/color][color:#FFC000]-I[/color](50)
[color:#32CD32]Level 49:[/color] [color:#1E90FF]Force Bubble[/color] [color:#1E90FF]--[/color] [color:#FFC000]EndRdx[/color][color:#FFC000]-I[/color](A)
[color:#1E90FF]------------[/color]
[color:#32CD32]Level 1:[/color] [color:#1E90FF]Brawl[/color] [color:#1E90FF]--[/color] [color:#FFC000]Acc[/color][color:#FFC000]-I[/color](A)
[color:#32CD32]Level 1:[/color] [color:#1E90FF]Sprint[/color] [color:#1E90FF]--[/color] [color:#FFC000]Jump[/color][color:#FFC000]-I[/color](A)
[color:#32CD32]Level 2:[/color] [color:#1E90FF]Rest[/color] [color:#1E90FF]--[/color] [color:#FFC000]RechRdx[/color][color:#FFC000]-I[/color](A)
[color:#32CD32]Level 1:[/color] [color:#1E90FF]Vigilance[/color]
(EDIT: Hm, not sure what's up with this...)
I have a 45 FF/Rad and a 50 Sonic/Sonic.
I love my Sonic/Sonic. He's god-like on teams; halving incoming damage and doubling outgoing damage. What more could any team want?
I will not rest until we have in-game throwable pies!
Since I forgot to mention this first time around, though, I do very much recommend damage bonus Set IOs if you wish to deal any damage. The OP said he wasn't soloing, so it's not as important, but it will make you do more damage overall, and every little bit helps. The main thing is to find Sets that are cheap and easy to build. I went with Red Fortune, which takes four to get the damage bonus, and Kinetic Crash, which takes only two. I notice a lot of folks talk about Force Feedback, too, but since it's more popular it's more expensive. Since you only need two for the Kinetic Crash, it's easier to slot all your knockback powers with it early on, when you don't have the slots to spare. Plus, you can use the Proc as one of those two, as mentioned above.
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HelinCarnate:OMG it is so terrible. I have the option to take 3 more powers but no additional slots. Boo F'ing hoo.
So Forcefield....
How bad is it? Am I likely to die of boredom by level 5?
The reason Im asking is I want to play as the Starship Uber Biscuit and do the whole shields up, pew pew pew thing.
I was thinking of Sonic/ too but then I wouldn't have access to PFF