Feedback on Your Arcs?


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As of today I've had a total of over 125 plays on my two arcs (when combining the current arc numbers with the ones that they had before being re-published). If I remove feedback comments made by formal reviewers (who later went on to post reviews in this forum), I've had probably less than a dozen actual feedback tells. I get the star rating, but nothing but silence in the comments.

Are all of you seeing the same trend - maybe one in ten people actually leaving comments - or am I just the luck one? It doesn't seem too difficult to leave a brief comment of some kind, at least you'd think.


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I wish people would even play my arc. And post feedback in my thread for it. I even have what I'd call my "ideal" version up on Test (using the new Custom NPC power selection options). I just want to know how to make it perfect. I mean, I think it's pretty good, but I'm not qualified to call it perfect (since I made the arc). I won't rest until it's the most awesome MA arc ever created.


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I'll add yours to my list, but with the wife, baby, job, dog, cat, yard, house, and other assorted lifey kind of things, I'm not sure how soon I'll get to it.

That said, it's almost as hard to get people to run your arc as it is to get traffic to a web site. You really have to actively promote it. Getting it reviewed by the folks in this forum is a great step, but unfortunately many of them seem to be on vacation - or taking well-deserved breaks. I'd suggest checking out the COH Rotten Tomatoes thread for the most recent list of reviewers. I'd also suggest posting at outside websites such as COHmissionreview.com.

As far as figuring out how to get the Devs to see it... good luck on that one. It seems to be a very well guarded secret. If you figure it out, write a book. You'll make a mint.


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I asked the same question in another thread recently; I seem to get comments from 10-15% of the people who play my arcs. Some people won't comment because they're lazy or don't care, some won't comment because they have nothing to say, some won't comment because of the lack of anonymity (especially in cases of negative feedback). The best way to get feedback is to ask for it, especially here in the forums, and to play other people's arcs and provide them with feedback; sometimes they'll reciprocate.


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I agree with all the reasons cited the previous post.

It is also possible that at times, no comment is sent because of the way the feedback screen is designed.

Although I know there is a button to send the comment, I falsely assumed that if I typed a comment and pressed finish, that the comment would be sent along with my rating. It seems that is not the case.


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Originally Posted by Dalghryn View Post
As far as figuring out how to get the Devs to see it... good luck on that one. It seems to be a very well guarded secret. If you figure it out, write a book. You'll make a mint.
Well, the first thing you have to do is set your arc to Final, not Work In Progress or Looking for Feedback. After that, I think praying to the deity of your choice is your best bet.

My first arc has ~280 ratings so far. I have feedback comments from 65 different people, but about a half dozen of those were reviewers from here on the forum telling me they had run the arc. Personally, about the only time I don't give some feedback is for obvious farms and those I give a roundabout form of feedback by reporting them. Sometimes it is just a "Good story, really enjoyed playing it." other times I have sent 5 tells to the author full of typos, ideas, and things that stuck out for me.


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Well, the first thing you have to do is set your arc to Final, not Work In Progress or Looking for Feedback. After that, I think praying to the deity of your choice is your best bet.
Is this specifically stated somewhere recently, because there are several of the DCs that currently read "Work in Progress?" If so, and they've instituted yet another seemingly arbitrary condition, that's just one more thing they're doing to irritate me. Even if I think it's "Final," I want to encourage feedback on my arcs. I've thought my arcs were "Final," several times already, and through feedback still managed to improve them... immensely. I'll go ahead and do it if that's one of the silly requirements, but I won't have to like it.

Seems pretty par for the course with a lot of the devs' decisions regarding MA lately...


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I ran about 20 or 25 arcs this weekend, just trying to pick stuff at random.

Of those, most of those were blatant farms (all with the same map and attempts to pack as many lieutenants or bosses into a room as possible) and were flagged/reported as such. (Though, this doesn't seem to actually do anything about it.)

I think I ran ONE really good arc that I 5-starred (don't have the number here).

My point is, that unless people are checking these threads to find something cool to run, getting people to run an arc is nigh-impossible. (I think I need to visit those sorts of threads more frequently.)


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Tell me about it.. so far my [3-week-old] arc got 10 plays, 3 of which are folks from my SG who participated in the test run, and 2 more are reviewers; the only 'comments' I got were from the reviewers (many thanks to GlaziusF and airhead, btw!). That leaves a whopping 5 people who found the arc in either of the reviewer threads, cohmissionreview.com, either of the announcement threads (here or in the 'technical' MA forum), the arc's own thread, or just random AE searches. And I don't think I'll break 20 in the next few months, either (last two weeks had 2 non-reviewer plays total).

Edit: omg I just checked it and it has 12 total plays now... that's 2 in one day, crazy!


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I have less than 100 plays on my Matchstick Women arc which I made during open beta, advertise quite often, have gotten it reviewed (and gotten mostly high marks) by almost every reviewer on this thread, advertise on my bios that the arc is based on, ran teams through it for testing, *and* have gotten nearly all positive comments. So there ya go.


 

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Originally Posted by Dalghryn View Post
Is this specifically stated somewhere recently, because there are several of the DCs that currently read "Work in Progress?" If so, and they've instituted yet another seemingly arbitrary condition, that's just one more thing they're doing to irritate me. Even if I think it's "Final," I want to encourage feedback on my arcs. I've thought my arcs were "Final," several times already, and through feedback still managed to improve them... immensely. I'll go ahead and do it if that's one of the silly requirements, but I won't have to like it.

Seems pretty par for the course with a lot of the devs' decisions regarding MA lately...
I saw it from a red name when they put the 3 levels in, but it is not in the patch notes anywhere. So it must have been in an interview before I15 went live. And actually, I can understand it from their POV. Limiting it to something the author considers Final, means they don't have to worry about the 10s of thousands that are still Works In Progress or Looking for Feedback. They can search on Final and find the things that the author thinks are good enough to be a Dev's Choice. The writer may be wrong, but at least he is confident.

And you can still make changes to something marked Final if you want to. It just means you are pretty much satisfied with it and are not going to be making anymore wholesale changes.
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I have less than 100 plays on my Matchstick Women arc which I made during open beta, advertise quite often, have gotten it reviewed (and gotten mostly high marks) by almost every reviewer on this thread, advertise on my bios that the arc is based on, ran teams through it for testing, *and* have gotten nearly all positive comments. So there ya go.
You make me feel much better about the number of plays I have on my first arc. It has pretty much the same history as yours, and I am just about ready to mark it Final. I can't find the remaining typos and noone has pointed them out to me. I am pretty satisfied with the story and gameplay, even if I have had some bad reviews for both. I just happen to disagree with the reviewers in those cases.


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Outside of reviews I cannot get people to even play it. Not sure if they are starting and dropping it or just not even trying it. Sitting at 13 right now with 4 feedback.


 

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Are you a member of the MA Architect global channel? Actually, there are probably more than one by now, searching for them is probably the best way to find specific ones for servers. And don't forget the Architect Chat channel either. Put a little blurb on those every once in a while while you are playing. I usually only do the Global once or twice a night, but I will use the Architect Chat more if I am switching between alts on different servers.


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Originally Posted by Dalghryn View Post
Is this specifically stated somewhere recently, because there are several of the DCs that currently read "Work in Progress?" If so, and they've instituted yet another seemingly arbitrary condition, that's just one more thing they're doing to irritate me. Even if I think it's "Final," I want to encourage feedback on my arcs. I've thought my arcs were "Final," several times already, and through feedback still managed to improve them... immensely. I'll go ahead and do it if that's one of the silly requirements, but I won't have to like it.

Seems pretty par for the course with a lot of the devs' decisions regarding MA lately...
It does actually make sense. "Looking for Feedback" implies that you are still making changes to the arc, in the hopes of improving it. Once an arc gets Devs Choice you can't make any changes, so you'd better be happy with it.


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It does actually make sense. "Looking for Feedback" implies that you are still making changes to the arc, in the hopes of improving it. Once an arc gets Devs Choice you can't make any changes, so you'd better be happy with it.
Sense or not, the fact that they have many Dev Choices that have something other than "Final" is confusing. They need to clarify what, exactly, they expect from an arc for it to qualify as a Dev's Choice instead of making us speculate simply because they want to keep their options open.

Edit: I found where it says that "Final" is the only status that will be accepted for Dev's Choice. As someone else noted, you'll find it if you click on the "?" next to "Story Arc Status" under "Story Parameters." I still think they should explain more fully in the "Rewards" part of the MA tabs in the help section exactly what the minimum requirements are to be eligible for Dev's Choice Award, and maybe even create a stickied thread in this forum rather than assuming everyone will click every question mark in the MA regardless of how obvious the choices for that field seem.


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Glad you found that, I knew I had read it somewhere. As for why there are Dev's Choice marked as Work in Progress, when the settings were put in, all existing arcs were marked that way automatically. But the one's that are already a Dev's Choice can't be edited to change the setting. So they will remain with that setting, unless there is a way for it to be changed from the server end. Considering everything else that has been going on the last few months, fixing that, if it is possible, is probably very low on everyone's list.


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