We need more Going Rogue buzz...
Well, Ultimus, if it helps... I've already begun storyboarding out a GR teaser AND trailer. If I can scrounge the funds to license the music I need, I think I can manage something quite spiffy.
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But now that you're giving a go at it, DR... WOO-HOO!!!! That's the best news yet!
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I think it is kind of weird that the "hands-on" preview that MMORPG.com got with GR didn't mention either of the two powersets, nor anything about switching sides. They even gushed about things that we already have right now like they were 'coming soon'
Very bad article as far as press for a new expansion on a heavily trafficed site.
Just sayin'
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I think it is kind of weird that the "hands-on" preview that MMORPG.com got with GR didn't mention either of the two powersets, nor anything about switching sides. They even gushed about things that we already have right now like they were 'coming soon'
Very bad article as far as press for a new expansion on a heavily trafficed site. Just sayin' |
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See? That's what I get for posting with morning crust in my eyeballs.
Well, Ultimus, if it helps... I've already begun storyboarding out a GR teaser AND trailer. If I can scrounge the funds to license the music I need, I think I can manage something quite spiffy.
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And here I was going to say....
"Well the person who would be best for the job would be Dark Respite/Samuraiko, but she stopped doing these videos and NCSoft doesn't want to hire her." But now that you're giving a go at it, DR... WOO-HOO!!!! That's the best news yet! |

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How much do those sorts of licenses cost anyway? Just out of curiosity...
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Again, if people want to see D_R release more materials, you need to cough up money to help cover the costs.
Not sure if you've looked there D_R but http://www.istock.com was selling royalty-free audio. |
And yes, I'm also familiar with some of the other royalty free music sites - I include them in my price estimates above.
Sammy, it'll be awesome. Period. I finally managed to see all the CoX Vidoes you've made over the years on the youtube page.
Seriously, NCsoft should be paying you freelance for such a damn good job. 'Incarnate' had my spine tingling ^^ Beyond awesome. |
And here I was going to say....
"Well the person who would be best for the job would be Dark Respite/Samuraiko, but she stopped doing these videos and NCSoft doesn't want to hire her." But now that you're giving a go at it, DR... WOO-HOO!!!! That's the best news yet! |

Ok... where do we go and who do we kil...., er that is...I mean who do we see in order to send funds if we were so motivated?
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My videos are not worth killing people over. Not even throwing them down a couple flights of stairs.
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But seriously, I'd love to see you do a trailer for Going Rogue, DR.
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We should also be grousing to the Powers That Be to do their own trailers for GR (and I-16 for that matter). MORE ADS, DAVID! COME ON!
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MA Arcs - 3430: Hell Hath No Fury / 3515: Positron Gets Some / 6600: Dyne of the Times / 351572: For All the Wrong Reasons
378944: Too Clever by Half / 459581: Kill or Cure / 551680: Clerical Errors (NEW!)
We should also be grousing to the Powers That Be to do their own trailers for GR (and I-16 for that matter). MORE ADS, DAVID! COME ON!
Michelle aka Samuraiko/Dark_Respite |

But honestly, I think part of the reason the hype for GR is going down a fair bit is because people are back to focusing on issue 16, which has had updated news on progression and other sorts of things while GR... Well, I don't see any new updates or information on it... So there's not much to talk about, we've speculated just about every possibility for it.
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I'm sticking by my 18 months prediction, but it could be 12 months (we'll see it Spring or Fall 2010). WoW just announced it's expansion -- we won't see that for 18 months (Lich King was 18 months from announcement to release) I don't see CoH doing any differently... |
Sadly, I think you're right. I believe someone previously pointed out that the time between CoV announce and launch was also > 12 months. I don't know if it was a full 18 months, but the point is that it certainly wouldn't be without precedent.
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1) The Going Rogue beta announcement refers to the specific time period of August 15, 2009 to November 15, 2009 and to 60+ month vets in relation to who will be getting into which wave of the Going Rogue closed beta. Why on earth would they establish those parameters for a closed beta that you're predicting might not happen for another full year AFTER those dates and Vet awards have any significance? If your prediction is right wouldn't it make more sense to establish a loyalty time period some time next summer and key off say the 72+ month Vet awards for this?
2) We got our first public announcement of the Going Rogue Expansion all the way back in August 2008. True that "announcement" came in the form of a low-key market survey, but nonetheless the general "strong hint" that an expansion was in the works was publicly declared in August 2008. So even if we go by the debatable metric that it takes "around 18 months" for any MMO expansions to get released then I would point out that the January/February 2010 timeframe would sync up to that perfectly.
I realize it's safe to assume that MMOs always follow some kind of "Standard Plan" when it comes to expansion releases. But don't let that kind of thing blind you to the obvious evidence we have available in this particular situation.
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I still don't understand why people continue to ignore the obvious evidence that the Going Rogue beta is likely going to be starting before the end of -this- year, not late next year.
1) The Going Rogue beta announcement refers to the specific time period of August 15, 2009 to November 15, 2009 and to 60+ month vets in relation to who will be getting into which wave of the Going Rogue closed beta. Why on earth would they establish those parameters for a closed beta that you're predicting might not happen for another full year AFTER those dates and Vet awards have any significance? If your prediction is right wouldn't it make more sense to establish a loyalty time period some time next summer and key off say the 72+ month Vet awards for this? 2) We got our first public announcement of the Going Rogue Expansion all the way back in August 2008. True that "announcement" came in the form of a low-key market survey, but nonetheless the general "strong hint" that an expansion was in the works was publicly declared in August 2008. So even if we go by the debatable metric that it takes "around 18 months" for any MMO expansions to get released then I would point out that the January/February 2010 timeframe would sync up to that perfectly. I realize it's safe to assume that MMOs always follow some kind of "Standard Plan" when it comes to expansion releases. But don't let that kind of thing blind you to the obvious evidence we have available in this particular situation. |
My concern is this: Nov. 15-Jan 5. would be a TERRIBLE time to start closed betas. The holidays are approaching. People take time off. That means there's fewer man-hours to respond to the critical flaws that would crop up that early on. Patches would be slower coming.
At the same time, the holiday stressors (and shorter days... and the start of winter "cabin fever) can make even the most helpful playtester agitated... imagine what it'd do to the average forumite... not to mention they're playing a buggy pre-release product that isn't getting patches or dev responses to the problems in what the forumite sees as a "timely manner" (i.e. usually 15-20 minutes after their post)
I'd almost expect them to delay closed beta until mid-January just to avoid all that....
... which WOULD put them on schedule for a possible anniversary launch...

Why buy the cow if you get the milk for free? In my opinion, they won't hire her because she keeps putting these videos out for free.
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MA Arcs - 3430: Hell Hath No Fury / 3515: Positron Gets Some / 6600: Dyne of the Times / 351572: For All the Wrong Reasons
378944: Too Clever by Half / 459581: Kill or Cure / 551680: Clerical Errors (NEW!)
And in MY opinion, they won't hire me because my work's not good enough for them. (As evidenced by me repeatedly getting turned down or just outright ignored.)
But I'm not going to argue that point here - there's already another thread for that. The fact is, as long as even a handful of players want to see a S/D_R trailer for GOING ROGUE, the least I can do is give them one. Everyone else can ignore it as they see fit. Michelle aka Samuraiko/Dark_Respite |
Time to pull a Brantley Foster. Just show up at their offices, set up in one of the unused cubicles, and start pretending like you've been working there for weeks. After you carve out your little niche, wait a week or two, then complain to HR about a payroll glitch.
Then, when you're fully established, remind them that I'm still telecommuting from Pennsylvania and try to get me a redname.

They just rearranged their office cubes, according to some twitter posts... and they're getting rather big-- to the point that not every department will know everything going in the other departments.
Time to pull a Brantley Foster. Just show up at their offices, set up in one of the unused cubicles, and start pretending like you've been working there for weeks. After you carve out your little niche, wait a week or two, then complain to HR about a payroll glitch. Then, when you're fully established, remind them that I'm still telecommuting from Pennsylvania and try to get me a redname. |
Having said that, though, if DR does manges to do that and pull it off....PLEASE BRING ME ALONG!!!
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Well, there's the idea that the "August 15, 2009 to November 15, 2009" roughly corresponds to the first 3 months ( including open beta) of a direct competitor. Knowing that you AT LEAST remained a paying customer during that period has some value.
My concern is this: Nov. 15-Jan 5. would be a TERRIBLE time to start closed betas. The holidays are approaching. People take time off. That means there's fewer man-hours to respond to the critical flaws that would crop up that early on. Patches would be slower coming. At the same time, the holiday stressors (and shorter days... and the start of winter "cabin fever) can make even the most helpful playtester agitated... imagine what it'd do to the average forumite... not to mention they're playing a buggy pre-release product that isn't getting patches or dev responses to the problems in what the forumite sees as a "timely manner" (i.e. usually 15-20 minutes after their post) I'd almost expect them to delay closed beta until mid-January just to avoid all that.... ... which WOULD put them on schedule for a possible anniversary launch... |
I seriously doubt a gaming company with a big expansion lined up is going to let the holidays affect their ability to do their jobs quite as seriously as you're suggesting. At least you agree that GR is likely to happen more towards the first half of next year instead of the last half so I'll cut you some slack.

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Yeah. Bad time for the devs to actually be *working* (who wants to work on holidays?) but you'll have a lot more people around available to provide feedback since they'll be on some kind of break most likely. Those little dataminers they love can chew on info if no real people are around, at least.
Well since I think you are bending over backwards to paint a gloomy picture that "holiday beta testing is a bad thing" I'll counter with this observation: Most people have some kind of winter/holiday break from school/work during December. This timeframe might actually allow -more- testers to be available to do some testing with spare time they might not normally have.
I seriously doubt a gaming company with a big expansion lined up is going to let the holidays affect their ability to do their jobs quite as seriously as you're suggesting. At least you agree that GR is likely to happen more towards the first half of next year instead of the last half so I'll cut you some slack. ![]() |
CLOSED betas are supposed to be borked, but betas in MMO's have become more and more "preview" moments for the players... and players have proven to be... temperamental... so there's increased sensitivity by devs to appear responsive. It's a stretch to say they'd delay a closed beta because of it, but not much of one.

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Seriously, NCsoft should be paying you freelance for such a damn good job. 'Incarnate' had my spine tingling ^^ Beyond awesome.