Virtue Universe Meet Union


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About the only character I have that'd have any reason to be in the Unionverse to begin with is Paxtera, the time travelling peacebringer. Mostly cause she tends to see 'alternate dimension' and 'alternate timeline' as being roughly equivalent. All the others have little reason to leave their own dimension unless it becomes part of some plot or other and they end up needing to.

Also I actually vaguely remember that bit with your character in Paragon University. Was way before I joined but I'm one of those weird people who's actually read the entire thread.

Edit: Yeah, Devious explained it better than I can.


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Originally Posted by DeviousMe View Post
The same applies to the forums. The 'otherverse', I guess. He takes part in the threads that fit him and if the thread concludes (meaning it doesn't die or blow up; or even if it does and I just feel like it) I'll take what happened in it as canon for my character. Remember, KISS. I mean, if yalls want to make this complex and divide it up like yalls suggest, feel free to. But I'm stickin' to my guns. They're nice and simple, and if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
^ This, really.

Why over complicate stuff? I RP in the Paragon Universe, anything else is just salad dressing.


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Why over complicate stuff?
Because NA characters who join an EU thread will be there for the thread, but not for the associated ingame events. And this apparently ruins people's immersion or some such.


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I look at the stuff in-game as a sort of "archive" of the adventures of "The Hero" and "The Villain" (much in the same way Fallout Series refers to its main characters as "the Vault Dweller, Chosen One, or Wanderer") who have a pivotal impact on the world, but that may or may not necessarily be any one of our characters (I have a strong feeling that Apex may be "The Hero" though).

In-game, my characters interact with few other roleplayers. However, even as I play, I still "get in the heads" of my characters, getting a feel for the kind of person they are based on how their powers work or how they find their niche within a team. I apply this "feel" to them when I bring them here for roleplaying.

I also often converse while on teams as if I were my characters. While this isn't a new concept, I employ the conversations as if they're conversations my character has really had in their history. They help shape the sort of person the character is, and I have it carry over to here as well.

I use the roleplaying forum as a means of exploring where the story can be pushed. Our characters are able to have more of a "life" here, as opposed to being numbers, colored light and sound in there. Still, I don't see why either should be exclusive of each other.


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As it was, for a long time on the EU RP boards there was hardly any RP threads. It was for stories, discussions, questions and so forth. It's only in the past year or two that it started to happen with more regularity. Compared to visits to the US boards where there was a good chunk of posts marked with ((Open RP)) or ((Closed RP)).


 

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My roleplay threads almost always incorporates an in-game rp-pve or rp-pvp session to iron out the final conflict and properly decide who does *actually* win between the opposing forces of the story, and how. With those results, we then return to commence forum rp. Even in a non-conflict story, a nice evening rp-session barside in Pocket D can be concluded or expanded as forum rp, later in the morning, while you're at work. I would love to adopt a one-world perspective coined Paragon Universe but that might limit the forum/server relationship we've enjoyed for so long. We have separate servers and in my mind, that means separate universes across a greater multiverse. It's not complicated. There is one problem (rp-style clash) and so far, one suggested solution.


 

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Why is my passive-aggressive insult alarm ringing for some of these posts, mostly Pious'?

We get it the whole server/forum thing you are so crazy about. We get why that could cause problems.

So just put "closed" or "semi-closed" in the title of your thread. Get into details like, "No NA players allowed" in the OOC comments at the very beginning of what you type.

There doesn't need to be Union in the tag for the title. There certainly doesn't need to Virtue in the title tags because we allow anyone who wants to RP.

You've said countless times that there is inevitable conflict and we are bound to have issues. The only issue I've had so far is the one you're creating. A little comment here or there that implies that your way is better and you don't want NA players in your EU thread.

If that's the case just say it! The solution has already been presented. You recapping again and again what the differences are is only telling us what we already know and has been coming off as pretentious.


 

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I like the idea of the forum verse, in addition to the union verse (in game one).

Actually given the PG13 rating, some of my characters would have to be toned down to the point that it'd be easy to just say they are an alternative universe version.


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It's just that if somthing ever happened back on the old boards (almost) everyone would know abou that event (if it were a big thing!) and it'd be talked about wgile in game, the reprocussions felt, the development developed and so on. It was all just so nice and consistant.

But if we just go with the "It doesn't matter, just stick where you want" important universe setting details like big major threats (Like Dr Mechano, who almost he entire community have been involved.been on the reciving end of one of his plots) or big important organisations, all of which can be important to characters are just suddenly not there/you interact with people for who suddenly these thigns no longer exist for.

It's like people in a certian place whining that there's no X when people who are active in/take part in teh community know there's been a longstanding X.

Well in short I don't really want to RP characters I've spent a long time with in and intergrating into the Unionverse to suddenly be thrown into a "Other" or "Forumverse" and even if I did if some peopel like CB there treat it as an alternate universe, yyet I take FFMs or Devious advice and act like it was real, and said character who say met one of Cbs characters in the thread then goes "Oh hey I know you" only CB was working on the assumption that it was an alernate universe version and... yea it gets complicated.

So yea, just some issues that if I wasn't already dissilusioned with forum RP would make me so.


 

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Sorry if I'm coming across passive-aggressive, maybe I should use emotes more or something. I didn't mean to drum it all in, just felt like using more examples to make it easier to understand how we're used to doing it. I don't actually think either of the ways are better than the other. Most or all of our roleplayers play on Union so when we began forum rp, it just sort of happened, and its something I for one would like to keep doing, and yet somehow, still join you guys in your stories. Just trying to work something out. ...


 

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ok enough trying to herd cats

let us all agree that there are many ways to RP , and let us hang out clear signs as to what sort we are posting .as surgessted... if that doesnt work we can review and make changes ..

clarity of what one is doing helps understanding ... and agreement ..

and lets have lots of all the types of RP ..so we can have some fun...


 

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Truly can I feel the love in the room. Please activate the ego supressors.

Anyway, on a personal note, I hate Forum-based RP. I've engaged in it on the old EU servers only when it was something really drastically important to a character of mine, and even then it usually failed miserably. It's too slow, and highly non-interactive. Hence, I don't mind what you do, but I'd have to say that some simple labels and a basic knowledge of the difference in cultures is about all that's required.


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It's just that if somthing ever happened back on the old boards (almost) everyone would know abou that event (if it were a big thing!) and it'd be talked about wgile in game, the reprocussions felt, the development developed and so on. It was all just so nice and consistant.

But if we just go with the "It doesn't matter, just stick where you want" important universe setting details like big major threats (Like Dr Mechano, who almost he entire community have been involved.been on the reciving end of one of his plots) or big important organisations, all of which can be important to characters are just suddenly not there/you interact with people for who suddenly these thigns no longer exist for.

It's like people in a certian place whining that there's no X when people who are active in/take part in teh community know there's been a longstanding X.
Y'know, it's pretty much the same when a new player gets to the boards with a character who's written to have been in Paragon for a good long while. That person (and the character) ain't gonna know about that stuff either since it happened outside of the dev-written game canon - and they sure as shootin' aren't from an alternate universe.

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Well in short I don't really want to RP characters I've spent a long time with in and intergrating into the Unionverse to suddenly be thrown into a "Other" or "Forumverse" and even if I did if some peopel like CB there treat it as an alternate universe, yyet I take FFMs or Devious advice and act like it was real, and said character who say met one of Cbs characters in the thread then goes "Oh hey I know you" only CB was working on the assumption that it was an alernate universe version and... yea it gets complicated.
This is kind of a vague example, but I'd say in that case CB should just say so. Heck, an occurrence like that can even be spun into a plot of its own. Maybe at some future point CB's character travels back into the past, so the character who met CB's character met his/her/its future self instead of the present-day version. Or maybe it really was CB's character from an alternate universe. Or maybe there's amnesia involved. Or magic, or aliens, or magic aliens, or alien magic. Don't really matter much with the huge amount of explanations that can be strung up in less than two seconds.

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Sorry if I'm coming across passive-aggressive, maybe I should use emotes more or something. I didn't mean to drum it all in, just felt like using more examples to make it easier to understand how we're used to doing it. I don't actually think either of the ways are better than the other. Most or all of our roleplayers play on Union so when we began forum rp, it just sort of happened, and its something I for one would like to keep doing, and yet somehow, still join you guys in your stories.
Then just do it, bud. Nothin' stopping ya. Do your own threads how you like, jump into others however ya feel. It's really not such a big deal.


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This is kind of a vague example, but I'd say in that case CB should just say so. Heck, an occurrence like that can even be spun into a plot of its own. Maybe at some future point CB's character travels back into the past, so the character who met CB's character met his/her/its future self instead of the present-day version. Or maybe it really was CB's character from an alternate universe. Or maybe there's amnesia involved. Or magic, or aliens, or magic aliens, or alien magic. Don't really matter much with the huge amount of explanations that can be strung up in less than two seconds.
Don't give me idea's :P


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Why not? I've used most of those myself, y'know. And Rebel's really good with the time travel one.


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But that's just... we shouldn't have to come up with excuses like that, it's just silly :<


 

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Then don't. No one 'has to' do anything. It was just an example.


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It's just our characters don't just exis in a vacuum, espeiclaly logner running ones are intertwined with other characters, which we can't jsut take for granted like this as they're not our characters to decide.

So, just don't thinkt eh approach to "My char has had x y and z happen to him" with them all being in conflicting universes just doesn't make sense or sit right with me.


 

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It's just our characters don't just exis in a vacuum, espeiclaly logner running ones are intertwined with other characters, which we can't jsut take for granted like this as they're not our characters to decide.

So, just don't thinkt eh approach to "My char has had x y and z happen to him" with them all being in conflicting universes just doesn't make sense or sit right with me.
...what?

I hope you're fixin' to clarify this. I haven't got a clue what you're trying to say there.


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Then just do it, bud. Nothin' stopping ya. Do your own threads how you like, jump into others however ya feel. It's really not such a big deal.
I think what Omy is trying to say is that just jumping into non-unionverse stories with his unionverse characters doesn't sit right with him or doesn't make sense to him. Immersion and continuity and all that. I'm guessing, like me, he will simply refrain from doing so and stick with unionverse threads which we now agree will be clearly marked as such. I'll be working on one over the weekend (forum rp with linked union server events) so... watch this space!


 

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And Rebel's really good with the time travel one.
That's debatable. I know it gives Grey headaches at least.


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Pious summed it up pretty well, I might go back and edit that, it made sense in my head honest! :< Typo's didn't help :<


 

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In the Unionverse, the Cowman wears a top hat and monocle.


 

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Oh no, I get that Omy's got an aversion to it. What I don't get is why it's a big deal. Like I said earlier, the same thing can happen if someone not on Union with a character that's got an established backstory in the events of Paragon City one day decides to hop on the boards. Seriously, would anyone here not play with such a person, or want some alternate universe explanation for their character being there? I'd like to think not. I'd like to think yalls'd say howdy and keep a-goin' with business as usual. The only difference here is that there's not one person, but a couple dozen. Why does this make someone uncomfortable?


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It's just our characters don't just exis in a vacuum, espeiclaly logner running ones are intertwined with other characters, which we can't jsut take for granted like this as they're not our characters to decide.

So, just don't thinkt eh approach to "My char has had x y and z happen to him" with them all being in conflicting universes just doesn't make sense or sit right with me.

I'm having a hard time understanding this. You think of the open rp's we write as other universes? Like portal corp. different dimensions? Is that it?

Because that's not right. While we write things that don't happen in game, it's still the same universe, reality, or dimension. It's just that we don't play it out in game.

As for our characters not knowing about big events that happened to your characters, how is that a deal breaker? Yours won't know about ours. Do they know about how Helsinger captured one of our own? Or what happened to ours during the Zig breakout that correlated with the release of CoV?

No. Why should they? I'm sure they were busy dealing with their own world-ending threats at the same time we were dealing with ours. A lot goes on in Paragon City. End of the world scenarios are daily occurances.

I can get not wanting to get involved because you want to RP in game, or have one character in multiple stories (very few have done that) but story-wise I don't. It's the same city.

Regardless of ALL that. Why not just make a new character for different threads? That's what we typically do.

If you really are wondering what it would be like in one of our threads try that. Of course, for in game RPing, you'd have to get on the NA servers, and then find us, and we're spread all across the globe. Rebel Scum is on Mars, and believe me, the time zone difference between Earth and Mars is a big one.

And DeviousMe's brain is in the Asteroid belt, but we only worry about that when he tells us he has an idea.