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CoV: Terrorist characters get genericed?

7thCynic

By 7thCynic,
Posted on: 2009-08-07 10:08 in CoH and CoV General Discussions

 

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Originally Posted by poptart_fairy View Post
The developers know what the developers' intentions are. The developers don't know what a player's intentions are.
Then they shouldn't assume they're ill intentions any more than good ones, or none at all.

 

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Originally Posted by Ultimo_ View Post
Then they shouldn't assume they're ill intentions any more than good ones, or none at all.
Hence why GMs use their best judgement. Do keep up with how moderation works.

 

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Originally Posted by poptart_fairy View Post
Hence why GMs use their best judgement. Do keep up with how moderation works.
The snide comment wasn't necessary.

The point of the whole thread is that the GMs don't appear to be using their best judgement.

 

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Originally Posted by Ultimo_ View Post
The snide comment wasn't necessary.
You shouldn't assume.

 

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Originally Posted by poptart_fairy View Post
You shouldn't assume.
Which is what I was saying. The moderators don't know the intent of the player, so they shouldn't assume that the intentions are bad.

Just as you shouldn't assume that I don't know how moderation works, if indeed, that's what you're implying with your condescending comment.

 

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Originally Posted by Ultimo_ View Post
Which is what I was saying. The moderators don't know the intent of the player, so they shouldn't assume that the intentions are bad.

Just as you shouldn't assume that I don't know how moderation works, if indeed, that's what you're implying with your condescending comment.
Nope, simply implying that you need to keep up with moderation in a multi-user environment - when in doubt, take action. Unfortunately the OP seems to have neglected any form of rational thought, and decided to come running to the forum before making any sort of appeal.

Methinks he's more concerned with attracting attention with the name than he is any censorship.

 

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What I find really funny about this is that anyone playing villain side at one point or another during the game can be considered a terrorist. I mean I know I have done a few missions where I am sent to Paragon to plant a bomb to blow something or other up. Then there is one of the missions from the Radio where I let a virus loose in a part of the city.....

In short, very lame to generic a... well... generic terrorist name =/

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Nope, simply implying that you need to keep up with moderation in a multi-user environment - when in doubt, take action. Unfortunately the OP seems to have neglected any form of rational thought, and decided to come running to the forum before making any sort of appeal.

Methinks he's more concerned with attracting attention with the name than he is any censorship.
Or he was honestly wondering if there was actually anything wrong with his name so he figured he would ask the rest of the playerbase to get their opinions before bothering the GMs about it.

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Originally Posted by poptart_fairy View Post
Hence why GMs use their best judgement.

It's unfortunate paying customers are subject to the whims of these minimum wage despots.

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It's unfortunate paying customers are subject to the whims of these minimum wage despots.
Yeah. Those jerks at the local resturant won't let me take a dump in their soup bowls either.

 

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Nope, simply implying that you need to keep up with moderation in a multi-user environment - when in doubt, take action. Unfortunately the OP seems to have neglected any form of rational thought, and decided to come running to the forum before making any sort of appeal.

Methinks he's more concerned with attracting attention with the name than he is any censorship.


You sir are wrong. I sent in an appeal then immediately made this thread.

 

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Originally Posted by The_Coming_Storm View Post
You sir are wrong. I sent in an appeal then immediately made this thread.
Then maybe it's best to wait for their response before firing up the effigy burninator.

 

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Be thankful that FBI isn't knocking down your door. The could be, if this was WoW, ya know.

 

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Originally Posted by poptart_fairy View Post
I'm sorry, you seem to be under the impression Malta operate in the real world, and that the OP called himself Malta Extremist rather than Extremist Insurgent.
He wasnt called an Al Quieda insurgent, its a fictional character unrelated to real world terrorist groups unless it was specified otherwise in his bio. The malta group as well is a fictional terrorist organization that was put by the devs in the game! If they get to make terrorists, why not the players?

 

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Yeah. Those jerks at the local resturant won't let me take a dump in their soup bowls either.
Horrible analogy, doesn't relate to the topic at all.

 

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He wasnt called an Al Quieda insurgent, its a fictional character unrelated to real world terrorist groups unless it was specified otherwise in his bio. The malta group as well is a fictional terrorist organization that was put by the devs in the game! If they get to make terrorists, why not the players?
Because the developers know the intentions of the developers. I thought you might have grasped that the first time it was said.

 

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Horrible analogy, doesn't relate to the topic at all.
Nope, sorry. It's spot-on: GMs set rules, chaps at the local resturant set rules. You break them, you pay the consequences. Simple, TBH.

 

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Then choose a new name and move on with your life. Thems the rules, regardless of how many people harp on about NC Soft's own content. Protip: developers don't go by the same ones they set down for the playerbase.

 

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ANYTHING could be "unintentionally inflammatory."

 

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Nope, sorry. It's spot-on: GMs set rules, chaps at the local resturant set rules. You break them, you pay the consequences. Simple, TBH.
You should know as well as I do that the GM's dont always know whats going on in this game.

 

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You should know as well as I do that the GM's dont always know whats going on in this game.
Still doesn't change the fact that rules are rules. The playerbase has proven itself to be fickle, idiotic, hypocritical, attention seeking, monumentally ignorant plenty of times previously - yet I'd be called out, rightly, if I used that to label everyone like it in the future. Funny that.

 

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Nope, simply implying that you need to keep up with moderation in a multi-user environment - when in doubt, take action. Unfortunately the OP seems to have neglected any form of rational thought, and decided to come running to the forum before making any sort of appeal.

Methinks he's more concerned with attracting attention with the name than he is any censorship.
And now you assume.

 

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And now you assume.
HOLY CRAP INFINITE LOOP.

Maybe he can spend more time proving me wrong than he can pretending to be outraged by this change.

 

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Still doesn't change the fact that rules are rules. The playerbase has proven itself to be fickle, idiotic, hypocritical, attention seeking, monumentally ignorant plenty of times previously - yet I'd be called out, rightly, if I used that to label everyone like it in the future. Funny that.
That is a generalization (an unfair one, if you ask me). If that's the measure the mods are using, then they're assuming a whooole lot. The great majority of people I've met in the game are not any of the things you listed (though there have been a few).

Generalizing that appraisal of the playerbase to all individual players is like throwing out a whole barrel of apples because you found one bad one.

 

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Generalizing that appraisal of the playerbase to all individual players is like throwing out a whole barrel of apples because you found one bad one.
Isn't it amazing how people can read what others post, but not actually understand it.

 

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Originally Posted by poptart_fairy View Post
Isn't it amazing how people can read what others post, but not actually understand it.
Alright, let's see.

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The playerbase has proven itself to be fickle, idiotic, hypocritical, attention seeking, monumentally ignorant plenty of times previously.
This isn't a generalization about the playerbase?

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...yet I'd be called out, rightly, if I used that to label everyone like it in the future. Funny that.
The choice of words here is perhaps a little confusing. By "that" you seem to mean the generalization above. "Everyone" would seem to be the playerbase. "It" would seem to be a reference to the generalization.

Thus, I took you to be saying that you would be "rightly" called out if you applied that generalization to the entire playerbase.

It seems to me that's what we've been doing all along. We're calling out the mods for applying a generalization (though not necessarily the one mentioned above) to everyone, whether the generalization fits or not.