Warshade blasting as a human vs. a nova

This was far from a pissing contest. this was "Hey! I'm 10 feet tall and bullet proof!" followed by "Err no, your 5'4" and kinda squishy".

When falsehoods are not beaten down as such they become truths in the eyes of the uninformed.

I have actually watched parts of those video's now (I couldn't before since I was at work, and also because I didn't really see the need as video's don't prove much) and the first one clearly says "City of Heroes (Warshade), Code Name: VestigeOne" which proves AlienOne is correct saying that it is him.

The 2nd one also spends a LOT of time shapeshifting and missing out on DPS - but that is because he is facing Malta and most people would go slowly against those ******s as they are the only group in the game that can reliably hit you once and render you useless.

Also AlienOne has 3 fluffies out a lot of the time which contributes a shedload of DPS, something my build can do but I don't keep track of the recharge time enough to actually do it in practice.

Still I would be interested to give that mission a go.

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Originally Posted by Aggelakis PrincessDarkstar: "RAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRGHHHHHHHHHH SOMEONE IS *WRONG* ON THE INTERNET!"

Just look up @AlienOne in the MA... I believe the name of it is called "The Battle For Humanity"... Not a very good story, since I made it in a hurry and it was specifically so I could test the capabilities of my human-only form... If you want a better story, check out my other published one--the "CorpsOne" one... I invested a bunch more time into writing that one...

Also, be forewarned! There is a seemingly endless amount of ambushes in my warshade test one! Every time you start attacking a group around one of those altars, ambushes start pouring in... It's easy to get overwhelmed. You might find on a tri-form that you wind up staying in dwarf form most of the time, as switching forms with that many enemies around you is pretty much suicide, unless you're just damn good.

Also, don't forget to map it for 8 players!

In addition, I think videos prove more than numbers do, because they show actual situational gameplay, which most of the time can't figure into "generalized" numbers. Most numbers people throw out don't factor the type of mob you're fighting against, whether you're solo or teamed, how many team members there are, whether or not you're solo mapped for 8 (which I do a lot of times), which difficulty setting you're on, or even if you're fighting in a normal mission, an AV mission, or an AE customized mission. Average general numbers for human/nova/dwarf form can say one thing, and the situation might dictate another, depending on what sort of enemies you encounter and what sort of reflexes/experience you may have, as well as the difficulty setting you're on.

"The One"

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Originally Posted by Infernus_Hades The way you play changes your IO slotting..

Well, I tend to be able to tell much easier if a person is making up stuff if I see a video of who/what they're fighting against, and what exactly their playstyle is, than if someone is just throwing up some random numbers which I don't have memorized off the top of my head. I can see a video and tell for myself "Oh, they're fighting against all LTs..." Or, "Oh, they're on the 'rugged' difficulty setting" or "Ok, looks like that's mission/mob is mapped for 8"... A good example of this is that post where someone was acting like me and posting the videos... I could see (obviously) that it was me and not them in the video, and in the other video I could see exactly how hard the mobs they were fighting were, what their playstyle was, and how difficult it really was for them to take it down.

If someone threw numbers at me? I'd say "Ok, whatever... Let me see you play your toon, and then we'll talk."

By the way, how'd you do on the mission solo?

"The One"

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Originally Posted by Infernus_Hades The way you play changes your IO slotting..

Oh AlienOne I forgot to mention that I only fought 2 or 3 mobs in your arc, being solo with small spawns bores to to tears - cannot wait for i16!

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Originally Posted by Aggelakis PrincessDarkstar: "RAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRGHHHHHHHHHH SOMEONE IS *WRONG* ON THE INTERNET!"

You are entitled to your opinion, and FYI I used to work "in the industry" as well ( a small Television station) and for the record I hate math. I have never been what I concider "good" at it.

I have had to become better at it because the numbers is where the facts live and breath, your belief that monoform is just as good as tri-form is your own personal opinion while mine and I believe Darkstar's is a very provable fact that Tri-form dishes out more damage (nearly 100% more) and can tank (meaning actually tank as oppossed to just being able to take alot of damage) and still do almost everything your mono form can do, nearly as well as you can do it is a proveable fact using numbers, which is the only universaly accepted way to prove things of this nature.

Your unwillingness to accept scientificly provable facts using scientific method only shows you have made your conclusions based soley on biase and this is exactly what I will continue to fight against for the benefit of the people who might actually listen to your advice based simply on your longstanding in the Kheldian community and or post count.

Your facts are wrong, your advice is flawed, and as long as you continue to make claims on whats most or as effective without anything but your gut feeling and video as your basis I will continue to argue with you on it.

But let me just say now, aside from your methods making me crazy I do actually like you. I enjoy your presence on the boards and enjoy your non-scientific based posts alot. This will however not stop me from trying to beat you down when I believe your facts are as far off as I believe they truely are.

The problem here is, I am not "backed into a corner" as you seem to think. My argument has always (and will continue to be) that playing a certain way as a Kheld is a PLAYSTYLE choice. I have no interest in numbers. I advise people, not on "this will make you hit 10 points more per second", but on "this is probably how you'll have the most fun, due to what you have stated as your preferable playstyle." You advise people through numbers. I don't consider your way to be wrong. Neither should you consider my way to be wrong, primarily because (as I've also stated before) it's just a game. Not a life-or-death situation.

Now, if we were both in an ambulance as paramedics trying to keep a person alive? In real life? Yeah, I'd go with numbers and statistics. But, this isn't real life. This is about having fun in a game.

Heck, I'd even give the floor to you numbers-wise in the game, if this were a person who was trying to build a toon for "best performance in PvP", because there, numbers ARE king. I daresay that might be the background where you're coming from, which would explain your fixation with numbers in City of Heroes/Villains. However, when it comes to having fun while playing your character.... I don't think every single person playing the game needs to know "by the numbers" why they should build their character a certain way, and no other way. That's just dictating how someone "should" play their game, which I don't believe is right at all.

Also, for someone who is concerned about accuracy, you certainly are innacurate about YOUR conclusions. How were you, by facts and numbers, able to draw the conclusion that I "dislike the results science and numbers provide?" I have never stated that I "dislike" the results. I've merely stated that I am a skeptic. And, skeptics are the sort of people that try to get the numbers people to "think outside the box" and "dream" a bit. If you think of life in terms of facts and figures all the time, I'd think one would become quite bored or insane... I know I would. I tend to be the more "creative" type. In fact, that may very well be the reasoning why I decided to go with a "human-only" build. Because I like to be a little more creative with getting something done, rather than maybe "the way it was intended."

In addition, if we were to go off-topic again, I could go on ALL DAY about carbon dating and how it's only able to ACCURATELY read in thousands of years, and not millions. But, again, that's off topic.

Again, (I'm not sure how many times I can repeat myself until I'm blue in the face), I'm not "dodging facts", I'm saying that we will not agree, because we're on completely different playing fields. I'm on a "playstyle" playing field, and you're on a "numbers and facts" playing field. My playstyle affects your numbers, insomuch as they aren't "as good as you think they should be", and your numbers affects my playstyle in that you think I should be playing my game a different way. And, no, I will not ever let anyone tell me how to play my game. I don't care what facts, numbers, bribes or whatever someone throws my way. You can count on that.

"The One"

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Originally Posted by Infernus_Hades The way you play changes your IO slotting..

Numbers prove potential, Videos prove skill... oh, and do not go to Z'Ha'Dum.