Does Shld Charge Crit??


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Tile says it all. Ive had shield charge for a few lvls now on my fire/shld scrapper and notice that FSC will crit but i havent seen shield charge crit yet. Am i just missing it or does it not crit and why??? the why is more curiosity then anything.


lvl 50 AR/EM, lvl 50 SS/Shld brute, lvl 50 Shld/SS, lvl 50 Stone/SS
lvl 50 Dark/Fire, lvl 50 WP/EM, lvl 50 WP/Fire, lvl 50 Fire/Kin
lvl 50 Emp/Dark, lvl 50 Thug/Pain, lvl 50 Fire/Shld, lvl 48 Ill/Rad
lvl 45 BS/Regen lvl 42 Ice/EM

 

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Nope.


 

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I don't believe it crits, and I think the "why" of it is that it is not part of an attack set.

It doesn't appear that the damage auras crit either.


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ty guys good to know i can stop messing with it now.


lvl 50 AR/EM, lvl 50 SS/Shld brute, lvl 50 Shld/SS, lvl 50 Stone/SS
lvl 50 Dark/Fire, lvl 50 WP/EM, lvl 50 WP/Fire, lvl 50 Fire/Kin
lvl 50 Emp/Dark, lvl 50 Thug/Pain, lvl 50 Fire/Shld, lvl 48 Ill/Rad
lvl 45 BS/Regen lvl 42 Ice/EM

 

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Originally Posted by BillZBubba View Post
It doesn't appear that the damage auras crit either.
Just to nitpick, this is the case with all except for one damage aura: Quills.


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It does not crit because it is a pseudo pet lighting rod should not crit when we get that for scrappers as well due to the pusedo pet summoning way they use the power


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Originally Posted by Hejtmane View Post
It does not crit because it is a pseudo pet lighting rod should not crit when we get that for scrappers as well due to the pusedo pet summoning way they use the power
Technically, they could make it crit by making a unique pseudo pet for us. It has been done before (like Rain of Fire Scourging for Corruptors), but it doesn't have to. I wouldn't expect for Lightning Rod to crit for Scrappers, either, since it doesn't crit for Stalkers (who have always have a chance to crit).


 

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Originally Posted by DSorrow View Post
Just to nitpick, this is the case with all except for one damage aura: Quills.
Ahh, but quills is part of an attack set and should crit. (yea, I forgot quills. I never play spines.)


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'Cause obviously shield charge isn't buff enough of scrappers as it is.


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Originally Posted by Sarrate View Post
I wouldn't expect for Lightning Rod to crit for Scrappers, either, since it doesn't crit for Stalkers (who have always have a chance to crit).
Wouldn't that break "the rule."

Are there any other attacks from an attack set that Don't crit?


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Originally Posted by BillZBubba View Post
Wouldn't that break "the rule."

Are there any other attacks from an attack set that Don't crit?
Yeah, it does kind of break the rule, but Lightning Rod is a pretty unique power. If I recall correctly, it doesn't even deal full damage to everything in its radius, the different bits of damage have different radii. Actually, that may be the reason it doesn't crit, to avoid cumulative crit chances for mobs close to the epicenter if different ranges should deal different crit damage. (I think there is a way around it, but I'm not positive.)

At any rate, I'm not saying I don't think it should crit or that I'd object to it critting. There is just precedence for it to not crit, so it wouldn't surprise me if it didn't is all.


 

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Is there any reason that attacks from a Secondary set will not Crit? I know that Pool attack powers do crit (unless that has changed). Or is this more from a coding issue, a la the pseudo pet damage?


 

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I'm 99% sure that Castle could make any power crit that he wants to. The question is only whether he will want to.

Were it up to me (and this is a great reason why it isn't) any attack that a scrapper uses, including damage auras in the secondary powersets, should be able to crit.

Blocking the ability of our inherent to do its thing seems very wrong to me, especially in light of the fact that brute fury does buff damage auras.


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The problem, is that they'd have to make a new pseudo pet for scrapper shield charge to make it crit. Currently, scraps, tanks, and brutes all use the same pet, and thus shield charge does the same damage for all 3 ATs. Brutes really make out like bandits here, given that fury is the only inherent that effects shield charge.


 

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Originally Posted by SpiderTeo_OC View Post
Is there any reason that attacks from a Secondary set will not Crit? I know that Pool attack powers do crit (unless that has changed). Or is this more from a coding issue, a la the pseudo pet damage?
Other than, "Just because" it doesn't seem like it. Creating new pseudo pets is one thing (burn, shield charge, Lightning Rod), but when powers like death shroud, blazing aura, RotP, Dark regeneration, consume, etc. don't crit, and powers like jump kick, flurry, boxing, and the epic attacks do crit, that doesn't make sense to me.


 

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Originally Posted by Soul_Fane View Post
Other than, "Just because" it doesn't seem like it. Creating new pseudo pets is one thing (burn, shield charge, Lightning Rod), but when powers like death shroud, blazing aura, RotP, Dark regeneration, consume, etc. don't crit, and powers like jump kick, flurry, boxing, and the epic attacks do crit, that doesn't make sense to me.
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I am of the mind that any attack a scrapper does, regardless of source, should crit. Given it is our inherent and god given right! Then again, on my dm/sd shield charge is already so very cash.


 

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Originally Posted by MoralisticFallac View Post
I am of the mind that any attack a scrapper does, regardless of source, should crit. Given it is our inherent and god given right! Then again, on my dm/sd shield charge is already so very cash.
Scrappers inherent hasn't been updated in a REALLY long time. Unfortunately, it's tied to the powers, not the AT.


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Originally Posted by Desmodos View Post
Scrappers inherent hasn't been updated in a REALLY long time. Unfortunately, it's tied to the powers, not the AT.
Yep. It would be nice if crit chance were a statistic applicable to the damage formula instead of being hard-coded into certain powers.