Thankfully Win7 is NOT an upgraded Vista. Win7 actually works and does what it claims thus far lol
I know several people using the game on Beta and RCs of Win7 and they are all getting better performance and stability than Vista even with Beta drivers.
So for all intensive purposes it will work, however there may be certain twitchyness for a bit as NC may need to do some updates themselves to the client to make 100% compliant.
Woop thats what I wanted to hear, I had vista and hated it so went back to XP. Pre-ordered Win 7 from Amazon so not too expensive either.
Using Win 7 here and everythings running smoothly.
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Amazon.co.uk have now removed the pre-order option from their Home Premium version, but ...
>HERE< is a location that allows you to click on other sites doing the £49.99 promotion. Unsure if this is purely a UK thing or not.
Can't seem to preorder the Ultimate version anywhere in the UK it's almost as though it doesn't exist!
Still, W7 Pro E still looks nice, but I would like the option to change the langauge on Windows to Japanese when I choose/run Japanese programs.
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hmm wonder why that stopped that on Amazon
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hmm wonder why that stopped that on Amazon
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Too many pre-orders already come through - maybe they didn't expect it to be so popular?
Windows 7 (EU)
Will be out: October 22nd
Won't have: Internet Explorer 8 (EU Regulations)
Will most likely have: EULA allowing Micro$oft to add/remove/change any programs and settings at it's discression. (Basically M$ could remove any web browser etc not of it's making...)
Forum note: The EULA information above is based on the Windows 7 RC (Release Candidate) one...
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Thankfully Win7 is NOT an upgraded Vista. Win7 actually works and does what it claims thus far lol
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Wrong. Windows 7 is built on the same kernel as Vista. It's just been greatly optimized and improved, but it's STILL the Vista codebase.
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So for all intensive purposes it will work, however there may be certain twitchyness for a bit as NC may need to do some updates themselves to the client to make 100% compliant.
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There is no "twitchyness". CoH runs perfectly under Windows 7 and there are no driver issues for any mainstream hardware. Problems MAY arise if you have very rare or very old hardware, but if that's the case, you're not likely to be upgrading to Windows 7.
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Won't have: Internet Explorer 8 (EU Regulations)
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The bold bit is not correct. Win 7 will be missing IE 8 because Microsoft have CHOSEN to release it that way in the UE. The EU commission have made no decision yet about IE8 in Win 7. MS are merely pre-empting them so EU Regulations have zero to do with it.
It's quite likely that when the EU Commission DO hand down their decision, it will be to tell MS to include a screen where they can choose from a selection of different browsers. This is what MS are trying to prevent by dropping the browser altogether (and I don't blame them either).
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Windows 7 (EU)
Will be out: October 22nd
Won't have: Internet Explorer 8 (EU Regulations)
Will most likely have: EULA allowing Micro$oft to add/remove/change any programs and settings at it's discression. (Basically M$ could remove any web browser etc not of it's making...)
Forum note: The EULA information above is based on the Windows 7 RC (Release Candidate) one...
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And i was hoping such pathetic people using the $ wouldnt be here..
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Windows 7 (EU)
Will be out: October 22nd
Won't have: Internet Explorer 8 (EU Regulations)
Will most likely have: EULA allowing Micro$oft to add/remove/change any programs and settings at it's discression. (Basically M$ could remove any web browser etc not of it's making...)
Forum note: The EULA information above is based on the Windows 7 RC (Release Candidate) one...
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And i was hoping such pathetic people using the $ wouldnt be here..
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You just get cheerier and cheerier, don't you 
On the browser thing, personally I don't mind if MS bundle a browser application with their OS. Problem with IE for me is the fact the damn thing gets hardwired into the OS, with no way to remove it.
If you don't include any at all then how do people get one then? Is IE an "optional update" for the OS or does one have to go down the rather silly install from CD or Key method?
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Wrong. Windows 7 is built on the same kernel as Vista. It's just been greatly optimized and improved, but it's STILL the Vista codebase.
There is no "twitchyness". CoH runs perfectly under Windows 7 and there are no driver issues for any mainstream hardware. Problems MAY arise if you have very rare or very old hardware, but if that's the case, you're not likely to be upgrading to Windows 7.
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Given that its not finished you can guarantee none of that. And yes it is the same basic kernel - theres far more that HAS been changed and made 100% originally (unable to say what due to NDA). Including the way it handles certain elements and processes compared to Vista as it stands but again cannot say more.
And theres no guarantee it will work perfectly on all mainstream hardware setups either 100% certainly. Hence why I was giving generalised advice as noones got the final version. And even if you had you can't say that it will work 100% anyway as the manufacturers haven't released final drivers for it yet either - so even Microsoft themselves cannot guarantee it 
(Plus if you had got it and did say you'd be liable for prosecution)
Not to mention that theres no guarantee that NC won't do something to break the client between now and then - it's happened before.
But OT - as mentioned previously - for all intensive purposes and evidences it should work fine.
EDIT: Regarding IE8 - thank the gods for Firefox tbh lol
I didn't, in fact, make ANY guarantees. Read my post again, I challenge you to find the word 'guarantee' anywhere in it.
However, I've been running the Win 7 beta's since they started coming out (and not the public beta either), and have never had any problems. My current build is the last one they released to beta testers (newer than the RC), and it works flawlessly. Paragon Studios would REALLY have to bugger about with CoH to make it not work perfectly on it.
As for Firefox. Good luck downloading it without a browser. You'll have to download it on another PC or get it before you update, and you can do the same for IE8 too, so it was pretty much a pointless comment really.
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I didn't, in fact, make ANY guarantees. Read my post again, I challenge you to find the word 'guarantee' anywhere in it.
However, I've been running the Win 7 beta's since they started coming out (and not the public beta either), and have never had any problems. My current build is the last one they released to beta testers (newer than the RC), and it works flawlessly. Paragon Studios would REALLY have to bugger about with CoH to make it not work perfectly on it.
As for Firefox. Good luck downloading it without a browser. You'll have to download it on another PC or get it before you update, and you can do the same for IE8 too, so it was pretty much a pointless comment really.
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Good old Windoze.
With Linux you can do without a browser in one line (maybe 2)
IE8 will be available on Windows Update.
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IE8 will be available on Windows Update.
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So you won't have to download it from another PC? And it's a stand-alone browser rather than hardwired in?
Excellent. Have they fixed their download system and added a download manager yet? IE7 still uses the one from 5.0 and it's deeply annoying. Crappy pop-up style downloading is so passe.
No download manager, alas. Still works mostly the same way, although Windows Update is now it's own program and now a browser page.
I've just been checking MS's guidance on installing a browser on IE8. It appears as if it may NOT actually appear in Windows Update after all, which is unfortunate. For anyone wondering, the page is here.
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-gb/w...p/installing-e
TBH, I think it's an unfortunate decision for MS to make, but I can't really say as I blame them. If you want someone to blame, email Opera. THEY are the ones who brought this about because no one uses their rubbish software on desktops.
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I was under the impression that this applied to OEM copies and that the supplier has the option to include and or all browsers with Windows and it is believed likely that they will go down the line of supplying at least the 3 main browsers - IE, Firefox and Chrome, Lynx may get a look in if enough people say something.
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I was under the impression that this applied to OEM copies and that the supplier has the option to include and or all browsers with Windows and it is believed likely that they will go down the line of supplying at least the 3 main browsers - IE, Firefox and Chrome, Lynx may get a look in if enough people say something.
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OEM's will indeed be able to preinstall a browser for you, but what you get is up to the OEM. Considering the bloatware garbage they usually install, expect a REALLY bad browser.
Retail copies in the EU will ALL be the "e" version, without any browser at all.
@FloatingFatMan
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No download manager, alas. Still works mostly the same way, although Windows Update is now it's own program and now a browser page.
I've just been checking MS's guidance on installing a browser on IE8. It appears as if it may NOT actually appear in Windows Update after all, which is unfortunate. For anyone wondering, the page is here.
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-gb/w...p/installing-e
TBH, I think it's an unfortunate decision for MS to make, but I can't really say as I blame them. If you want someone to blame, email Opera. THEY are the ones who brought this about because no one uses their rubbish software on desktops.
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No-one eh? So I must be using some sort of other browser then? Silly me, I thought the big red O meant Opera. Used it for years and it's easily my favourite browser, has been since version 6 both here and at home.
(turns out it's also easily the king of high speed rendering of complex Ajax-based web applications, Firefox comes last in here. And the chief developer doesn't even use Opera, he just asked me to open something in it and was blown away).
OK, there's a certain amount of hyperbole in my "no one" remark, but they have an insignificant market share, which IS sufficient to say "no one".
Take a look for yourself.
http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp
It has even less users than Safari, which is a dreadful browser.
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OK, there's a certain amount of hyperbole in my "no one" remark, but they have an insignificant market share, which IS sufficient to say "no one".
Take a look for yourself.
http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp
It has even less users than Safari, which is a dreadful browser.
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I've never equated popularity with how good something is, I'm funny like that.
I never said it was popular, Firefox is much friendlier and took most of Opera potential audience. I find Firefox is a big of a hog though and it tends to freeze up more often.
I just prefer the features Opera offers. Firefox does have the excellent Web Developer toolbar though which I miss in Opera. IE is just used for testing basically, since it's such a dick about doing things like CSS differently. The newer versions of IE are horrid in terms of interface as well. And the arachic downloading system is just laughable.
I tried Opera once a year or two ago. It wasn't able to see my internet connection on a fresh install, which is bloody odd seeing as it's a LAN... Haven't bothered with it since.
Amusingly, their latest version, Opera Unite, is having some quite humongous teething problems in beta...
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With windows 7 now being able to be pre ordered, does anyone know if the game will run ok?
I know it's not out until October but I have just pre-ordered and was intersted to find out, seeing as technically Win 7 is an upgraded Vista.