Event Packs & Vet Reward Suggestions.

EVENT:
I feel that the 'Event' rewards should also be available as 'Mini' booster packs:
Valentines, Halloween, Winter, Etc.

VETERAN:
I would keep the veteran badges but...
As for the three, six & twelve (3, 6 & 12) monthly veterans rewards,
I feel that these should be re-categorised into pool based choices as follows:

'C'omplimentary, available every 3 months.
'B'i-annual, available evey 6 months.
'A'nnual, available every year.

And the remaining month options into these pools.
(For example at 6 months the Veteran Reward would be one from the B or C pools.)

(The A pool rewards could remain as they are currently.)

I believe that rather than giving us fixed rewards, such as the Greek Emblems or the
Boxing Costume, that the player-base would prefer to choose from a list of available
options.

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No and No.

Events are just that, events. If we wanna skii down the slope we'd have to buy the x-mas pack? heh f that noise.

Veteran rewards are fine as they are for the most part.
Some things are silly like no 45 month reward and that the helmets come at 51 months while sprints are in at 12 months (they're both preorder bonus things given).
Would also make people pick the better vet rewards right away, play for a year and you can get the 60month reward? no thanks.

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I'm with Neko - events are time-based, otherwise what's the point? It gives us things to look forward to, and play through... Where's the 'only three days of Xmas left' fun, otherwise?

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No and No.

Events are just that, events. If we wanna skii down the slope we'd have to buy the x-mas pack? heh f that noise.

Veteran rewards are fine as they are for the most part.
Some things are silly like no 45 month reward and that the helmets come at 51 months while sprints are in at 12 months (they're both preorder bonus things given).
Would also make people pick the better vet rewards right away, play for a year and you can get the 60month reward? no thanks.

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I think Coolio meant the rewards that come from the events being purchasable. The events themselves would still be on only for a short time, but you'd have the option of paying for the santa hat, the hearts pattern and halo auras, the pumpkin head, etc. I don't know what else there is in the way of rewards other than cossies and badges, and I think the Badges could still be linked to completing things within the events themselves.

I took it to be a suggestion that the costume piece rewards would be made purchasable.

As to the Veteran rewards, picking your own would be good, but now, after as long as they've had it going the way it is, I think it'd be a bit unfair to the true veteran players (or, Veteran Payers, since you could theorectically have all the rewards without having even having logged in for years).

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Ty for the replies... And:

1.
Yes regarding the Events, I meant the costume pieces.

Based on all the available ones per event from the past till now!

2.
Yes I already took the 12 month rewards into consideration...

I did state that the various 12 month rewards could stay as is, future ones could be placed in pool A alongside the locked first 5 annual rewards.

Which would mean that a 24 month player would have the option of either the 24 month or a pool A reward!

I was also thinking of rewards such as the Arachnos Helmets which may be prefered over some of the other rewards by Villain's

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all of which does sound cool, but i can see people being [censored] at it.
Event stuff, fair enough, as I waited 9months to get the winter event just for those damn furry boots for a toon.
I'd have liked to have waited til my 8000000month reward before picking the Greek letters and instead took something that interested me, but it still kinda means something if I see someone running around in samurai armour. Though, I suppose, limiting the choices of rewards into different pools/tiers would maintain some of the validity of that. After 12 months I'd hope that people are maybe not as good as they'll ever be, but certainly experienced enough (and with a long enough attention span) that they're fun to play with.

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@craggy see me on Union for TFs, SFs (please!) or just some good ol fashioned teaming.

Please make us pay extra for every little thing that is put into the game. Mmmmmm.... no.

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I'm just suggesting the ADDED option of getting missed costume pieces via minipacks AND arranging the vet rewards so that players can skip any of that pool/tier's reward options in favor of a more preferred one.

To try and explain further...
Rewards (NOT Badges) sugested for pool/tier:
'C' - Complimentary (3 Months)
3 9 15 21 27 33 39 45 51 57 (+ 63 69 75 ...)
'B' - Bi-Annual (6 Months)
6 18 30 42 54 (+ 66 78 ...)
'A' - Annual (Yearly)
(from 72 ...)
And keep the following rewards as now...
12 24 36 48 60

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Options are good.
This is just trash.

It's as bad as PL'ing to 50 in a day.
No, it really is.
Example:

Player 1.
Has played since BETA. Has earned every badge they own, has unlocked all the special bits from the events and has played through the game in full.

Player 2.
Has played for 3 months. Has all the kit. Is down about £/$ 100, but that's ok isn't it?

Seriously. Just stop. You're making my brain itch, and my trigger finger twitch.

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T.A.

Player 2.
Has bought the event costumes (via minipacks) - no badges or other special bit's / bonuses,
and earned one (1) pool 'C' Vet reward...

Not the same...

Could even say:
Player 3.
Level 50 and only ever used the AE!

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Some things are silly like no 45 month reward

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I'm sure I got a respec recently - or was that the 'no reward' part - seriously, I have 4 of them sitting there...

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T.A.

Player 2.
Has bought the event costumes (via minipacks) - no badges or other special bit's / bonuses,
and earned one (1) pool 'C' Vet reward...

Not the same...

Could even say:
Player 3.
Level 50 and only ever used the AE!

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Buying the event minipacks is still tosh, whichever way you wrap it up.

Its like one person going to an event, say, and getting a free souvenier for having showed up. It's meant to be special.

Then another person just goes and buys it on eBay or something, because 'its cool and they want it'. Which totally defeats the point.

The same can be said for veteran awards, because I sure as hell don't know what the other suggestion is. Pools? 3, 12, eleventy 5? English, please.

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T.A.

Player 2.
Has bought the event costumes (via minipacks) - no badges or other special bit's / bonuses,
and earned one (1) pool 'C' Vet reward...

Not the same...

Could even say:
Player 3.
Level 50 and only ever used the AE!

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Buying the event minipacks is still tosh, whichever way you wrap it up.

Its like one person going to an event, say, and getting a free souvenier for having showed up. It's meant to be special.

Then another person just goes and buys it on eBay or something, because 'its cool and they want it'. Which totally defeats the point.

The same can be said for veteran awards, because I sure as hell don't know what the other suggestion is. Pools? 3, 12, eleventy 5? English, please.

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Since I'm the only one who appears to be understanding this, let me try and explain. The rewards as they are now come every 3 months. What these rewards are is fixed. They come out in order.
Coolio is suggesting that every 3 months we get the choice of one of the rewards that are currently available, and, that in order for those who've been here longer and thus earned more rewards to still see some benefit, that instead of every Vet Reward being available to choose from after the first 3 months, that they be divided into 3 categories (hats, pools, leagues, divisions, conferences, tiers, buckets, tombola, whatever you want to call them), with one group being reserved for the rewards currently available at 12, 24, 36, 48 and 60 months, of which you'd be able to pick one reward from the choice of 5, for every year you played. Likewise the 2nd group would be comprised of those rewards you currently earn at the 6th, 18th, 30th, etc month, and you'd be able to choose from any one of those every other six months. The rest of the rewards would be open to choose from at 3months, and you'd get another at 9 month, another at 15, etc.

I'm actually not sure if Coolio was suggesting dividing the rewards up this specific way, but the principle is the same. Most wanted Vet Rewards, you'd get to pick one every 12 months, slightly more requested stuff, every 6months and less special stuff, every 3 months. You'd still get the same badges, and you'd still only get one reward package every 3 months, you'd just get the option of taking things that were more important to you slightly sooner in some cases.
Like I said upthread, I've never used the Greek letters symbols on a toon and don't foresee me doing so any time in the near future. Having the option to take shoulder capes or something instead would be good. As I say, I can see why people might disagree with the suggestion, but it isn't exactly making/letting people buy every piece of content available in-game now is it?


As for the special seasonal events costume pieces, I'd not be terribly bothered by it, I've earned most of the bits I want myself now, but probably would have shelled out a couple of quid to get furry boots for one of my toons when I started playing just over a year ago and found the perfect item to complete my look, and discovered it was only available during a 2 week event I'd just missed. Badges and other rewards are still there for folks to enjoy and show off with, and those who can wait for the events, and are willing to put the time in can get the same things for free. I see no problem with NC exploiting people's impatience for monetary gain so long as those things can still be gained in the normal way through playing the game and there is still some distinction between them.

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Ok, thanks for the explanation, Craggy. At least that actually made sense.

I admit, it would be sort of nice to allow for a bit of choice. Changing the Vet awards as to how they work is a huge no no, i.e. they can't be bought in a pack, only through months played, as is now. The problem with giving the players pools now would be the upset with the existing veterans. For example, I would love the Arachnos helmets instead of the Sprints, but if I suddenly got that and someone who had been playing since BETA didnt get the choice...well, uproar ensues.

As to the event things, again, they are supposed to be a bit special. Yes it would be nice if we had all the bits ti fit every concept (see my mauling of the Costume suggestion thread) but, sadly, I doubt it will happen.
Such are the whims of the devs.

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Thanks Craggy,
I'm an ideas person at heart and not really any good at explaining things non-technically...
You however have done an excelent translation of what I was trying to get over with my suggestions.

Techbot_Alpha:
Why not have all existing Veterans being given the option of having a vet reward respec?

At least that way everyone from Beta up could re-select their rewards if they wanted to, just like a costume change token is issued when new costumes become available.

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Thanks Craggy,
I'm an ideas person at heart and not really any good at explaining things non-technically...
You however have done an excelent translation of what I was trying to get over with my suggestions.

Techbot_Alpha:
Why not have all existing Veterans being given the option of having a vet reward respec?

At least that way everyone from Beta up could re-select their rewards if they wanted to, just like a costume change token is issued when new costumes become available.

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Because that totally defeats the whole point of Veteran Rewards.
They are meant to be something special. They've been set to be that way, so that the more you've played the more you unlock. Going back and diddling that chops a huge chunk out of the special factor.

I don't see any way the Devs will fiddle with it, tbh.

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Event Mini Packs, please!

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I can see where your going with this, Coolio but I can also see where Techbot_Alpha is going with this. While I myself would love a bit of choice so I could skip the rewards I don't want it would take the special factor out because sometimes people will keep playing to work towards those shinies in the distant future (Fairy pets etc) if all the bad stuff is left at the end people won't really be looking forward to it. There also would be uproar because the Veterans who worked for all that stuff then they see someone he's been playing nowhere near as long with the same things they would feel cheated.

Although the event packs may not be a bad idea (seeing as some people tend to miss them because of RL, myself included.) it would allow them to get the things they want from it. But again it would also take the special factor out of it.

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As described by Craggy, signed.

As it stands I don't care at all about vet rewards as all the stuff I want is so far off I'm sure the servers will be gone before I earn it.

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