They're Alive!!
You're a nutjob.
Call the men in white coats who will give you a nice padded cell.
Now.
Nah. Actually that's pretty normal. Richard, while being a fair bit like me, is not really all that much like me. For starters I don't talk anything like he does, and that's part of what helps me get in character with him. When I'm "thinking like Richard", I act in a completely different way to normal. To be honest, I'm more like Sam.
No, I never know what my characters will do - all it takes is the slightest thing to trigger a shift in their mood, no matter how I'm feeling - I've seen my characters go completely off the deep end while I've had the nicest, most fun and calming day, ever.
I have one character (I've NEVER RP'd him in CoH, thankfully), whose personality can effectively overwhelm my own, and while he's a lot of fun to play, I tend to get a bit serious IRL if I spend too much time in his head.
Now comes the awkward part - I am almost positive that the degree to which some of my characters can act without any conscious thought on my part is NOT healthy. Particularly that last one.
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Have you ever found that, during RP, your chars seem to do stuff that you would never ever ever, not in a zillion years, do yourself?
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That, really, goes without saying. If they don't then you're not roleplaying, you're playing yourself with superpowers (or spells, or a big sword, or whatever).
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Am I possessed? Am I going loopy? Am I possibly suffering from MPD?
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No. Yes. Probably.
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Doesn't anyone else ever experience this with their chars?
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Oh, of course. I think any reasonable roleplay 'suffers' from this. The only people who don't are the 'it's me with superpowers' crowd.
I'm not sure how you view roleplaying, but I see two basic styles: method actors and actors. Aisla, she's a method actor. She 'becomes' the character, so she tries to think the way the character does and uses that to react in a roleplay situation. Me, I'm an actor. If determine what my character is going to do based on what I know of their persoanlity and history, and then act accordingly.
I'm not sure which should be more susceptible to their characters running off and doing weird things, but, let's see...
Jason Caine talks so much better than I do it's insane. I've sat there looking at stuff he's said sometimes and think 'how the hell did I type that?' Of course, he's also far more sure of himself than I am. He actually can chat up women, I can't. etc.
Annette is another prime case in point. What's she doing with Libby? Velvet managed to go all that time with various girls throwing themselves at her, but she was into guys so, no luck. Annette was designed to be similar, but no, she ends up shacking up with Libby. What's that all about?
I recall an interview Anne MacCaffrey gave where she pointed outt hat she doesn't usually know what's going to happen in her stories until it does. She has a plot, but she can't guarantee that the characters are going to follow it, and as an author, I know I have the same kind of thing happen to some of my characters.
Now, to look at it from the other side, another author I saw interviewed was asked if his characters got away from him at times and his answer was, "no, they do as they're bloody well told."
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I've had entire campaigns do this to me let alone characters!
Really I find if I can't feel a character is writing themselves without too much help I usually can them! Even if some do run away occasionally, or hold views I'd actually find distasteful and still argue for them with actual heart too!
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or hold views I'd actually find distasteful and still argue for them with actual heart too!
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I do that IRL if I think someone hasn't considered all the possibilities, or just has a lousy argument. I'm not the Devil's Advocate, he's my trainee.
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or hold views I'd actually find distasteful and still argue for them with actual heart too!
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I do that IRL if I think someone hasn't considered all the possibilities, or just has a lousy argument. I'm not the Devil's Advocate, he's my trainee.
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Stop drawing all those pentagrams, Raven!
But yeah, its normal. I find that, sometimes, the RP just seems to fly. Its brilliant when it does, too =] It feels like you stepped into a comic book world...which is right and proper for a game about Heroes, right?
But yeah, your still insane
-welcomes FFM to the clinic-
GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.
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Have you ever found that, during RP, your chars seem to do stuff that you would never ever ever, not in a zillion years, do yourself? Do you ever find that, it doesn't matter WHAT you plan to do with them, they seem to end up doing something totally different and unexpected?
It's almost like they alive in they're own right.
I do... Especially with my long term character, Ellie. A lot of the time I don't have a CLUE what she's going to get up to from one day to the next. It all seems to come from some hidden part of my mind that the rest of me doesn't have ANY access too; and it's especially noticeable when writing fiction for her.
I almost never plan any of it, it just seems to flow from somewhere deep in my consciousness; kinda like the future painting thing in Heroes.
I am possessed, I have been loopy for years, my medication for MPD is now innefectual Doesn't anyone else ever experience this with their chars? Has anyone with actual training in these things ever actually done research on such a thing?
Or is this completely normal of RPers and I shouldn't worry about it?
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Twice in one day ive had to edit FFM's posts for reality and both on the subject of his questionable sanity
Sorry mate, but on a serious note I have to agree wholeheartedly, Scott (stryke) is - on occasion - a cocksure braggart with a penchant for voicing his thoughts waaay to loud, Dmitri (rockcrete) is a ball of contained anger yet with a cynical outlook on life.
I would say however that roleplay is on the whole a forum where you can express yourself in facets of your personality that you would normally either hide/deny/supress, especially if it is a character that you have created rather than given.
After all why would you create that character if you didnt have some desire to release that side of your persona that you would normally be mindful of?
Anyway thats my take on it, ill see you at the funny farm FFM
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I would say however that roleplay is on the whole a forum where you can express yourself in facets of your personality that you would normally either hide/deny/supress, especially if it is a character that you have created rather than given.
After all why would you create that character if you didnt have some desire to release that side of your persona that you would normally be mindful of?
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So... What you're saying is that, deep down, I actually want to be a cute lesbian catgirl with nearly godlike powers and a libido that just won't quit?
Oh dear...
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Plenty of times, yes. Worse yet is the number of times a small minor thing crops in and further along the line it has grown like a snowball and suddenly become a major well established thing that directs a character's path.
Then again I'm one of those who throws a bare bones skeleton of a theme together and throw the character into the grid while letting interaction with other characters flesh the idea.
Well, I'll freely admit that if I were to wake up a 19-year-old, stunningly gorgeous teenage girl with fantastic martial arts skills, I wouldn't exactly be thinking I got a bad deal, particularly if I got a blonde, superpowered girlfriend and buckets of money to go with it.
But then I am mad.
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Well, I'll freely admit that if I were to wake up a 19-year-old, stunningly gorgeous teenage girl with fantastic martial arts skills, I wouldn't exactly be thinking I got a bad deal, particularly if I got a blonde, superpowered girlfriend and buckets of money to go with it.
But then I am mad.
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I'd be a little girl or a killer robot.
There's no chance I'd get to be as pimp as anything inspired by Dr Doom...
Brawling Cactus from a distant planet.
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I would say however that roleplay is on the whole a forum where you can express yourself in facets of your personality that you would normally either hide/deny/supress, especially if it is a character that you have created rather than given.
After all why would you create that character if you didnt have some desire to release that side of your persona that you would normally be mindful of?
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So... What you're saying is that, deep down, I actually want to be a cute lesbian catgirl with nearly godlike powers and a libido that just won't quit?
Oh dear...
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Doesnt everyone? I know thats what I wanted to be when I grew up, (no courses at Uni for lesbian catwomen with nigh insatiable libido's though )
No seriously though I know what youre driving at FFM, I was referring to the talk on character attitudes rather than the outlandish general personas (if they can be separated) I mean take Dmitri for example if thats the case I have desires to be a trained spec ops killer with no remorse and a penchant for overzealous use of violence all in the name of "a good fight" and yet be very calm and at peace about it all when not in those moments....
However I meant about his general rationale, I do have a short temper though... a side I do not like about me, but not that I can ever express it in the way you can with a fictional avatar...ergo expressing these fantastical elements in an RP environment is a kind of cathartic release.
I hope I made a point and it wasnt some rambling mess, if so I belong in the funny farm with FFM
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A while ago, someone interviewed Tarantino about writing the infamous ear-cutting scene in Reservoir Dogs. According to him, he had no idea what Mr Blonde was going to do, it just happened. Now a lot of people I know who saw the interview reacted derisively, claiming he was talking complete dingoes kidneys. But I knew exactly what he meant. Once characters get established, they form mannerisms of their own. For me, I get an idea of how they talk, what their voice sounds like in my head. From that point on, they talk freely, and when writing sometimes the words just flow out uncontrollably.
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FFM; What you are experiencing is perfectly normal. I regularly experience what you describe, and rarely know in advance where roleplay will go once I've stepped into character.
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I do have a short temper though... a side I do not like about me, but not that I can ever express it in the way you can with a fictional avatar...ergo expressing these fantastical elements in an RP environment is a kind of cathartic release.
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You can, very much, take that too far, however. It's very much worth watching. You can end up with everyone else hating your guts while you think it's a fantastic game that lets you sort your head out.
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I do have a short temper though... a side I do not like about me, but not that I can ever express it in the way you can with a fictional avatar...ergo expressing these fantastical elements in an RP environment is a kind of cathartic release.
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You can, very much, take that too far, however. It's very much worth watching. You can end up with everyone else hating your guts while you think it's a fantastic game that lets you sort your head out.
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I do agree raven but what I was referring to was the fact that with a toon you have a way of expressing yourself in a way that would get wild eyes responses IRL, by no means with that statement you quoted am i saying that I will end up a raving madman spitting venom at every passer by, I meant it solely as a comment that related to that toon in particular (whom I might add only lets that side out in battle, post fight he is a very calm - if a little cynical - character)
So I hope that statement didnt leave an impression of me wishing to plough round GG threatening all and sundry and ranting like Jeremy Kyle on acid, that just isnt me the short temper side was just a reference.
I am a nice guy really........honest guv
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Jeremy Kyle on acid
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Now that is an awesome char concept.
Brawling Cactus from a distant planet.
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Jeremy Kyle on acid
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Now that is an awesome char concept.
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Would have to be a villain though, maybe an MM thugs/poison.
Gets to spit venomous garbage at ne'r do wells with his army of chav audiences while thinking the only solution to everyones problems is "get a job!"
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I'm a little bit actor, a little bit method actor, and a lot of the things about my characters come from a little known recess in my mind.
Let's take Cindersnap. I rolled him out of need for wanting a Fire/Fire blaster, came up with a costume, set him loose in PD. He started talkng to someone, bam, his backstory of being a troubled teen arrested and put on a rehabilitation scheme came out of nowhere.
He made friends, enemies, friends into enemies, enemies into friends, and soon I noticed the oddest thing happening. The character was chatting away with girls happily and flirting, but when it came to trying to flirt with them or getting interest, there was none. And he was rather interested in his male friends too. He got set up on a date, went home with her, then she just asked him if he was [censored].
He was shocked at first, thought about it, then came to the same agreement. Came out to his friends a while later (having talked it over with a Traditionalist Rikti in a rather fun story), made friends with some other heroes including Crimson Archer, who after having people tell him not to fall for the guy and keeping on wondering why, eventually did fall for him, and then things happened and he realised it was just a crush, fell for a guy his age who was a liberal Christian, took on students of his own, and things went from there.
I can try and sit down and plan a character out and thrash out his life story, but sometimes? Going with the flow and just chucking myself into RP works as well, and letting my characters hit the ground and start running.
Boring work also means I switch off my mind and let my charactesr interact. That's how I keep so many alts histories and activities up to date. Just getting them out of my head onto figurative paper is the tough part.
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Going with the flow and just chucking myself into RP works as well, and letting my characters hit the ground and start running.
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This is how all my characters start out. Construct basic set of operating parameters (is an 8000 year old immortal, must not be angsty) drop into RP situation, make stuff up as I go along.
Your comment about Cindersnap really fits perfectly with how Annette turned out, in a way. I still don't actually understand how she ended up with Libby. She keeps saying she's not a lesbian, and from the way she reacts to Richard, I think she's right, but then she doesn't get the same buzz off Jon. She does kind of get it from Cindersnap, though it's way more complicated with him. I'm starting to think she's actually asexual. She has intense relationships with people she likes, doesn't matter what they are, and everyone else is just a friend or a person (or a target).
And have you got a link for that Cindersnap story?
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Ooooh, give me a moment... I think it's somewhere among the Unity Tower thread...
Aha!
http://uk.boards.cityofheroes.com/sh...age=1&vc=1
Also, something for you to look at Ravenswing considering Annette: http://www.asexuality.org/wiki/index...tle=Demisexual
Thank you, that and the linked pages were most interesting. I don't think she fits that model exactly, but it's something like that. A hemi-demisexual, perhaps.
And cute story.
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Funy, you've put to words how I feel about Lea but it had never really coalesced into an actual feeling, just something I went along with. Gender, shape, even age (Kumi, big crush on Red that has dwindled since months later he's still steadfastly attached to Hana) are details along the way.
I don't want to turn this into a discussion of character sexuality, but nailing down what makes Ni tick is becoming rather fascinating. I'd recommend that Wikipedia link Z supplied, but Ni's more complicated than the simple definitions given there, which, I guess, is pretty normal. People are normally more complicated than anyone gives them credit for.
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Have you ever found that, during RP, your chars seem to do stuff that you would never ever ever, not in a zillion years, do yourself? Do you ever find that, it doesn't matter WHAT you plan to do with them, they seem to end up doing something totally different and unexpected?
It's almost like they alive in they're own right.
I do... Especially with my long term character, Ellie. A lot of the time I don't have a CLUE what she's going to get up to from one day to the next. It all seems to come from some hidden part of my mind that the rest of me doesn't have ANY access too; and it's especially noticeable when writing fiction for her.
I almost never plan any of it, it just seems to flow from somewhere deep in my consciousness; kinda like the future painting thing in Heroes.
Am I possessed? Am I going loopy? Am I possibly suffering from MPD? Doesn't anyone else ever experience this with their chars? Has anyone with actual training in these things ever actually done research on such a thing?
Or is this completely normal of RPers and I shouldn't worry about it?
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Rage, rage against the dying of the light.