Correct me if I'm wrong here but I thought in previous years you couldn't ToT in zones that you out leveled, so therefore you couldn't release lvl 50 werewolves in Atlas Park for example.
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Correct me if I'm wrong here but I thought in previous years you couldn't ToT in zones that you out leveled, so therefore you couldn't release lvl 50 werewolves in Atlas Park for example.
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He was level 20 in Steel. Obviously Steel runs at least up to level 20.
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Correct me if I'm wrong here but I thought in previous years you couldn't ToT in zones that you out leveled, so therefore you couldn't release lvl 50 werewolves in Atlas Park for example.
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That's true, but unfortunately a lot of zones have a wide spread of level ranges. Steel Canyon, for instance, where you could have Vox's 10 level difference. And at level 10, a level 20 mob might as well be a 50.
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MA has started a thread very similar to this here.
Ghostraptor and others have mentioned petitioning this and screenshots help too. It is a pain though that in zones like Steel Canyon this can happen due to the wide level gap 
Easy fix. Give door mobs the same aggro control as ambushes; they only aggro on the team that clicks the door, unless you attack them. Add a bit of Clockwork pursuit code, and Robert is your mum's brother.
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MA has started a thread very similar to this here.
Ghostraptor and others have mentioned petitioning this and screenshots help too. It is a pain though that in zones like Steel Canyon this can happen due to the wide level gap
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Yeah, I saw that thread, I probably should have posted it there but I was too annoyed to think properly. Sorry guys.
I think I'm going to just give the rest of the Halloween event a miss, I'd been away from the game for about a month and I'd just started enjoying playing again and now I've gone back to feeling jaded. Don't want to log back in.
Yeah I know, toys out of pram and all that.
I'm getting Fable 2 so I'd probably not be on much anyway.
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Easy fix. Give door mobs the same aggro control as ambushes; they only aggro on the team that clicks the door, unless you attack them. Add a bit of Clockwork pursuit code, and Robert is your mum's brother.
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and/or give them the Rikti invasion troops behaviour, so they always con white whatever your level.
i had that with a lvl 27, really not fun.
i do have to say that i'm running my self after a trik, but not close to other ppl and i run to secure places where they can be zapped.
ToT in another zone then one that does not go up to lvl 20 why not try your own lvl range zone like skyway?
Steel Canyon IS our own level range zone. It's also the same level range zone as Skyway City is.
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ToT in another zone then one that does not go up to lvl 20 why not try your own lvl range zone like skyway?
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What Morgana said.
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ToT in another zone then one that does not go up to lvl 20 why not try your own lvl range zone like skyway?
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What Morgana said.
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Thought it would be clear if you go into a zone with a much higher lvl range than what you are go to a lower lvl zone its easy.
Also im sure unless you attack the mob in question they will leave you alone and carry on after the player who spawned them so you must have attacked.
Not saying what was done was right but it will happen some are like at lest in a lower lvl zone you wont have the risk of higher lvl mobs left behind
Levels 10 and 12 is also valid to ToT in Hollows, so if he continues to harrass you, you could also go there where he would be unable to do it, It would also place you in the top range of the zone so no one else can do it to you. There are plenty of doors in quiet corners of the hollows to play with 
Why should we have to?
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ToT in another zone then one that does not go up to lvl 20 why not try your own lvl range zone like skyway?
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What Morgana said.
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Thought it would be clear if you go into a zone with a much higher lvl range than what you are go to a lower lvl zone its easy.
Also im sure unless you attack the mob in question they will leave you alone and carry on after the player who spawned them so you must have attacked.
Not saying what was done was right but it will happen some are like at lest in a lower lvl zone you wont have the risk of higher lvl mobs left behind
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The guy ran up to the door and sped away as soon as he'd clicked on it, the mobs just went after us. I don't know if that's because he'd already gone way out of their range and we were the nearest or whatever, but it's happened to other people so, whatever.
Why should I have to stay out of a zone because of one guy who is breaking the rules?
If the Devs followed your way of thinking then every exploiter and griefer would just get away with exploting and griefing.
We were fine and happy until this [censored] came along and spoiled it.
The devs were told last year about the griefers and they've done barely anything to fix it and it's soured the event for me.
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Solutions aside I do think that something needs to be done about those people who want to spoil the fun for others.
An event should be fun...not another way to harass people.
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Not saying you have too. But if he is bugging you that much you have more options than coming on here and moaning about him where he can see how much he has bugged you.
I mean the options are
a) petition him and move to another zone where he cant do this too you.
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b) Petition him and then come on the forums and moan about it, showing him he has ruined your gaming experience.
I dont know what you want people to say. We all know it is bad but it happens and you either get on with it or come and moan. I see it you could have got on with it but you both seem to want to make an issue of this.
As I have said before there is nothing in the game mechanics stopping this and there is certaintly no game rule they are breaking by click and running. The only rule they have broken is harrassment then you have done everything within your power to stop that by sending the petition.
Tuarus, if you start a post saying "Not saying you have to", it's probably best not to continue it by saying (paraphrasing) "but if you don't you're just moaning and making an issue of it". 
The idea that if someone's being griefed they shouldn't post about the underlying issue if they could go out of their way to avoid it is, honestly, a bit silly.
Discussing the issue on forums is not a bad thing. Talking about things is what forums are for. And Vox - and FFM, and Standoff - made constructive points as to changes to the game mechanics that could alleviate the problem. I wouldn't really consider that just moaning.
It is when there is already another thread about this subject. That would be entitled Grandville Idiots. And IMS GhostRaptor has told people what to do in there.
No. It doesn't magically become moaning because it's in one thread instead of another. That's just 'not noticing the other thread'.
And GhostRaptor's post in that thread consisted of the word 'precisely' relating to petitioning harrassment. Petitioning is not an alternative to discussing issues on the forum. It is a separate thing.
There is no need to label people as moaners just because they point out that being able to avoid griefing doesn't make it a non-issue. It's not constructive in the slightest.
Ummm think my post was more designed to point out that it may be annoying but isnt the end of the world. As I stated there were other zones available and at least 1 (there is also Perez) where the offender would have been unable to continue the harrasment.
It is one thing being a victim it is another thing continually allowing yourself to be a victim. My anger at the thread is the replys of why should we, which can be equally applied to people that are running and clicking. The only thing that differs is the harrasment element that the other player was causing. If you fail to make any attempt to stop someone griefing you then you deserve what you get in my book.
And the point of raising this thread is what? To inform us that there is people that cause grief and harrass other players. We all know that? That the ToT event has a flaw that is exploitable by griefers? Again we and the devs know that.
If the thread was along the lines of OMG just been griefed ToTing in Steel. Does anyone have any suggestions of how to stop this? Then I would take a better veiw of the thread, but it just seems to have been created as a poor us thread please lay sympathy on us, as valid suggestions have been made of how to not let this occur to them again by myself and others and they have been greated with replies of why should we. Well if you dont like it or someone is being griefed there is no there is no other way to stop this other than petitioning atm and then either logging (griefer wins) or moving to another zone.
Edit: Have just re-read the origional post and suggestions were made to combat this and I apologise for that, but still there are other options open. When an event is re-run and you have no interest in the badges/playing a toon that cant deal with the spawns (Pure Emp - my main) then suppressing Travel Powers will kill the likes of us or force us into a ToTing team which reduces the speed at which you can get the treats which if all your after is the cossies is not good, and if I was stopped from running away from doors I have clicked it would then ruin the event for myself and others. When trying to deal with griefers it is not the action of running away that is the problem it is the actions of the griefers opening doors in front of lower level toons and/or pulling mobs to the low level toons, and the only fair way to deal with those is to petition and allow the Mods to deal with in an appropiate way.
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It is when there is already another thread about this subject. That would be entitled Grandville Idiots. And IMS GhostRaptor has told people what to do in there.
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I erroneously thought the other thread was specifically a complaint against Grandville griefers. I started this one as a general post about it and to post a suggestion on how to cut it out. I have no problem with it being merged, as long as at least one of the suggestions is taken into account and the devs do something about this for next year.
That one incident though was enough to sour the whole experience for me so I don't really feel like taking part in the event anymore. Make of that what you will.
I just don't know WHY some people have to be so horrible.
On the flip side, Mother's Love came down to those two same characters earlier in the evening and healed us both, which was really nice.
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Ummm think my post was more designed to point out that it may be annoying but isnt the end of the world. As I stated there were other zones available and at least 1 (there is also Perez) where the offender would have been unable to continue the harrasment.
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It happened once, that was enough for me, I didn't 'continue being a victim', I logged out because it annoyed me so much.
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It is one thing being a victim it is another thing continually allowing yourself to be a victim. My anger at the thread is the replys of why should we, which can be equally applied to people that are running and clicking. The only thing that differs is the harrasment element that the other player was causing. If you fail to make any attempt to stop someone griefing you then you deserve what you get in my book.
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Well funnily enough I petitioned them and have suggested a way that will stop them from griefing, I didn't just run away and ignore the problem, like you obviously would have done.
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And the point of raising this thread is what? To inform us that there is people that cause grief and harrass other players. We all know that? That the ToT event has a flaw that is exploitable by griefers? Again we and the devs know that.
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Yes, they know that but they haven't taken enough action to STOP it. It happened last year and the changes they've made haven't worked, so obviously they need to know that they need to do more.
I didn't have to make this thread? YOU didn't have to reply to it.
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If the thread was along the lines of OMG just been griefed ToTing in Steel. Does anyone have any suggestions of how to stop this? Then I would take a better veiw of the thread, but it just seems to have been created as a poor us thread please lay sympathy on us, as valid suggestions have been made of how to not let this occur to them again by myself and others and they have been greated with replies of why should we. Well if you dont like it or someone is being griefed there is no there is no other way to stop this other than petitioning atm and then either logging (griefer wins) or moving to another zone.
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This is not a thread asking for sympathy and I find it incredibly offensive that you'd think so, ESPECIALLY considering all the posts YOU made complaining about the lack of players and suggesting a server merge.
The only solution to this problem is to stop the griefers from being able to do what they're doing, not to let them get away with it.
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NO!
Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, WRONG.
Sorry, I was there for the "Arena Confuse" grief on the RP meet at Galaxy Girl, and what you're saying is that a dozen people should MOVE because ONE idiot decided it would be 'funny' to grief them? NO!
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It would be if you continued to stand there whilst they did it again. It was a specific exploit that has now been dealt with. But the first time it happened it was unexpected but surly you were on ur toes after it, and should have been more careful until the exploit was cleared.
This is still a totally different thing to what is origonally being discussed.
Okay something really needs to be changed with the Halloween spawns. Just had a level 20 with SS run up to the door Morgana and I were stood outside on our level 10 and 12 respectively and click it causing a purple werewolf to run out and kill me.
He then tried dragging the mobs over to Morgana's character in order to get her killed.
I've petitioned him for griefing but I'm seriously [censored] off that this can happen. Next time this is run the devs NEED to make it so people cannot run from their mobs. Someone like that needs to be made to stay at the door and take care of his trick.
MAKE it so that travel powers are surpressed when you click and after a second you're stuck and can't run away. Or make it so that someone who cllicks a door and who either doesn't die to their mob or doesn't finish off their mob loses inf or xp or SOMETHING so that they stop doing this stupid [censored].
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