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Can I be the first to say 'Huh?'
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Beat me to it
What you talking about sucker?
Quit your jibber jabber fool.....
:s
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Leaping is one set category whereas Jumping is another.
[/ QUOTE ]That's just simply wrong, there's only one set category for jump sets.
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Leaping is one set category whereas Jumping is another.
[/ QUOTE ]That's just simply wrong, there's only one set category for jump sets.
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Check it out. I'm right.
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I have, and you're not. The set category is referred to as leaping in both powers and the recipes themselves, as well as the auction house UI.
I'll just take another look...
"Springfoot: Jump" enhancement set category : Leaping
"Unbounded Leap: Jump" enhancement set category : Leaping
Hurdle: allowed enhancements : Enhance Jump
Super Jump: allowed enhancements : Enhance Jump, set categoy: Leaping.
...okay, my issue is that you can't put set enhancements into Hurdle. Sorry for wasting your time, folks.
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It doesn't accept sets, no. The sets are called 'leaping', the value is called 'jump speed/height'
not exactly the most technical of jargon
The whole Jumping Power pool is called Leaping.
Jumping=Leaping
Hurdle=/=Leaping but it takes Jump IOs
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The whole Jumping Power pool is called Leaping.
Jumping=Leaping
Hurdle=/=Leaping but it takes Jump IOs
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I am guessing (please correct me if I'm wrong), but Hurdle doesnt accept leaping Set IOs, as the +stealth IO would make it perma. A touch broken (considering the other slotting options all have an end cost)
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I am guessing (please correct me if I'm wrong), but Hurdle doesnt accept leaping Set IOs, as the +stealth IO would make it perma.
[/ QUOTE ]Correct. Same for swift, quickness, mental training and all other passive movement speed increasers.
They used to accept sets, but it was changed some time after I9 went live.
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The whole Jumping Power pool is called Leaping.
Jumping=Leaping
Hurdle=/=Leaping but it takes Jump IOs
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I am guessing (please correct me if I'm wrong), but Hurdle doesnt accept leaping Set IOs, as the +stealth IO would make it perma. A touch broken (considering the other slotting options all have an end cost)
[/ QUOTE ]The minute cost of toggling sprint or CJ on once every 2 mins, or just before you need stealth? Oh woe is me, my end bar will suffer! It's more that people would slot the IO in the passives and then not like being ghostly all the time. Or something like that.
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The whole Jumping Power pool is called Leaping.
Jumping=Leaping
Hurdle=/=Leaping but it takes Jump IOs
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I am guessing (please correct me if I'm wrong), but Hurdle doesnt accept leaping Set IOs, as the +stealth IO would make it perma. A touch broken (considering the other slotting options all have an end cost)
[/ QUOTE ]The minute cost of toggling sprint or CJ on once every 2 mins, or just before you need stealth? Oh woe is me, my end bar will suffer! It's more that people would slot the IO in the passives and then not like being ghostly all the time. Or something like that.
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You still have to remember to toggle it. It's the principle of the matter _spirit. No end vs Some end. But ta for the aggression.
Imagine if i had said 'if you slot it into a passive you are ghosty foreva lol'...MaX would have torn me to shreds
You can't slot sets into Hurdle because Castle wouldn't listen to me when I told him that Stealth IOs in autopowers where broken, and his proposed solution would only cause a lot more problems.
When I was proved right his only option was to remove the ability to slot sets in movement autopowers.
I really should do something about this signature.
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When I was proved right his only option was to remove the ability to slot sets in movement autopowers.
[/ QUOTE ]And implement stealth suppression for hostages at the same time, which still doesn't actually work properly.
Wouldnt it have been much easier to fix it by giving all the hostages similar ability to ignore stealth as rikti drones? :S
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Nope, because the (non-combat) hostages aren't "entities". They can't be given any abilities at all.
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I thought if you put a Stealth IO into a toggle power that it lasts up to 2mins after the toggle is deactivated, so you dont have to keep on switching it on and off. Thats how it works on my toon anyway and I have it slotted in CJ
So it is virtually permanent anyway, as you would have recovered enough End in two mins to reactive the toggle
Edit - I just reread and realised that I still missed the point if you could slot it in a passive it would be permanent without enduracne cost.
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As far as I know, the answer to Hurdle being slotted for Set Jumping IO's is simply, 'no'. Same goes for Swift if I wanted Flight Speed or Run Speed, I wouldn't be able to get Set ones. I'm pretty sure it is because in some of these sets there is like a +Stealth invloved, especially in 'Freebird'. You couldn't put that into an auto because, like someone said, hostage situations would be disastrous, and you couldn't take the stealth off unless you got rid of the IO. So if in a Set you couldn't have a particular IO, then it would be particularly awkward to have any of the others, it would deny people of their wanted Set Bonuses if you say, needed this Stealth IO. So, thats why it isn't allowed.
Because SJ and Fly are toggles, you can have it on them. Obviously, thats what it was made for. The lucky thing is, and I know this after about a month or two's study of the Invention system, that these Stealth grants would cost no Endurance at all. Just that they probably wouldnt be as effective as a normal Stealth, not so sure..
Leaping is one set category whereas Jumping is another. Why?
It's extremely confusing when choosing enhancements to see an invention such as "Unbounded Leap: JUMP" which doesn't enhance JUMP, it enhances LEAPING.
Surely there wouldn't be any exploitation if these were merged into one category : Leap OR jump?
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